I can't help but be reminded of what happened in '02

sheldogg · 10-15-2006, 08:59 PM

While we're all stoked beyond belief at the skill and character of this team, Stockton said something at the end of today's game that gave me pause. We're 5-1 for the first time since 2002...

Well, we had 4 poor games immediately following that 5th win that year, dumping three of them. Then Delhomme made a fourth quarter completion to ensure a 2nd win over eventual Super Bowl champion Tampa...we were 9-4. Then that bastard Tice goes for two in a 31-30 game at Minnesota, converting and sending us into that miserable 3 game slide that would lock us out by virtue of Atlanta's tie with Pittsburgh.

The South is going to be exactly that tight this season. The cast of characters has been altered slightly - it'll be Carolina instead of Tampa. We've got a win over Atlanta which we didn't have in '02, and while we have the tiebreaker on them right now even if we dump at the Georgia Dome (they have 2 NFC losses, 1 in the South

), things could will get hairy around Christmas time.

What buoys my spirits personally is this team's resiliancy. The big comeback against Green Bay and today's 4th quarter heroics are things that the '02 Saints were completely incapable of. It'll be just like '02 in that 10-6 is the watermark record to making the playoffs, and from my perspective we must win one of those three games against the AFC North. And Baltimore may just settle that issue...they sure looked vulnerable against Carolina, and we finally have a true homefield advantage.

10-6 is very possible. 12-4 isn't at all out of the question. I'd chalked today's game up as a loss - but now that we know just how capable of winning tight games against good teams they are, am I off my rocker in thinking that we can't win: at Pittsburgh, at Atlanta, and at NYG? And what game should we all have our eye on, the game like Minnesota in '02, that could jump up and bight us on our asses? I'm thinking it's vs. SF...

RockyMountainSaint · 10-15-2006, 09:14 PM

Damn You dogg!

I thought the same thing and was afraid to jinx us.
Way to go.
If we don't win the Super Bowl............
It's ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pandora has opened the box!
Alot riding on your canine shoulders now.

sheldogg · 10-15-2006, 09:20 PM

Sorry RMS...I should just delete that garbage. I wasn't trying to dig up the painful past...I was trying to examine our present situation through that lens to see what was different. And there are three huge differences:

1)The difference between Brees and Brooks (HUGE)
2)A win over Atlanta at home
3)Evidence of a resiliant team.

You may have brought it up as a joke, but having beaten the Eagles, could we beat the Bears? In Soldier Field? Don't answer that if you understand the implications and don't want to exacerdate the jinx I just laid down.

RedNekSaint · 10-15-2006, 09:34 PM

Never, EVER, mention that Minnesota game again. I was there, I still get nightmares.

RockyMountainSaint · 10-15-2006, 09:44 PM

You may have brought it up as a joke, but having beaten the Eagles, could we beat the Bears? In Soldier Field? Don't answer that if you understand the implications and don't want to exacerdate the jinx I just laid down.

I was totally joking.

The thought of playing the Bears in Chicago?
Unless it is in the NFC championship game OOPS! I don't want to contemplate that right now.
Lord.
I am like a dog that has been coaxed with the promise of food only to be kicked in the head and sent home hungry with the sound of laughter ringing in my ears.
Or if you will.
Like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's football.
I am cautiously optimistic.
I am also overjoyed that we are 5-1 Baby!
My expectations for this season have been surpassed already.
Geaux Saints!

Tobias-Reiper · 10-15-2006, 09:46 PM

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sheldogg · 10-15-2006, 09:52 PM

This team appears to be the best I've seen in my 20 years as a Saints fan, and all your points are well-taken tobias. But what about the road games at Pit, Atl and NYG? Can we win one of those? And is it possible that this team can win every game they're supposed to? I'm a believer so far, but still cringing like good ol' Charlie the way RMS said.

jdiggy · 10-15-2006, 09:55 PM

I hate Minnesota. Words really can't express how much I hate the Vikings.

Back in 1988, I think it was the first time we ever made it to the post season, they beat us 44-10. My first lesson in humility growing up.

Then we lose to them after our 1st playoff win against the Rams. F-ing Buzzkill.

Their purple uniforms suck too!

sheldogg · 10-15-2006, 10:01 PM

Oh it's more than that...there's the 2 point conversion in '02, and don't forget them laying an egg against Washington in week 17 '04 which put us in a tiebreaker with them instead of StL for the last playoff spot, locking us out. Time and again those Viking bastards have kept us out or knocked us out of the playoffs.

RedNekSaint · 10-16-2006, 08:51 AM

I really hate the Vikes, plus the memory of our beloved Archie in a Vikings uniform at the end of his career makes me tear up.

10-15-2006, 08:59 PM	#1
sheldogg Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 40	I can't help but be reminded of what happened in '02 While we're all stoked beyond belief at the skill and character of this team, Stockton said something at the end of today's game that gave me pause. We're 5-1 for the first time since 2002... Well, we had 4 poor games immediately following that 5th win that year, dumping three of them. Then Delhomme made a fourth quarter completion to ensure a 2nd win over eventual Super Bowl champion Tampa...we were 9-4. Then that bastard Tice goes for two in a 31-30 game at Minnesota, converting and sending us into that miserable 3 game slide that would lock us out by virtue of Atlanta's tie with Pittsburgh. The South is going to be exactly that tight this season. The cast of characters has been altered slightly - it'll be Carolina instead of Tampa. We've got a win over Atlanta which we didn't have in '02, and while we have the tiebreaker on them right now even if we dump at the Georgia Dome (they have 2 NFC losses, 1 in the South ), things could will get hairy around Christmas time. What buoys my spirits personally is this team's resiliancy. The big comeback against Green Bay and today's 4th quarter heroics are things that the '02 Saints were completely incapable of. It'll be just like '02 in that 10-6 is the watermark record to making the playoffs, and from my perspective we must win one of those three games against the AFC North. And Baltimore may just settle that issue...they sure looked vulnerable against Carolina, and we finally have a true homefield advantage. 10-6 is very possible. 12-4 isn't at all out of the question. I'd chalked today's game up as a loss - but now that we know just how capable of winning tight games against good teams they are, am I off my rocker in thinking that we can't win: at Pittsburgh, at Atlanta, and at NYG? And what game should we all have our eye on, the game like Minnesota in '02, that could jump up and bight us on our asses? I'm thinking it's vs. SF...

10-15-2006, 09:44 PM	#5
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	You may have brought it up as a joke, but having beaten the Eagles, could we beat the Bears? In Soldier Field? Don't answer that if you understand the implications and don't want to exacerdate the jinx I just laid down. I was totally joking. The thought of playing the Bears in Chicago? Unless it is in the NFC championship game OOPS! I don't want to contemplate that right now. Lord. I am like a dog that has been coaxed with the promise of food only to be kicked in the head and sent home hungry with the sound of laughter ringing in my ears. Or if you will. Like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's football. I am cautiously optimistic. I am also overjoyed that we are 5-1 Baby! My expectations for this season have been surpassed already. Geaux Saints!
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10-15-2006, 09:14 PM	#2
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Damn You dogg! I thought the same thing and was afraid to jinx us. Way to go. If we don't win the Super Bowl............ It's ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pandora has opened the box! Alot riding on your canine shoulders now.

10-15-2006, 09:20 PM	#3
sheldogg Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 40	Sorry RMS...I should just delete that garbage. I wasn't trying to dig up the painful past...I was trying to examine our present situation through that lens to see what was different. And there are three huge differences: 1)The difference between Brees and Brooks (HUGE) 2)A win over Atlanta at home 3)Evidence of a resiliant team. You may have brought it up as a joke, but having beaten the Eagles, could we beat the Bears? In Soldier Field? Don't answer that if you understand the implications and don't want to exacerdate the jinx I just laid down.

10-15-2006, 09:34 PM	#4
RedNekSaint Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 51	Never, EVER, mention that Minnesota game again. I was there, I still get nightmares.

10-15-2006, 09:46 PM	#6
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10-15-2006, 09:52 PM	#7
sheldogg Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 40	This team appears to be the best I've seen in my 20 years as a Saints fan, and all your points are well-taken tobias. But what about the road games at Pit, Atl and NYG? Can we win one of those? And is it possible that this team can win every game they're supposed to? I'm a believer so far, but still cringing like good ol' Charlie the way RMS said.

10-15-2006, 09:55 PM	#8
jdiggy 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ol' Metry Posts: 239	I hate Minnesota. Words really can't express how much I hate the Vikings. Back in 1988, I think it was the first time we ever made it to the post season, they beat us 44-10. My first lesson in humility growing up. Then we lose to them after our 1st playoff win against the Rams. F-ing Buzzkill. Their purple uniforms suck too!

10-15-2006, 10:01 PM	#9
sheldogg Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 40	Oh it's more than that...there's the 2 point conversion in '02, and don't forget them laying an egg against Washington in week 17 '04 which put us in a tiebreaker with them instead of StL for the last playoff spot, locking us out. Time and again those Viking bastards have kept us out or knocked us out of the playoffs.

10-16-2006, 08:51 AM	#10
RedNekSaint Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 51	I really hate the Vikes, plus the memory of our beloved Archie in a Vikings uniform at the end of his career makes me tear up.