Just curious, why is it so important

saintswhodi · 10-13-2006, 05:31 PM

to so many fans that the national media write good stuff about us? And why do people get so effected when they write negative things? Who cares? Let them write whatever the hell they want, the only people who truly understand the monumental changes this team has gone through is US, lifelong Saints fans. Since the beginning of the year, it's been "so and so said this" and "why are they saying that?" I am just curious as to why anyone cares? Is it really that important to that many people that ESPN kisses our arse? Or any other national sports news outlet? Why?

saintfan · 10-13-2006, 05:41 PM

Well...I suppose I agree. I recognize that the "experts", while usually more in tune than the "average" fan -- which most of us aren't -- are paid to create controversy. But I won't lie. It hisses me off BIG time to hear Jim Mora blow us off as having NO chance against the Eagles. I guess I just like it when they're wrong about us, and I like to see some people busted more than others. It's part of the whole entertainment package I guess.

hagan714 · 10-13-2006, 06:15 PM

I could care less really. i just hate them thats all. entertainment tonight does not belong in football. okay there was my stab at ESPN. talk about the two teams playing and the players on the field and i am fine.

FatiusJeebs · 10-13-2006, 06:32 PM

I think it may just have to do with that fact that for years.....well...you know. Negative media here, "look who they are playing" over there, "gimmi a break, THE SAINTS???" in that corner, and the famous..."this team has a history and history is destined to repeat itself" bull crap. Like if you got a new car or something...you enjoy getting praise for it. In general we may not care about those that don't like it but deep down somewhere you can't help but feel a little irked when something you care about does not get the recognition that it deserves. Human nature maybe? In short....you are right....its should not matter. Some of us ( I am guilty as sin) are just way too in love and way too proud of this team and being a fan of this team. Naturally, I am speaking for myself but I am pretty sure others feel the same way I do....if not...then I am a lunatic...AND PROUD OF IT!!!

jdiggy · 10-13-2006, 09:00 PM

OK, whodi...

My philosophy in life is, give respect and you'll receive respect in return. It applies to every facet of my life except one. The F-ING SAINTS!

Being a Saints fan is part of my personal pride, my self esteem. They've taught me humility and humbleness over the years and in some crazy way, they are an extension of myself on Sundays.
I have absolutely nothing to do with them winning or losing, and yet I'm directly affected by the outcome of every game. I have a pep in my step when they win, and an almost alcohol-like hangover when they lose.

Most of the press I've ever seen or read over the years about the Saints has been negative, but it has never shaken my devotion to the team. When Saints bashing starts every year, I can tune it out. However, when good things are written about the Saints, it's almost like a stroke to my personal ego. That respect and recognition reinforces what I already believe to be true as a fan. It extends the celebration of the win a little bit longer. It's like a return on all that I've emotionally invested over the years and was never rewarded with this stinkin' team. Does this make any sense? I don't know.

It's gotta be some sort of clinical insaniity. But, what am I gonna do? I'm a Saints fan.

smyce · 10-13-2006, 09:13 PM

I think the record isnt saying much. We could still easily finish with a losing record this season. Most of these people writing negative things are just being truthful. The schedule ahead sets up for 8-8 at best. Dont be ready to annoint this 4-1 team that has beaten two bottom feeders and two emotional games at home the Superbowl Champions. .500 record will be a GIANT success for the team this year.

Bobaganoosh · 10-13-2006, 09:58 PM

We just all have that feeling inside of us that we just want to be loved. Or we want people to feel sorry for us...either way, i dont care what anyone says about the Saints, so long as i am enjoying what i see...and right now, i am enjoying what i see.

RockyMountainSaint · 10-14-2006, 12:48 AM

.500 record will be a GIANT success for the team this year.

True.
I didn't give us any hope for a .500 season 2 months ago.
Now we should be allowed to think of something more.
We are 4-1!
If we finish out of the playoffs I hope no one here will be too disappointed.
Realistically I don't believe many if anyone at all figured we would be where we are right now.
If we finish 8-8?
Christ Almighty!
That alone would be Mannah From Heaven!
That being said....
SAINTS in the SUPERBOWL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want it all!

Bobaganoosh · 10-14-2006, 01:49 AM

Payton has done a good job of teaching these ballplayers to play like men. Play smart, dont make mistakes and good things will happen. Like we all said months ago, there were alot of holes to patch and its hard to believe you could take care of all that in one year to make this into a playoff team...so if it happens..WOW...but i will not be disappointed if we miss out because there is no doubt that we are headed in the right direction.

xan · 10-14-2006, 01:53 AM

As someone who doesn't live in the greater New Orleans area, but in the largest media market in the US, it takes a lot to divert attention away from the 13 professional sports franchises in situ. The starvation for news/assessment of the Saints can be palpable at times. For there to be any kind of serious story, it usually must be of a topic either tragic or imminently impacting one of these teams. Not that it is a great guage, but national media attention on the Saints most often means that there's something bad happening, like the AB cartoon football hour. The fact that there's been a lot of attention means that the team is problematic for the Giants, Jets and Eagles.

Whether or not one considers the analysts opinions at ESPN meaningful or relevant, the positive education about the team and its prospects add to the overall anxiety when teams eventually face the Saints. We all know these athletes keep tabs on who gets coverage, how much and for why, especially on ESPN. That simple but supposedly meaningless factor can foster a sliver of doubt over how much confidence to bring to a game with the Saints. And we need all the doubt we can instill in our opponents.

