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LKelley67 08-22-2006 10:22 PM

Fresh Stallworth Trade Talk
 
This horse has been beaten a lot. The Duckett/Lelie/3rd trade made me think about it afresh though. Lelie very similar to Stallworth in performance and with the same contract status. That said, who do you think would be fair trade value for Donte? It doesn't have to be anyone that is available, just fair. A trade you think would actually benefit both teams with even value exchanged. Don't forget the contract status element as in the Den/Atl?Wash deal. Lemme peruse some rosters 'n see...

LKelley67 08-22-2006 10:51 PM

Okay, my nominees are-

Eagles: #1 WR is 2nd yr Reggie Brown, ouch. #2 is rookie Hank Baskett UDFA. Next, injured Todd Pinkston. They need help there.
Roderick Hood CB and Max Jean Giles OG. Hood might start here. I haven't heard camp buzz but I liked Giles in the draft. Add another young lineman with lotsa upside. Probably more game ready than Strief or Evans. I'd even thrown in Jason Craft to get him out of town.
Deals have been done with Philly too, so there is some repoire between the FOs.

Bears: Can anyone name who starts across from Muhammed? Stall would be the perfect complement.
The Bears #4 CB would probably start here. Tillman is entrenched. Vasher is ProBowl but complained loudly for a renegotiation and didn't get it. He is the 131st highest paid CB. I'd sacrifice more than Donte for him with an extension agreed to. I'd even take the former Panther Ricky Manning or the rookie Danieal Manning.

San Diego: McCardell is 36, nuff said.
You know who here. For DS I would want a little more though. SD add a second day draft pick.

Who else is out there that would make sense?

LKelley67 08-24-2006 07:27 AM

this horse has more life I tell ya...

"Do the Vikings need to find somebody? Yeah," Salisbury said. "Does that mean you go out and try to get Jerry Porter, Donte Stallworth, Ashley Lelie? They've got to look... .We were still not even sure this year if Koren Robinson at the wide receiver position could take over a game."

Lelie was traded Tuesday night from Denver to Atlanta and Oakland has effectively taken Porter off the market with its asking price of at least a No. 1 draft choice. That leaves New Orleans' Stallworth the best of the reportedly available receivers.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...l/15336638.htm

yesterday

wheelman 08-24-2006 10:30 AM

Give us one of those corners, and I'll be happy with that trade.

wheelman 08-24-2006 12:18 PM

I just thought of something! New England is in serious need of a wide receiver. Try to trade Stallworth to them in exchange for their nose tackle, Wilford. I know everyone (including me) loves Will Smith, but I have always felt that the Saints should have drafted Wilford instead.

saintswhodi 08-24-2006 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelman
I just thought of something! New England is in serious need of a wide receiver. Try to trade Stallworth to them in exchange for their nose tackle, Wilford. I know everyone (including me) loves Will Smith, but I have always felt that the Saints should have drafted Wilford instead.

Do you mean Vince Wilfork? That dude is a stud. I doubt NE parts with him. Although they do have sullivan now. :wink:

wheelman 08-24-2006 12:44 PM

Maybe we could get him if we packaged a fourth round pick with Stall. :jester:

hagan714 08-24-2006 08:07 PM

Vince no way. the fans here will kill.

NEXTPROBOWLER 08-25-2006 05:31 PM

if anything pats trade branch for joey porter, that way the solve that issue, wilfork is a monster that will never wear black and gold, im a realist lol

LSUJeremy 08-25-2006 05:45 PM

Branch for Stallworth?

leilung 08-25-2006 06:19 PM

Can anyone enlighten my ignorant Jersey arse?

Why is everyone so down on Stallworth? Seriously?

biloxi-indian 08-25-2006 06:29 PM

Just a guess...this is the last year of his contract, malcontent, and was forever injured during his first few years and could not break into the starting lineup.

Like LeCharles, why give up a player for NOTHING...especially when the Saints have WR's that can catch and absent of glass knees, are healthy and want to PLAY. IMHO

D24pick 08-25-2006 08:24 PM

Stall for Hood and 5th

Good trade, and the guy at OG for the Eagles is no where near as good as Evans

Hopefully the Pats don't sign Branch and we get em, then trade Stall

LKelley67 08-25-2006 09:48 PM

I don't think there are many people that are actually down on Stallworth. It just seems from all indications that the new coaching staff is definitely not enamored with him. He is gonna be gone after this year. So rather than another disappearance for nothing ala Howard or Bentley, get something for him that will be of value beyond this season only.

I think the NE idea is great. No way they will let Wilfork go though. I think Branch would be great IF they would sign him to an extension. HE might be a player they think such good things about to make that investment in.

Just don't let him go for nothing. He has to go now to get that payoff. Javon Walker went for a 2nd , Lelie for a conditional (in essence) that will probably be a 3rd and 4th. I'd be happy with a 3rd at this point to an AFC team preferably.

That begs, if he is worth a 3rd, why not offer him to SD for Edwards who are asking a 2nd and the Saints offering a 4th, as a compromise. Maybe get them to throw in a second day pick with Edwards. It sure looks like they could use some young legs there.

D24pick 08-25-2006 10:49 PM

I like em, just that we need D

LKelley67 08-27-2006 10:16 PM

we were ahead of the curve...

Per Adam Schefter of the NFL Network, the Saints are interested in obtaining Deion Branch

hagan714 08-27-2006 10:19 PM

well that would be sweet but i am not holding my breath.

LKelley67 08-27-2006 10:45 PM

According to the Boston Herald, "As of last week, the Patriots had $12.2 million in cap space, according to league management council figures. Only two NFL teams - Jacksonville and New Orleans - had more."

Insight: If the Patriots don't find a way to sign Deion Branch, and find themselves short-handed at the wide out position, which in my opinion they already are - proof in the pudding were Ben Watson's numbers on Saturday night -- they shouldn't rest on their success of three Super Bowls in six seasons and pocket the 12 large, if they do and fail this season -- they will have no one to blame but themselves, pointing a finger-> the front office and Kraft. While I believe Branch is asking for too much money -- he couldn't have picked a better time to play hardball -- The Patriots are hurting for top quality receivers, and healthy rookies. (TonyFinn/PFS)

If the Pats can bite on Donte it would make sense. Get a guy you do wan to sign longterm. Pats could extend Donte much cheaper than the Reggie Wayne money Branch wants.

hagan714 08-27-2006 11:10 PM

branch did not shoot down the offer he was concerned that the offer was to kick in after this year. he wants a redone contract not an extention. so the sides are not that far apart. after they get an idea what kind of money he is offered they can put incentives into the contract that he can easly meet. A trade is based on new contract money. he does not want to play for the money he is schedualed to get. he should have thought of that when he signed. sure he didn't think about it cashing the first years of his contract.
believe me it is all the talk at the pubs up here.

saintsrule 08-28-2006 12:32 AM

I hope they keep Donte', Devery, and and Colston can play together for the next few years, and get better.

LKelley67 08-28-2006 07:34 AM

We can hope all we want but unless Donte gets extended before this season he will A)have a poor year and not be wanted or B)have a good year and be overpriced for New Orleans.

I've said it many times, I want him to stay but I would rather get a 3rd round pick than see another marketable player walk away with zero investment return.


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