LKelley67

'03 first-round pick may not last the weekend

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....ears-headlines

how bout a scouting report hagan?

hagan714

oh god now you want the bubble players too. i feel so used.
PRO CAREER: Former first-round draft choice has developed into a versatile member of Chicago's defensive line rotation, contributing at the end and tackle positions& Has participated in 43 of 48 regular season games during his career, starting 4, while totaling 89 tackles with 5.5 sacks and 10 TFLs& Ranked 3rd on Bears D-line from 2003-04 with 72 tackles while adding 4 sacks... Contributed to team-record 6 defensive TDs in 2004 by tallying his first career TD with a 45-yard return of his first career INT... Ranked among team leaders in sacks in 2003 while being among 3 rookies to participate in all 16 games& Among 11 players from Chicago's impressive 2003 draft class that made the team's active roster out of training camp.
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http://www.chicagobears.com/team/tea...ils.jsp?id=345

2003 draft review
Notes: Father was in the military, and Haynes grew up in Panama, where he played soccer, volleyball and prep football. Redshirted as a fullback in 1998. Moved to the defensive line and backed up Courtney Brown at end in '99. Shared time and started two games in 2000. Started all but one game in '01 and led the team in sacks, but all it took was four. Had six tackles, one tackle for loss and half a sack in '99; 31-7-6 in 2000; and 41-11-4 in '01. Started all 13 games in '02, recording 80-23-15 with four passes broken up, one fumble recovery and seven forced fumbles.

Positives: Great quickness and movement rushing the passer. Good athletic ability and can shed on the move. Natural rusher. Above-average athlete with good movement skills. Flashes pass-rush ability. Has enough speed and playmaking ability. Makes plays.

Negatives: Does not have great power to beat first move and is not that fast. Has to improve at the point of attack against the run. Footwork improved in the last year-plus, but can get better. Lacks rare closing speed. Knows how to find the ball but could be better anticipating and adjusting.

Summary: Haynes' stock went up during his senior season and spiked further at the Senior Bowl. Has a chance to be a top-15 pick but has certain first-round talent.

* Player biographies are provided by Pro Football Weekly
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/t...player?id=6814

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

hagan714

looking it up was sick-en- ing. review of the 2003 sully draft. i think we should all mull that one over again. And think hard on the picks we have next year and how we us them.

PK(OVR) TEAM NAME POS SCHOOL
1(1) Cincinnati CARSON PALMER QB USC
2(2) Detroit CHARLES ROGERS WR MICHIGAN STATE
3(3) Houston ANDRE JOHNSON WR MIAMI (FLA.)
4(4) NY Jets (from Chicago) DEWAYNE ROBERTSON DT KENTUCKY
5(5) Dallas TERENCE NEWMAN CB KANSAS STATE
6(6) New Orleans (from Arizona) JOHNATHAN SULLIVAN DT GEORGIA
7(7) Jacksonville BYRON LEFTWICH QB MARSHALL
8(8) Carolina JORDAN GROSS OT UTAH
9(9) Minnesota (passed on 7 and 8) KEVIN WILLIAMS DT OKLAHOMA STATE
10(10) Baltimore TERRELL SUGGS DE ARIZONA STATE
11(11) Seattle MARCUS TRUFANT CB WASHINGTON STATE
12(12) St. Louis JIMMY KENNEDY DT PENN STATE
13(13) New England (from Washington through N.Y. Jets and Chicago) TY WARREN DT TEXAS A&M
14(14) Chicago (from Buffalo through New England) MICHAEL HAYNES DE PENN STATE
15(15) Philadelphia (from San Diego) JEROME MCDOUGLE DE MIAMI (FLA.)
16(16) Pittsburgh (from Kansas City) TROY POLAMALU SS USC
17(17) Arizona (from New Orleans) BRYANT JOHNSON WR PENN STATE
18(18) Arizona (from Miami through New Orleans) CALVIN PACE DE WAKE FOREST
19(19) Baltimore (from New England) KYLE BOLLER QB CALIFORNIA
20(20) Denver GEORGE FOSTER OT GEORGIA
21(21) Cleveland JEFF FAINE C NOTRE DAME
22(22) Chicago (from N.Y. Jets) REX GROSSMAN QB FLORIDA
23(23) Buffalo (from Atlanta) WILLIS MCGAHEE RB MIAMI (FLA.)
24(24) Indianapolis DALLAS CLARK TE IOWA
25(25) NY Giants WILLIAM JOSEPH DT MIAMI (FLA.)
26(26) San Francisco KWAME HARRIS OT STANFORD
27(27) Kansas City (from Pittsburgh) LARRY JOHNSON RB PENN STATE
28(28) Tennessee ANDRE WOOLFOLK CB OKLAHOMA
29(29) Green Bay NICK BARNETT OLB OREGON STATE
30(30) San Diego (from Philadelphia) SAMMY DAVIS CB TEXAS A&M
31(31) Oakland NNAMDI ASOMUGHA CB CALIFORNIA
32(32) Oakland (from Tampa Bay) TYLER BRAYTON DE COLORADO

with some crative trades and well better scouting there was a few players in the round that might still be playing for us. I wont even bring up the rest of the rounds.
5(37) New Orleans (from Arizona) JON STINCHCOMB OT GEORGIA
22(54) Arizona (from New Orleans) ANQUAN BOLDIN WR FLORIDA STATE
third round went to NE for old whats his name?

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

LKelley67

good job, i do appreciate it.

in '03 everyone thought we were moving up to get Trufant. even that would have been wonderful compared to a big bust. Even with the picks traded we coulda had LB Nick Barnett and OT George Foster.

Blunders that bad cost a franchise years of development. A first rounder being a journeyman hole filler is one thing, being a wretched fried chicken gut filler is another.

LKelley67

just getting this haynes info back up for everytone to see

BlackandBlue

how bout a beer hagan?