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tiggerpolice 09-26-2006 02:53 PM

can we beat carolina?
 
hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

APSaintsfan 09-26-2006 03:01 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
U better believe we can?
Delhomme is going down.
Paul

BoudinSandwich 09-26-2006 03:03 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
1) It's going to be hard for the team to go from Monday night, have a short week of practice, and play on the road on Sunday.

2) Steve Smith is back.

Other than that, I see no reason why we can't pound the Panthers.

Euphoria 09-26-2006 03:10 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
Panthers early favorites... -7

APSaintsfan 09-26-2006 03:19 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
No way!!!!!
There is no way.
Paul

saintsfan1313 09-26-2006 03:58 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
i'll take that bet...Saints gunna make daddy some money......

papz 09-26-2006 04:38 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
We just creamed Atlanta... I don't see why we couldn't do the same to the Panthers!

AllSaints 09-26-2006 04:41 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
Panthers are going down time to whoop some panther tail... lets show ppl why there are overrated ......

BJSim 09-26-2006 04:44 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
Keys to beating the Panthers:

1) Stop the run. The Saints have proven they can do that effectively.

2) Contain Steve Smith. Hard to do, but with good game planning it's possible.

3) Force Jake Delhomme into mistakes. Pressure, pressure, pressure. Keep him worried about the sacks and he'll throw the Ints.

4) Run the ball. Keep the two headed monster going out of the backfield. I don't care who gets the carries/screen passes (Bush, McAllister, hell even Stecker) keep it up.

5) Continue to use Bush and Horn as decoys. They're both doing a great job drawing double teams, let Carolina continue to do this and open it up for Colston. He doesn't have too many games left as a 'sleeper' WR.

6) Exectute. I like that we've had only four or less penalties per game. Keep the focus on smart play.

We can do all of these things. These are things that this team has proven it can do. So it's not impossible or even improbable that the Saints go 4-0. With Tampa in the wings with a rookie QB we should go 5-0.

LongTimeFan 09-26-2006 04:47 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
Vick can run, Jake can't, long they for Jake, 6-7 sacks I say..
We win making us 4-0 at that point..

BJSim 09-26-2006 04:50 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
LTF, I'm seeing 4-5 because we're going to commit more towards stopping the run and Smith. That means less rushers, but still 5 sacks would be awesome.

LongTimeFan 09-26-2006 04:54 PM

RE: can we beat carolina?
 
I'll love 4-5 sacks just as well , if we put pressure on Jake he'll snap, I know we can stop Foster so Jake will have to win this game..

ssmitty 09-26-2006 05:02 PM

this will be our biggest test to date.....
carolina is much better than their record and should easily match us play for play.
if we beat carolina, start printing the playoff tickets...............
this is pure coaching at its finest...........
again, thanks payton.............i give the coach all the credit and he deserves it.
i'll have to go with 4 correct picks in a row, saints win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, was i counting? smitty

D24pick 09-26-2006 05:25 PM

Sure we can

Just don't forget that Carolina has recovered and gotten Smith back...We need to stop their sorry running game, and force Jake to beat us...We need our start DT's so far(Young and Thomas) to press the inside early

Another thing we need to do early if keep an eye on the big physical recivers like Carter and Johnson, put Deloatch on Johnson and Thomas can man up with Carter...MM needs to focus and read a bit better than average going against Smith...If we can stop the run, execute, and develop some nice drives, we'll beat them 4 sure!

gandhi1007 09-26-2006 06:18 PM

This will be our toughest test yet. We already know we can stop the run but Delhomme, Smith, & Johnson are going to test our corners, which seem to be the only weak link in the defense so far. If the D-line can keep pressure on Delhomme, he'll make errors......if they don't, it could be a long day. Make no mistake.....they have improved, but our corners are still suspect. This will also be the biggest test for our young offensive line. With all that said, I think will put a cleat in Carolina's a**! Final score: Saints-24 Panthers-17

SAINTSS74 09-26-2006 09:30 PM

i am not worried about them coming off a short week.sean p will have them ready. the first three weeks shows that.he is a great coach so i am not worried at all.we will win 27-10

NarwhalHunter 09-27-2006 03:12 AM

This is going to be the big test for the season. We have to step on Carolina now to be able to take control over the division (I'm pretty sure we can roll Tampa, just scare the spleens outta them, and Vick is probably already trying to come up with another excuse for choking next time we meet), so this game has serious playoff implications. The players know it and Payton most definitely knows it, so they will come out swinging.

The problem is that Carolina, when they're on top of their game, match up well against us. They have great receivers and a QB who has a tendency to come up big when it counts, and that defense is a younger, leaner version of Tampa's. Of course, Steve Smith has been hurt and no one else on offense has stepped up, the o-line has gotten banged up and turned Delhomme much more skittish, and the D has been spotty. Basically, they haven't been playing anywhere near as good as they can, but that makes them dangerous. It would be easy to just overlook them. They want to win as bad as we do to stay in the hunt.

I think this game will come down to coaching and gameplanning more than anything else. We know how our guys can play when the chips are down, and I think they'll still be riding the high of the past 3 weeks and not lose any of the focus they've shown lately. If Carolina manages to regain some discipline and plays up to their ability, it will be a real dogfight. That seems like a big if right now, though.

hagan714 09-27-2006 10:24 AM

yes we can.
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LKelley67 09-28-2006 10:26 AM

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The problem is that Carolina, when they're on top of their game
I beg to differ. Morgan out, Witherspoon gone makes for good Reggie matchups.

Their banged up woeful O-Line should be weaker than Atlantas.

The biggest positive they have to me is knowing how important it is to scrounge a win and not be 1-3 behind the 4-0 Saints.

jrmllb 09-28-2006 10:48 AM

I think we can beat them.....stop the run and hope our corners can cover the field....Look for Harper to put a monster hit on Smith....that guy has a mean streak in him and I think Harper will want him out of the game early...

RedNekSaint 09-28-2006 11:03 AM

Yep and we will, 24 -6.

But at least Kasay will have a good day. :)

maximkat 09-28-2006 12:44 PM

Looking at the history of these teams would probably be a waste of time. Both of these teams have had fairly big changes on both sides of the ball. Seems to me we see a lot of the Saints best ball against the Panthers, and the same can be said for them. I think it will be a good game, no predictions here, I just want to see a Saints win.

RedNekSaint 09-28-2006 12:47 PM

Saints 24 - Panthers 6

Madmarsha 09-28-2006 01:41 PM

I think in our new pastime of being fans of a perennially good team, it is our job to EXPECT a win. So, hell, yeah, they can beat the Panthers. And I think it's our job after a loss to NOT be critical. Be disappointed and maybe even mad for a bit but not critical. We know a loss is going to come sooner or later and, God knows, Saints fans have had PLENTY to criticize in the past; but this is NOT your father's Saints team. I feel a difference, don't ya'll? And it's not just wishful thinking as it has so often been in the past. I think we can feel it deep down.

All that being said, I also feel deep down that Atlanta is going to feel like a cakewalk compared to this upcoming Panthers game. I think we're going to feel like we took the hits physically along with the players. I'm not saying they can't do it. They can. But either way, I'm ready. One game at a time. And I'm looking forward to each and every one no matter what the final score is.

ssmitty 09-28-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmarsha
I think in our new pastime of being fans of a perennially good team, it is our job to EXPECT a win. So, hell, yeah, they can beat the Panthers. And I think it's our job after a loss to NOT be critical. Be disappointed and maybe even mad for a bit but not critical. We know a loss is going to come sooner or later and, God knows, Saints fans have had PLENTY to criticize in the past; but this is NOT your father's Saints team. I feel a difference, don't ya'll? And it's not just wishful thinking as it has so often been in the past. I think we can feel it deep down.

All that being said, I also feel deep down that Atlanta is going to feel like a cakewalk compared to this upcoming Panthers game. I think we're going to feel like we took the hits physically along with the players. I'm not saying they can't do it. They can. But either way, I'm ready. One game at a time. And I'm looking forward to each and every one no matter what the final score is.

what's a loss? smitty

Madmarsha 09-28-2006 04:43 PM

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what's a loss?
Ohhhhhh ... SNAP!

