Reggie a.......

nedly · 11-06-2006, 07:22 PM

wide reciever maybe? I think if he could be sold on it the Saint's would be devastating on offense. I can imagine him on one side, Devery on the other, both running fly routs. Who are the safetys going to cover? It would be another way to stretch the defense, and allow deuce to run wild. The safetys would have to play deep coverage, negating their run support. The middle of the field would open up for the TE's and RBs. Who can cover both Devery and Reggie? Nobody I know of.
I think Reggie can be a great back but he needs lots of carries, needs to learn to use his blockers, needs better blocking, and needs to bulk up a bit, if he can. He could develop, but needs to quit playing flag football. Just pick a hole and run straight through it and don't look back. Do all the dancing around in the endzone. You should never lose yards on a run. It seems that he is always trying to take more than is there.

LongTimeFan · 11-06-2006, 07:31 PM

Reggie is a RB but has great receiving skills too, give him time and he'll prove himself, he has a lot to learn but has a great staff to help him along the way..

smyce · 11-06-2006, 07:47 PM

Not a good idea. Reggie is most useful in the backfield. The LB's and S's have to cheat up to respect Reggie's skill thus opening up the field. If you flank him out, the S's are no longer cheating and no doubt he would make a few plays, but for our offense he is best used from the backfield. AS LTF said, give the young man some time to learn the speed of the NFL and he will be a one of a kind talent.

hagan714 · 11-06-2006, 07:57 PM

He is fine right were he is. Drew will force teams out over reacting to Bush soon. If he does not then Duce will. Then Bush will have his day

AllSaints · 11-06-2006, 09:18 PM

WR... no reggie will learn how to do the cut backs and run threw the holes and not break to the outside he has to be patient thats the problem reggie is going to fast he needs to slow down let the hole open and go threw it not get the ball studder then go outside he will learn....

chRxis · 11-06-2006, 09:25 PM

i'm really starting to worry about reggie's ability as a running back.... we all know he creates mismatches coming out of the backfield as a receiver, but he's so worried about making the big play every time that he gets nowhere fast.... payton and the rb's coach really need to hammer into his head that he needs to square his shoulders to the line of scrimmage and run upfield.... even w/ his speed, when he dances around the defender has time to catch up to him and drag him down... if he starts running upfield, he wouldn't be able to be caught by too many players, but he gives defenders time to catch him by dancing around and going nowhere while waiting for the traffic to clear... needs to work on that really quickly... we don't need a really expensive decoy, we need a really expensive running back to complement deuce

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-07-2006, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by AllSaints

WR... no reggie will learn how to do the cut backs and run threw the holes and not break to the outside he has to be patient thats the problem reggie is going to fast he needs to slow down let the hole open and go threw it not get the ball studder then go outside he will learn....

A perfect analysis.

What people haven't figured out is that Reggie's talent cannot be coached. Either you have it or you don't. And Reggie has it.

But everything above can be coached. It can be learned.

Reggie has to learn that there are gears in this game. You hit the hole too fast and it won't be there. Same if you hit is too slow.

Reggie is so used to juking defensive players out of their socks, that the patience necessary to let the play develop hasn't gotten there yet.

But the coaches have to do their part too. I see way too many pitches and sweeps for Reggie. They need to run him into the line. And then run him into the line. And then guess what? Run him into the line again. They need to scheme plays where the blocking will create a hole.

It's practice, timing, and trust. And it must be learned and coached.

Reggie will get there. But he going to have to slow down a bit and trust the line to do their job.

He understands this intellectually. He's stated in interviews that he understands that the NFL is a "one cut and go" league.

But knowing it in your mind, and trusting it in your body are two different levels. He simply hasn't gotten to that second level yet.

But he will. And then watch out.

SFIAH

poydras · 11-07-2006, 09:29 AM

The problem would be that Reggie is experienced as a running back and runs routes a running back runs. He isn't trained to run wide receiver routes. Those routes require more than just speed. You have to know how to utilize that speed to get separation. I think we're doing well the way we're using him right now.

Euphoria · 11-07-2006, 02:50 PM

UGh yall look at him as a starting RB and he is not... he really has never been. He is a Specail Teams guy and loves returning punts and KO's. He is a third down back not suited for WR. Reggie is being used to pro-long the carreer of Deuce. Everything is fine.

thib82 · 11-07-2006, 06:35 PM

This trash about Reggie not being a runningback is getting old guys. HE IS STILL A ROOKIE! Give him time to develop his skill in the NFL, and he will be ok. How many runningbacks come into the league and dominate right away. Not many. It took tiki Barber a few years to figure it out, and look at him now. Preist Holmes wasn't always a great back, I bet not many guys here remember him on the Ravens as a backup to Eric Rhett?Shaun Alexander didn't come in and lead the league in rushing right away, it took a few years. Now there are some exceptions, but it typically takes time to develop. All I'm saying for the 100th time, is be patient, and give him time to figure the NFL out. the guy who said something about letting Reggie and devery run fly patterns down the field, that wont work. The reason that our guys are able to get down field for deep passes during the game, is because of Reggie Bush running routes in the middle of the field. He forces the safteties to come up, which gives Joe and Colston one-on-one coverage.

