Stop Dunn, then go after Vick

LongTimeFan · 09-19-2006, 08:39 PM

I think the Saints stop Dunn right away and force Vick to win the game putting him in a lot of passing situations keeping him contained in the pocket, do not let him run outside, but again I think it's starts with stopping Dunn which I strongly feel the Saints can do, stop Dunn and Vick will have all the pressure.
Anyone remember the Bears playing the Falcons last year, they stopped Dunn in his tracks and they then with after Vick bringing his ass to the ground a few times, I think that Vick will never forget that game, I loved it being I HATE the Falcons (sorry if there are Falcon fans here)
Also, we may just simply out score them being the Falcons haven't put more than 14 points on the board yet this season but we scored over 30...
If I'm Payton I run Deuce often in the first quarter and give Bush a few plays to mix it up with Deuce than I'd start a pass attack and see if the Falcons can stop us. (hard pat will be to protect Brees)
Oh , I'd tell my guys that if that get close to Vick to hit him with everything they got in them and to do this often to make Vick think twice about running outside, I want him to pay dearly, nothing would make me feel happier..

Go Saints..

I thought about the upcoming game Monday night and feel that we have a good chance at beating them Falcons, if we play smart we win and will then be 3-0
WOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOO

GoldRush26 · 09-19-2006, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan

I think the Saints stop Dunn right away and force Vick to win the game putting him in a lot of passing situations keeping him contained in the pocket, do not let him run outside, but again I think it's starts with stopping Dunn which I strongly feel the Saints can do, stop Dunn and Vick will have all the pressure.
Anyone remember the Bears playing the Falcons last year, they stopped Dunn in his tracks and they then with after Vick bringing his ass to the ground a few times, I think that Vick will never forget that game, I loved it being I HATE the Falcons (sorry if there are Falcon fans here)
Also, we may just simply out score them being the Falcons haven't put more than 14 points on the board yet this season but we scored over 30...
If I'm Payton I run Deuce often in the first quarter and give Bush a few plays to mix it up with Deuce than I'd start a pass attack and see if the Falcons can stop us. (hard pat will be to protect Brees)
Oh , I'd tell my guys that if that get close to Vick to hit him with everything they got in them and to do this often to make Vick think twice about running outside, I want him to pay dearly, nothing would make me feel happier..

Go Saints..

I thought about the upcoming game Monday night and feel that we have a good chance at beating them Falcons, if we play smart we win and will then be 3-0
WOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOO

I agree actually. This is the only instance in which u can count on the QB to get his, but that's what will happen. We can't be preoccupied with Vick the entire game, becausse he will get his yards. Dunn can be stopped though. The more and more he runs, the better. It's when he and Dunn are BOTH being productive....that's when we have problems. I hope the coaching staff has figured out how they will defense the option play that Vick has been running with Dunn this past game. That was killing the Bucs.

Scoring early is crucial though. They need to set the tempo by creating more of a sense of urgency for the Falcons.

We need to make Vick beat us though, and stopping Dunn is the first step.

LongTimeFan · 09-19-2006, 09:29 PM

We stop Vick we win

xan · 09-19-2006, 09:32 PM

Forcing long marches against their defense will give us more of an advantage. I think that our D will improve over the game, so I'm more concerned with scoring against the Falcons' defense. If we can't move the ball, we won't win the game no matter how our D does against Vick and Dunn.

LongTimeFan · 09-19-2006, 09:33 PM

IMO the Saints will score 21 points.

D24pick · 09-19-2006, 09:49 PM

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH WE'LL SCORE WE'LL WIN, HOPEFULLY!

GoldRush26 · 09-19-2006, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by xan

Forcing long marches against their defense will give us more of an advantage. I think that our D will improve over the game, so I'm more concerned with scoring against the Falcons' defense. If we can't move the ball, we won't win the game no matter how our D does against Vick and Dunn.

Yeah...I don't think we will have a particularly hard time scoring, call me crazy. D. Hall won't be as much of a factor as people think. D. Hall is quite a talent but our type of offense negates his world class speed. Our offense won't run any fly routes which rely on speed. I think Colston is the perfect weapon against Hall. No one is going to out run Hall, not even Reggie. However, Colston has a good 6 inches and 30 pounds on D. Hall and can physicially domintate him in short to intermediate routes. That's one thing that they need to do....have Colston punish Hall every play.

Other than stopping Dunn, protecting Brees will be the next most important issue. We protect Drew adequately and we will get our points. Like I said in my previous post I agree with Longtime....stopping Dunn is #1 priority, and I don't know how they plan to do this. All of this is easier said than done though(no pun intended).

