this pisses me off.....

Tobias-Reiper · 09-14-2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

We also have to consider that the preseason projections from our projection system don't always agree with conventional wisdom or even the personal opinions of the Football Outsiders staff, including myself ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â particularly when it comes to Oakland. Nonetheless, our projection system is the most accurate available, picking more playoff teams over the last two years than any other.

It's called a preface. They are letting you know ahead of time, the rankings you see are not weighted on normal Team A beat Team B criteria week by week. I mean damn, you'd think we just beat the Steelers. We barely beat the freaking Browns. With our schedule, we may very well be the last team in the league come the end of the season, which is how they are PROJECTING their rankings, not gut shot reactions to week by week performance. Lighten up. It's not like people's opinions of us will change after barely getting by the Browns. They were a called back 75 yard TD pass from possibly winning. Keep perspective here.

I'd just like to add to whodi's comment:

While the teams are listed in order of projected final rankings, using the formula that includes the preseason projection as well as Week 1, the column marked 2006 Only gives each team's ranking based on just one game

The Saints are actually ranked 9th after Week 1.

32. SAINTS 1-0 9 17 5 17

TheDeuce · 09-14-2006, 11:14 AM

Still dumb. I created Power Rankings, and I will tell morons like Schatz how to use them....

WhoDatQB · 09-14-2006, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

We also have to consider that the preseason projections from our projection system don't always agree with conventional wisdom or even the personal opinions of the Football Outsiders staff, including myself ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â particularly when it comes to Oakland. Nonetheless, our projection system is the most accurate available, picking more playoff teams over the last two years than any other.

It's called a preface. They are letting you know ahead of time, the rankings you see are not weighted on normal Team A beat Team B criteria week by week. I mean damn, you'd think we just beat the Steelers. We barely beat the freaking Browns. With our schedule, we may very well be the last team in the league come the end of the season, which is how they are PROJECTING their rankings, not gut shot reactions to week by week performance. Lighten up. It's not like people's opinions of us will change after barely getting by the Browns. They were a called back 75 yard TD pass from possibly winning. Keep perspective here.

I am tired of hearing about the 75 yard pass that was called back. Drop it already. If there was not a hold there then Frye would have been eaten alive and would not have gotten the pass off. Find some other reason to dog the Saints, but not for a legitamate penalty that called back a long play that if the penalty had not happened the QB would not have gotten the ball off.

Are the Saints a top ten team right now? Nope. However they showed improvement in defense no matter who it was against, and hey will only get better as a team as the year goes on. Like I said a couple of months ago, I figure the Saints to be 7-9 or 8-8, too bad the schedule is soo rough looking or it could be better. Of course I figure the NFC East will not be nearly as good as other people seem to think.

saintswhodi · 09-14-2006, 11:49 AM

If there was not a hold there then Frye would have been eaten alive and would not have gotten the pass off.

Do you have an alternate universe machine that tells you that's fact?

Find some other reason to dog the Saints

Who's dogging the Saints? I am trying to add a grain of salt to this we have a dominant defense talk. It was Cleveland. Are you also tired of hearing about the fumble that negated any chance they had of scoring at least a FG right before the half?

but not for a legitamate penalty that called back a long play that if the penalty had not happened the QB would not have gotten the ball off.

Again, alternate universe thinking. I am going by what DID happen, not what someone assumes WOULD not have happened.

saintswhodi · 09-14-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Still dumb. I created Power Rankings, and I will tell morons like Schatz how to use them....

I guess it's just above your level of comprehension. :P :P

mjf150 · 09-14-2006, 12:00 PM

The other Power Ranking from Fox Sports has the Saints listed at #18, which is far different from the #32 by Schatz.

18. Reggie BushÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã…Â“Madden 07ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬? ratings are way off. He should have 99s across the board. The rookie didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t break any big ones on Sunday, but still managed to completely dominate the game.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings

nedly · 09-14-2006, 12:27 PM

about rankings and such. Enjoy the rise from the ashes, to the rise to the top of the rankings by seasons end. I can see it happening, but I don't get pissed off by some uninformed hemmoroids opinion. He'll lose credibilityfor saying stupid things.

Euphoria · 09-14-2006, 12:45 PM

HEY EVERYONE NEEDS TO BOYCOTT POWER RANKINGS...

They mean NOTHING!!! This frustrates me and pisses me off when people get upset over them! Its someones OPINION... not to mention some of you think we beat the sorry Browns we are going to the Super Bowl this year... WE BARELY BEAT the Browns and we are liable to walk into GB and get toasted!

Tobias-Reiper · 09-14-2006, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

HEY EVERYONE NEEDS TO BOYCOTT POWER RANKINGS...

This frustrates me and pisses me off when people get upset over them! Its someones OPINION.

This one is such a gem....