10-13-2006, 05:31 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Just curious, why is it so important to so many fans that the national media write good stuff about us? And why do people get so effected when they write negative things? Who cares? Let them write whatever the hell they want, the only people who truly understand the monumental changes this team has gone through is US, lifelong Saints fans. Since the beginning of the year, it's been "so and so said this" and "why are they saying that?" I am just curious as to why anyone cares? Is it really that important to that many people that ESPN kisses our arse? Or any other national sports news outlet? Why?

10-13-2006, 05:41 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Just curious, why is it so important Well...I suppose I agree. I recognize that the "experts", while usually more in tune than the "average" fan -- which most of us aren't -- are paid to create controversy. But I won't lie. It hisses me off BIG time to hear Jim Mora blow us off as having NO chance against the Eagles. I guess I just like it when they're wrong about us, and I like to see some people busted more than others. It's part of the whole entertainment package I guess.

10-13-2006, 06:15 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Just curious, why is it so important I could care less really. i just hate them thats all. entertainment tonight does not belong in football. okay there was my stab at ESPN. talk about the two teams playing and the players on the field and i am fine.

10-13-2006, 06:32 PM	#4
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	RE: Just curious, why is it so important I think it may just have to do with that fact that for years.....well...you know. Negative media here, "look who they are playing" over there, "gimmi a break, THE SAINTS???" in that corner, and the famous..."this team has a history and history is destined to repeat itself" bull crap. Like if you got a new car or something...you enjoy getting praise for it. In general we may not care about those that don't like it but deep down somewhere you can't help but feel a little irked when something you care about does not get the recognition that it deserves. Human nature maybe? In short....you are right....its should not matter. Some of us ( I am guilty as sin) are just way too in love and way too proud of this team and being a fan of this team. Naturally, I am speaking for myself but I am pretty sure others feel the same way I do....if not...then I am a lunatic...AND PROUD OF IT!!!
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10-14-2006, 01:53 AM	#10
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	As someone who doesn't live in the greater New Orleans area, but in the largest media market in the US, it takes a lot to divert attention away from the 13 professional sports franchises in situ. The starvation for news/assessment of the Saints can be palpable at times. For there to be any kind of serious story, it usually must be of a topic either tragic or imminently impacting one of these teams. Not that it is a great guage, but national media attention on the Saints most often means that there's something bad happening, like the AB cartoon football hour. The fact that there's been a lot of attention means that the team is problematic for the Giants, Jets and Eagles. Whether or not one considers the analysts opinions at ESPN meaningful or relevant, the positive education about the team and its prospects add to the overall anxiety when teams eventually face the Saints. We all know these athletes keep tabs on who gets coverage, how much and for why, especially on ESPN. That simple but supposedly meaningless factor can foster a sliver of doubt over how much confidence to bring to a game with the Saints. And we need all the doubt we can instill in our opponents.
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10-13-2006, 09:00 PM	#5
jdiggy 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ol' Metry Posts: 239	OK, whodi... My philosophy in life is, give respect and you'll receive respect in return. It applies to every facet of my life except one. The F-ING SAINTS! Being a Saints fan is part of my personal pride, my self esteem. They've taught me humility and humbleness over the years and in some crazy way, they are an extension of myself on Sundays. I have absolutely nothing to do with them winning or losing, and yet I'm directly affected by the outcome of every game. I have a pep in my step when they win, and an almost alcohol-like hangover when they lose. Most of the press I've ever seen or read over the years about the Saints has been negative, but it has never shaken my devotion to the team. When Saints bashing starts every year, I can tune it out. However, when good things are written about the Saints, it's almost like a stroke to my personal ego. That respect and recognition reinforces what I already believe to be true as a fan. It extends the celebration of the win a little bit longer. It's like a return on all that I've emotionally invested over the years and was never rewarded with this stinkin' team. Does this make any sense? I don't know. It's gotta be some sort of clinical insaniity. But, what am I gonna do? I'm a Saints fan.

10-13-2006, 09:13 PM	#6
smyce 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Falls, IA Posts: 184	I think the record isnt saying much. We could still easily finish with a losing record this season. Most of these people writing negative things are just being truthful. The schedule ahead sets up for 8-8 at best. Dont be ready to annoint this 4-1 team that has beaten two bottom feeders and two emotional games at home the Superbowl Champions. .500 record will be a GIANT success for the team this year.

10-13-2006, 09:58 PM	#7
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	We just all have that feeling inside of us that we just want to be loved. Or we want people to feel sorry for us...either way, i dont care what anyone says about the Saints, so long as i am enjoying what i see...and right now, i am enjoying what i see.

10-14-2006, 12:48 AM	#8
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	.500 record will be a GIANT success for the team this year. True. I didn't give us any hope for a .500 season 2 months ago. Now we should be allowed to think of something more. We are 4-1! If we finish out of the playoffs I hope no one here will be too disappointed. Realistically I don't believe many if anyone at all figured we would be where we are right now. If we finish 8-8? Christ Almighty! That alone would be Mannah From Heaven! That being said.... SAINTS in the SUPERBOWL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want it all!

10-14-2006, 01:49 AM	#9
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Payton has done a good job of teaching these ballplayers to play like men. Play smart, dont make mistakes and good things will happen. Like we all said months ago, there were alot of holes to patch and its hard to believe you could take care of all that in one year to make this into a playoff team...so if it happens..WOW...but i will not be disappointed if we miss out because there is no doubt that we are headed in the right direction.