D24pick · 09-19-2006, 09:54 PM

Stallworth and DH always outrun Hall

They'll double Horn leaving physical Colston out there for a good game, as well that no LB nor Safety can run with DH

hagan714 · 09-19-2006, 10:06 PM

Stay in your lane.
That is the key to stopping the Vick and Dunn running show. over persue and Dunn will cut back all night. losing pocket containment and vick will kill you.
Stay at home. that should be the song for the defense this week.

mikesaintfan · 09-20-2006, 09:03 AM

I hope the coaching staff has figured out how they will defense the option play that Vick has been running with Dunn this past game. That was killing the Bucs.

force it outside use the sidelines

09-19-2006, 08:39 PM	#1
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	*Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* I think the Saints stop Dunn right away and force Vick to win the game putting him in a lot of passing situations keeping him contained in the pocket, do not let him run outside, but again I think it's starts with stopping Dunn which I strongly feel the Saints can do, stop Dunn and Vick will have all the pressure. Anyone remember the Bears playing the Falcons last year, they stopped Dunn in his tracks and they then with after Vick bringing his ass to the ground a few times, I think that Vick will never forget that game, I loved it being I HATE the Falcons (sorry if there are Falcon fans here) Also, we may just simply out score them being the Falcons haven't put more than 14 points on the board yet this season but we scored over 30... If I'm Payton I run Deuce often in the first quarter and give Bush a few plays to mix it up with Deuce than I'd start a pass attack and see if the Falcons can stop us. (hard pat will be to protect Brees) Oh , I'd tell my guys that if that get close to Vick to hit him with everything they got in them and to do this often to make Vick think twice about running outside, I want him to pay dearly, nothing would make me feel happier.. Go Saints.. I thought about the upcoming game Monday night and feel that we have a good chance at beating them Falcons, if we play smart we win and will then be 3-0 WOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOO
	Rest In Peace JoeSam, thanks for everything my friend.

09-19-2006, 09:23 PM	#2
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* Originally Posted by LongTimeFan I think the Saints stop Dunn right away and force Vick to win the game putting him in a lot of passing situations keeping him contained in the pocket, do not let him run outside, but again I think it's starts with stopping Dunn which I strongly feel the Saints can do, stop Dunn and Vick will have all the pressure. Anyone remember the Bears playing the Falcons last year, they stopped Dunn in his tracks and they then with after Vick bringing his ass to the ground a few times, I think that Vick will never forget that game, I loved it being I HATE the Falcons (sorry if there are Falcon fans here) Also, we may just simply out score them being the Falcons haven't put more than 14 points on the board yet this season but we scored over 30... If I'm Payton I run Deuce often in the first quarter and give Bush a few plays to mix it up with Deuce than I'd start a pass attack and see if the Falcons can stop us. (hard pat will be to protect Brees) Oh , I'd tell my guys that if that get close to Vick to hit him with everything they got in them and to do this often to make Vick think twice about running outside, I want him to pay dearly, nothing would make me feel happier.. Go Saints.. I thought about the upcoming game Monday night and feel that we have a good chance at beating them Falcons, if we play smart we win and will then be 3-0 WOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOO I agree actually. This is the only instance in which u can count on the QB to get his, but that's what will happen. We can't be preoccupied with Vick the entire game, becausse he will get his yards. Dunn can be stopped though. The more and more he runs, the better. It's when he and Dunn are BOTH being productive....that's when we have problems. I hope the coaching staff has figured out how they will defense the option play that Vick has been running with Dunn this past game. That was killing the Bucs. Scoring early is crucial though. They need to set the tempo by creating more of a sense of urgency for the Falcons. We need to make Vick beat us though, and stopping Dunn is the first step.
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09-19-2006, 09:29 PM	#3
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* We stop Vick we win

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* Forcing long marches against their defense will give us more of an advantage. I think that our D will improve over the game, so I'm more concerned with scoring against the Falcons' defense. If we can't move the ball, we won't win the game no matter how our D does against Vick and Dunn.

09-19-2006, 09:33 PM	#5
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GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Re: RE: Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* Originally Posted by xan Forcing long marches against their defense will give us more of an advantage. I think that our D will improve over the game, so I'm more concerned with scoring against the Falcons' defense. If we can't move the ball, we won't win the game no matter how our D does against Vick and Dunn. Yeah...I don't think we will have a particularly hard time scoring, call me crazy. D. Hall won't be as much of a factor as people think. D. Hall is quite a talent but our type of offense negates his world class speed. Our offense won't run any fly routes which rely on speed. I think Colston is the perfect weapon against Hall. No one is going to out run Hall, not even Reggie. However, Colston has a good 6 inches and 30 pounds on D. Hall and can physicially domintate him in short to intermediate routes. That's one thing that they need to do....have Colston punish Hall every play. Other than stopping Dunn, protecting Brees will be the next most important issue. We protect Drew adequately and we will get our points. Like I said in my previous post I agree with Longtime....stopping Dunn is #1 priority, and I don't know how they plan to do this. All of this is easier said than done though(no pun intended).
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09-19-2006, 09:54 PM	#8
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	RE: Re: RE: Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* Stallworth and DH always outrun Hall They'll double Horn leaving physical Colston out there for a good game, as well that no LB nor Safety can run with DH

09-19-2006, 10:06 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Re: RE: Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* Stay in your lane. That is the key to stopping the Vick and Dunn running show. over persue and Dunn will cut back all night. losing pocket containment and vick will kill you. Stay at home. that should be the song for the defense this week.

09-20-2006, 09:03 AM	#10
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	RE: Re: RE: Re: *Stop Dunn, then go after Vick* I hope the coaching staff has figured out how they will defense the option play that Vick has been running with Dunn this past game. That was killing the Bucs. force it outside use the sidelines

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