11-06-2006, 07:22 PM	#1
nedly Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 72	Reggie a....... wide reciever maybe? I think if he could be sold on it the Saint's would be devastating on offense. I can imagine him on one side, Devery on the other, both running fly routs. Who are the safetys going to cover? It would be another way to stretch the defense, and allow deuce to run wild. The safetys would have to play deep coverage, negating their run support. The middle of the field would open up for the TE's and RBs. Who can cover both Devery and Reggie? Nobody I know of. I think Reggie can be a great back but he needs lots of carries, needs to learn to use his blockers, needs better blocking, and needs to bulk up a bit, if he can. He could develop, but needs to quit playing flag football. Just pick a hole and run straight through it and don't look back. Do all the dancing around in the endzone. You should never lose yards on a run. It seems that he is always trying to take more than is there.
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11-06-2006, 07:31 PM	#2
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: Reggie a....... Reggie is a RB but has great receiving skills too, give him time and he'll prove himself, he has a lot to learn but has a great staff to help him along the way..

11-06-2006, 07:47 PM	#3
smyce 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Falls, IA Posts: 184	RE: Reggie a....... Not a good idea. Reggie is most useful in the backfield. The LB's and S's have to cheat up to respect Reggie's skill thus opening up the field. If you flank him out, the S's are no longer cheating and no doubt he would make a few plays, but for our offense he is best used from the backfield. AS LTF said, give the young man some time to learn the speed of the NFL and he will be a one of a kind talent.

11-06-2006, 07:57 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Reggie a....... He is fine right were he is. Drew will force teams out over reacting to Bush soon. If he does not then Duce will. Then Bush will have his day

11-06-2006, 09:18 PM	#5
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	RE: Reggie a....... WR... no reggie will learn how to do the cut backs and run threw the holes and not break to the outside he has to be patient thats the problem reggie is going to fast he needs to slow down let the hole open and go threw it not get the ball studder then go outside he will learn....

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11-06-2006, 09:25 PM	#6
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	RE: Reggie a....... i'm really starting to worry about reggie's ability as a running back.... we all know he creates mismatches coming out of the backfield as a receiver, but he's so worried about making the big play every time that he gets nowhere fast.... payton and the rb's coach really need to hammer into his head that he needs to square his shoulders to the line of scrimmage and run upfield.... even w/ his speed, when he dances around the defender has time to catch up to him and drag him down... if he starts running upfield, he wouldn't be able to be caught by too many players, but he gives defenders time to catch him by dancing around and going nowhere while waiting for the traffic to clear... needs to work on that really quickly... we don't need a really expensive decoy, we need a really expensive running back to complement deuce

11-07-2006, 09:09 AM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: RE: Reggie a....... Originally Posted by AllSaints WR... no reggie will learn how to do the cut backs and run threw the holes and not break to the outside he has to be patient thats the problem reggie is going to fast he needs to slow down let the hole open and go threw it not get the ball studder then go outside he will learn.... A perfect analysis. What people haven't figured out is that Reggie's talent cannot be coached. Either you have it or you don't. And Reggie has it. But everything above can be coached. It can be learned. Reggie has to learn that there are gears in this game. You hit the hole too fast and it won't be there. Same if you hit is too slow. Reggie is so used to juking defensive players out of their socks, that the patience necessary to let the play develop hasn't gotten there yet. But the coaches have to do their part too. I see way too many pitches and sweeps for Reggie. They need to run him into the line. And then run him into the line. And then guess what? Run him into the line again. They need to scheme plays where the blocking will create a hole. It's practice, timing, and trust. And it must be learned and coached. Reggie will get there. But he going to have to slow down a bit and trust the line to do their job. He understands this intellectually. He's stated in interviews that he understands that the NFL is a "one cut and go" league. But knowing it in your mind, and trusting it in your body are two different levels. He simply hasn't gotten to that second level yet. But he will. And then watch out. SFIAH
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11-07-2006, 09:29 AM	#8
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	The problem would be that Reggie is experienced as a running back and runs routes a running back runs. He isn't trained to run wide receiver routes. Those routes require more than just speed. You have to know how to utilize that speed to get separation. I think we're doing well the way we're using him right now.

11-07-2006, 02:50 PM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	UGh yall look at him as a starting RB and he is not... he really has never been. He is a Specail Teams guy and loves returning punts and KO's. He is a third down back not suited for WR. Reggie is being used to pro-long the carreer of Deuce. Everything is fine.

11-07-2006, 06:35 PM	#10
thib82 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Carencro, LA Posts: 211	This trash about Reggie not being a runningback is getting old guys. HE IS STILL A ROOKIE! Give him time to develop his skill in the NFL, and he will be ok. How many runningbacks come into the league and dominate right away. Not many. It took tiki Barber a few years to figure it out, and look at him now. Preist Holmes wasn't always a great back, I bet not many guys here remember him on the Ravens as a backup to Eric Rhett?Shaun Alexander didn't come in and lead the league in rushing right away, it took a few years. Now there are some exceptions, but it typically takes time to develop. All I'm saying for the 100th time, is be patient, and give him time to figure the NFL out. the guy who said something about letting Reggie and devery run fly patterns down the field, that wont work. The reason that our guys are able to get down field for deep passes during the game, is because of Reggie Bush running routes in the middle of the field. He forces the safteties to come up, which gives Joe and Colston one-on-one coverage.