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-28-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmarsha
I think in our new pastime of being fans of a perennially good team, it is our job to EXPECT a win.

True. When you work hard to eliminate the mistakes that causes losses, winning should become an expectation.

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So, hell, yeah, they can beat the Panthers. And I think it's our job after a loss to NOT be critical. Be disappointed and maybe even mad for a bit but not critical.
Agree with the first part but not with the second. One of the reasons that this group of Saints are successful early in the season is because they are self critical. Payton's always talking about "cleaning up" errors. Not a bad thing at all.

New we will have to face the fact that there are established, talented, and well coached teams out there. Each of those games will be a battle.

I'll be satisfied as long as the Saints do not beat themself. If they do, I'll be critical. And I belive so should you.

Quote:

We know a loss is going to come sooner or later and, God knows, Saints fans have had PLENTY to criticize in the past; but this is NOT your father's Saints team. I feel a difference, don't ya'll?
Smart, prepared, versitile, motivated, and resiliant are all attributes that instantly come to mind with this team.

Quote:

And it's not just wishful thinking as it has so often been in the past. I think we can feel it deep down.

All that being said, I also feel deep down that Atlanta is going to feel like a cakewalk compared to this upcoming Panthers game. I think we're going to feel like we took the hits physically along with the players. I'm not saying they can't do it. They can. But either way, I'm ready. One game at a time. And I'm looking forward to each and every one no matter what the final score is.
The Panthers have not yet established an identity this year. I mean their defense was run all over by Atlanta, and they nearly lost a game to an 0-3 team led by a QB who finished his day in surgery.

They'll be at home, and they'll be desparate I'm sure. 1-3 with 1-2 in the division behind a team that's 4-0 and 2-0 in the division is a hole that'll be nearly impossible to dig out of.

But from what we've all seen, when the Saints play their brand of smart football, they are difficult to beat.

SFIAH

Madmarsha 09-28-2006 04:58 PM

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I'll be satisfied as long as the Saints do not beat themself. If they do, I'll be critical. And I belive so should you
SaintFaninHotlanta, I don't disagree with this at all. This was SOP in the past for the Saints to beat themselves. I just don't see it happening with this team. What I meant was that if they have 1, maybe 2, games this year where they just play stupid, we try to grin and bear it rather than forgetting all the other great games they played and start dogging them right away. If it turns out they're the same old Saints, hell, yeah, be as critical of them as we should be. But I think MVP (Most Valuable Payton) will be more critical of them than we can be. 3-0 like Lombardi? Not bad company to be in!

ssmitty 09-28-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmarsha
Quote:

what's a loss?
Ohhhhhh ... SNAP!

what's a snap? smitty :lol:

shackney 09-28-2006 05:30 PM

cORNERS? lAST WEEK i SAW THE BEST MAN ON MAN COVERAGE i'VE EVER SEEN BY ANY TEAM. lAST WEEK OUR CORNERS WERE DRAPED ON ATLANTA'S WIDEOUTS...IT WAS LIKE THEY CLONED DEION SANDERS. WHY CAN'T WE COVER STEVE SMITH AND KEYSHAWN?

Madmarsha 09-28-2006 05:33 PM

Oh, Smitty, you are so witty! :o

sugarcane64 09-28-2006 06:11 PM

We WILL beat the Panthers!

saintfan 09-28-2006 06:16 PM

Just rattle Jakie Poo. He gets worse when he gets pissy. When you see him whining to the refs you know you've got him. He throws the ball up for grabs a lot, and under pressure he'll do it even more. With their o-line in the shape it's in we should be able to push the pocket. We're 11-11 all time against 'em, and aren't we 5 of our last 6 in their place? There's no reason we can't beat the Panthers.

ssmitty 09-28-2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmarsha
Oh, Smitty, you are so witty! :o

thank you for not changing that w to a sh...............
now, really, what is a loss? smitty


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