... Halo should probably implement the Wonderlic...

jdiggy · 09-14-2006, 04:56 PM

utter crap ranking

09-14-2006, 11:06 AM	#11
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by saintswhodi We also have to consider that the preseason projections from our projection system don't always agree with conventional wisdom or even the personal opinions of the Football Outsiders staff, including myself ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â particularly when it comes to Oakland. Nonetheless, our projection system is the most accurate available, picking more playoff teams over the last two years than any other. It's called a preface. They are letting you know ahead of time, the rankings you see are not weighted on normal Team A beat Team B criteria week by week. I mean damn, you'd think we just beat the Steelers. We barely beat the freaking Browns. With our schedule, we may very well be the last team in the league come the end of the season, which is how they are PROJECTING their rankings, not gut shot reactions to week by week performance. Lighten up. It's not like people's opinions of us will change after barely getting by the Browns. They were a called back 75 yard TD pass from possibly winning. Keep perspective here. I'd just like to add to whodi's comment: While the teams are listed in order of projected final rankings, using the formula that includes the preseason projection as well as Week 1, the column marked 2006 Only gives each team's ranking based on just one game The Saints are actually ranked 9th after Week 1. 32. SAINTS 1-0 9 17 5 17
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09-14-2006, 11:14 AM	#12
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Still dumb. I created Power Rankings, and I will tell morons like Schatz how to use them....
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09-14-2006, 11:23 AM	#13
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	this pisses me off..... Originally Posted by saintswhodi We also have to consider that the preseason projections from our projection system don't always agree with conventional wisdom or even the personal opinions of the Football Outsiders staff, including myself ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â particularly when it comes to Oakland. Nonetheless, our projection system is the most accurate available, picking more playoff teams over the last two years than any other. It's called a preface. They are letting you know ahead of time, the rankings you see are not weighted on normal Team A beat Team B criteria week by week. I mean damn, you'd think we just beat the Steelers. We barely beat the freaking Browns. With our schedule, we may very well be the last team in the league come the end of the season, which is how they are PROJECTING their rankings, not gut shot reactions to week by week performance. Lighten up. It's not like people's opinions of us will change after barely getting by the Browns. They were a called back 75 yard TD pass from possibly winning. Keep perspective here. I am tired of hearing about the 75 yard pass that was called back. Drop it already. If there was not a hold there then Frye would have been eaten alive and would not have gotten the pass off. Find some other reason to dog the Saints, but not for a legitamate penalty that called back a long play that if the penalty had not happened the QB would not have gotten the ball off. Are the Saints a top ten team right now? Nope. However they showed improvement in defense no matter who it was against, and hey will only get better as a team as the year goes on. Like I said a couple of months ago, I figure the Saints to be 7-9 or 8-8, too bad the schedule is soo rough looking or it could be better. Of course I figure the NFC East will not be nearly as good as other people seem to think.

09-14-2006, 11:49 AM	#14
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If there was not a hold there then Frye would have been eaten alive and would not have gotten the pass off. Do you have an alternate universe machine that tells you that's fact? Find some other reason to dog the Saints Who's dogging the Saints? I am trying to add a grain of salt to this we have a dominant defense talk. It was Cleveland. Are you also tired of hearing about the fumble that negated any chance they had of scoring at least a FG right before the half? but not for a legitamate penalty that called back a long play that if the penalty had not happened the QB would not have gotten the ball off. Again, alternate universe thinking. I am going by what DID happen, not what someone assumes WOULD not have happened.

09-14-2006, 11:50 AM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Still dumb. I created Power Rankings, and I will tell morons like Schatz how to use them.... I guess it's just above your level of comprehension. :P :P

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09-14-2006, 12:00 PM	#16
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 726	The other Power Ranking from Fox Sports has the Saints listed at #18, which is far different from the #32 by Schatz. 18. Reggie BushÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã…Â“Madden 07ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬? ratings are way off. He should have 99s across the board. The rookie didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t break any big ones on Sunday, but still managed to completely dominate the game. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings
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09-14-2006, 12:27 PM	#17
nedly Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 72	Worry not......... about rankings and such. Enjoy the rise from the ashes, to the rise to the top of the rankings by seasons end. I can see it happening, but I don't get pissed off by some uninformed hemmoroids opinion. He'll lose credibilityfor saying stupid things.
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09-14-2006, 12:45 PM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Worry not......... HEY EVERYONE NEEDS TO BOYCOTT POWER RANKINGS... They mean NOTHING!!! This frustrates me and pisses me off when people get upset over them! Its someones OPINION... not to mention some of you think we beat the sorry Browns we are going to the Super Bowl this year... WE BARELY BEAT the Browns and we are liable to walk into GB and get toasted!

09-14-2006, 03:55 PM	#19
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: Worry not......... Originally Posted by Euphoria HEY EVERYONE NEEDS TO BOYCOTT POWER RANKINGS... This frustrates me and pisses me off when people get upset over them! Its someones OPINION. This one is such a gem.... ... Halo should probably implement the Wonderlic...

09-14-2006, 04:56 PM	#20
jdiggy 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ol' Metry Posts: 239	utter crap ranking