At least Craft wasn't the worse DB today...
 

FRED THOMAS GOT BURNT, FRIEND, SUATEED, and DEEP FRIED.

Re: At least Craft wasn't the worse DB today...
 

You and I bro are fishing in the same pond.

I think most of this falls on Brees shoulder's....the guy has been great all season, but against AFC teams, hes tanked it. He took 14 points away from us today with bad decisions.....

Pretty much. I like Brees and all but if we had those two TDs it's a totally different game.

I don't even see the point in critcizing the pass D anymore. It's beating a dead horse. They suck and we know they suck. What's the point in expecting something different each week? They are what they are and the team has to have more of a sense of urgency to score to make up for the TDs our DBs will undoubtedly give up.

He's always lost to AFC North teams. Just look at his record. He plays those teams nearly every year.

That was one of the WORST displays of coverage I have ever seen. Brees had a brain cramp day, but did throw for 500 + yards, What did Thomas do?

We can not afford to give away yet another winnable game or we can kiss the division and playoffs goodbye!

I know there will be a lot of, well it was a good loss, we did good things blah blah blah.....Save it, we STUNK, period.

We need to gain some respect on the D side of the ball or no one will fear our offense knowing they can counter with the equvialent yardage and pts to beat us.

Yeah I'm edgey today, this loss stings!

One thing to consider for the off-season is that there are not many standout CBs in college this year, so any upgrades must come through Free Ageny.

You know what...I really don't know where anyone is getting this "it's a good loss" talk from anywhere. I've seen that phrase used by maybe one person. I think 99 percent of us know that any loss is not good.

We already gave up division. Panthers are in 1st due to head-to-head record. Like I said earlier, I don't see why so many are surprised that our D gave up so many big plays. Haven't they been giving up big plays for 3 or 4 years now?

I think a few on here drank a little too much of the media Koolaid, maybe even myself a little. We aren't an elite team. I believe we will still make the playoffs though. ATL and Philly lost, and both look like they are finished. I think as far as offenses go, Cincy has the best that we'll see all season.

Hello.....Nate Clements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

Well, if there were those guys usually get drafted pretty high since "shut down" corners are so hard to find. I don't think we'll be in a position to draft in the top 10 after this season.

Why are people blaming the defense for these last three loses(Ravens, Steelers, and Bengals)? The offense was the problem in these games. And why does Drew Brees not get dissed for throwing these three ints? He lost this game.

Fred Thomas burnt? I'm sure it looked that way on television, but I think someone is forgetting that there is this position called "safety" and that player is responsible for covering over the top. Neither of Johnson's long TDs were Thomas's fault. Does anyone really think the coaching staff would leave Fred Thomas out on an island covering Chad Johnson?

Are you kidding me? Did you not read the first 3 or 4 posts in this thread?

Saintsrule didn't say everyone. Most here are chiming in on the pass coverage. Which thread are you reading, GoldRush?


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Hey Safties were to blame from mental errors as well... but Thomas got into position once the WR broke and then stops, the WR takes off and Thomas sits there WTF. Horrible job on all of them, but he took the cake that day.

Thin damn thin... almost invisible is how I'd characterise our seconday. Lets hope they get inspired in the second half of the season.

1 sack and 0 safety help had a lot to do with what went wrong Sunday. Horrible schemes... the defensive gameplan gets an F. Face it, not many corners in this league can stick Chad Johnson 1 on 1. I thought Thomas did the best he could... give him a break.

Speaking of safetys, where is Bellamy?

I am not down on Fred Thomas. No one can really expect him to cover Chad Johnson. What I don't get is why wasn't Mike McKenzie the one getting burned by Chad Johnson? Isn't it common knowledge that the best CB on a team plays the best WR for the other team? I agree that the safeties did suck, and did not provide any support for Thomas during the game. The Saints also need a better pass rush if they expect to start slowing some teams down. The lack of depth is killing the Saints defense, they look to wear down in the 2nd half of most games played this year.

Fred definitly had no giddy up gear thats for sure. Safities were to blame big time. When the QB breaks containment and the WR is on an shallow out route it is the CB job to move in front and pick up the running lane after the QB is past the line. The safety is suppose to roll over up top and pick up the "go" route. We got suckered. both set up to stop the run. I have only one thing to say.
WTF
LET CHAD JOHNSON GO FREE SO A ONE LEGGED CARLSON DOES NOT RUN ON YOU???????????????????????????????
STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID :evil: