joe horn thoughts

procto · 10-07-2006, 12:35 PM

well guys i just traded randy moss for joe horn straight up in my fantasy league....i dont usually like to have saints players b/c i pull for individuals during the saints game and i dont like to do that! but i think joe is about to blow up...colston is on fire and teams have to watch reggie, that leaves JOE LITTLE BIG HORN!!!

BoudinSandwich · 10-07-2006, 12:59 PM

Well, from the beginning, I told people not to draft Moss. With Brooks throwing to him, he'll never acheive even close to his potential. Brooks is now hurt and, sadly, the Raiders don't have a QB to take his position that's any better than him.

I hope Moss gets out of Oakland and goes to a team where he can be productive once again. If not, his legacy is gone. He'll never be what he could be.

Brann · 10-07-2006, 07:45 PM

It's not Brooke throwing to him that's the problem, it's that NO quarterback for the Raiders will srtay upright long enough to feed him the ball. I mean, my impression of Brooks is that he will tear apart any team given enough time by the O-line (we saw this when he played against the Bucs because Deuce opened the passing lanes up). Moss isn't trying and the O-line in Oakland makes the Cardinals' line look like All-Worlders.

BoudinSandwich · 10-07-2006, 11:53 PM

Even with the greatest line in football, Moss wasn't going to acheive his potential with Brooks as QB. Brooks can't throw the long ball to save his life. He has the arm, but no accuracy/judgement. He can only throw bullets. He's not very good at leading a receiver on a go route.

We've seen it over and over again. Horn and Stallworth could never get to those deep balls that Brooks threw.

With that said, it's not like the other QBs behind Brooks are any better, though. The whole team is crap. Moss needs to leave.

Brann · 10-08-2006, 12:14 AM

Yeah...Jeff Blake threw the prettiest deep ball in the league back in the day. Too bad Haslett sucked as a coach and motivator.

D24pick · 10-08-2006, 02:59 AM

Actually Brooks was one of the best deep ball gun slangers in the league, the only problem was that he was not a leading QB. Brooks has torn apart the Raiders, and has no plans on ever succeeding again

But good trade

BoudinSandwich · 10-08-2006, 08:04 AM

No he wasn't. Gah, I hate when people referred to Brooks as a deep ball thrower. If he was so good at throwing the deep ball, where were all of our 50, 60, 70 yard bomb plays? Do you remember any? No. He couldn't judge the receivers well enough. He had the arm, but all he could throw were bullets or bombs that sailed too far for the receivers to catch.

Look at all the AB highlights on YouTube and tell me how many bombs there are. Not many. The longest ones are bullets with the exception of the one GOOD bomb play that we had where the referee, unfortunately, gets in Joe Horn's way and breaks up the pass.

I'm sorry, but I remember us trying for the deep ball quite often. It always resulted in an incomplete pass.

BoudinSandwich · 10-08-2006, 08:05 AM

Either way, Brooks aside, Moss needs to get the hell out of Oakland if he ever wants to be successful again.

spkb25 · 10-08-2006, 11:42 AM

dude moss is not what he once was. this has kinda been happening the last few seasons. i think owens is starting to look old too.

Brann · 10-08-2006, 01:47 PM

Brooks wasn't a deep-baller. He could sling a laser 45 yards and never have it change elevation, but he didn't throw the rainbow type long ball that Blake could.

10-07-2006, 12:35 PM	#1
procto Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bossier city Posts: 56	joe horn thoughts well guys i just traded randy moss for joe horn straight up in my fantasy league....i dont usually like to have saints players b/c i pull for individuals during the saints game and i dont like to do that! but i think joe is about to blow up...colston is on fire and teams have to watch reggie, that leaves JOE LITTLE BIG HORN!!!

10-07-2006, 12:59 PM	#2
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: joe horn thoughts Well, from the beginning, I told people not to draft Moss. With Brooks throwing to him, he'll never acheive even close to his potential. Brooks is now hurt and, sadly, the Raiders don't have a QB to take his position that's any better than him. I hope Moss gets out of Oakland and goes to a team where he can be productive once again. If not, his legacy is gone. He'll never be what he could be.

10-07-2006, 07:45 PM	#3
Brann Ill-tempered Texan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pascagoula, MS Posts: 228	RE: joe horn thoughts It's not Brooke throwing to him that's the problem, it's that NO quarterback for the Raiders will srtay upright long enough to feed him the ball. I mean, my impression of Brooks is that he will tear apart any team given enough time by the O-line (we saw this when he played against the Bucs because Deuce opened the passing lanes up). Moss isn't trying and the O-line in Oakland makes the Cardinals' line look like All-Worlders.

10-07-2006, 11:53 PM	#4
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: joe horn thoughts Even with the greatest line in football, Moss wasn't going to acheive his potential with Brooks as QB. Brooks can't throw the long ball to save his life. He has the arm, but no accuracy/judgement. He can only throw bullets. He's not very good at leading a receiver on a go route. We've seen it over and over again. Horn and Stallworth could never get to those deep balls that Brooks threw. With that said, it's not like the other QBs behind Brooks are any better, though. The whole team is crap. Moss needs to leave.
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10-08-2006, 12:14 AM	#5
Brann Ill-tempered Texan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pascagoula, MS Posts: 228	RE: joe horn thoughts Yeah...Jeff Blake threw the prettiest deep ball in the league back in the day. Too bad Haslett sucked as a coach and motivator.

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10-08-2006, 02:59 AM	#6
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	RE: joe horn thoughts Actually Brooks was one of the best deep ball gun slangers in the league, the only problem was that he was not a leading QB. Brooks has torn apart the Raiders, and has no plans on ever succeeding again But good trade

10-08-2006, 08:04 AM	#7
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: joe horn thoughts No he wasn't. Gah, I hate when people referred to Brooks as a deep ball thrower. If he was so good at throwing the deep ball, where were all of our 50, 60, 70 yard bomb plays? Do you remember any? No. He couldn't judge the receivers well enough. He had the arm, but all he could throw were bullets or bombs that sailed too far for the receivers to catch. Look at all the AB highlights on YouTube and tell me how many bombs there are. Not many. The longest ones are bullets with the exception of the one GOOD bomb play that we had where the referee, unfortunately, gets in Joe Horn's way and breaks up the pass. I'm sorry, but I remember us trying for the deep ball quite often. It always resulted in an incomplete pass.
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10-08-2006, 08:05 AM	#8
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: joe horn thoughts Either way, Brooks aside, Moss needs to get the hell out of Oakland if he ever wants to be successful again.

10-08-2006, 11:42 AM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	RE: joe horn thoughts dude moss is not what he once was. this has kinda been happening the last few seasons. i think owens is starting to look old too.

10-08-2006, 01:47 PM	#10
Brann Ill-tempered Texan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pascagoula, MS Posts: 228	RE: joe horn thoughts Brooks wasn't a deep-baller. He could sling a laser 45 yards and never have it change elevation, but he didn't throw the rainbow type long ball that Blake could.