if we win this week do we not win the division

spkb25 · 12-11-2006, 11:38 AM

we can only loase one more game in the division which would give us to losses if we lost. atlanta has already loss twice to us. if we win this week we will be 10-4 with 2 games to go. even if atalanta wins this week they can only tie our record if we loss our last two games and they won their last two. we have beaten them twice and our divy records would be the same. so would we not win the division with a win this week. carolina can at best go 9-7. so if we win this week they can't catch us. i don't see how we don't win the division with a win this week. let me know peoples if i am mistaken in my thoughts.

saintsfan1313 · 12-11-2006, 12:02 PM

Im pretty sure we do, we are 9-4(damn that sounds nice), Atlanta is 7-6, and Carolina 6-7. Atlanta is basically 3 games behind, meaning even if we both have the same record, we still have the tiebreaker due to head to head. We are 8-1 in the conference, Atlanta is 5-4 and Carolina 4-6. Im pretty darn sure when we beat Washington, we will clinch the NFC South, or at least a playoff spot. Can someone come in and verify this....?

spkb25 · 12-11-2006, 12:13 PM

yes someone verify.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-11-2006, 12:30 PM

In the division, if there is a tie, tiebreakers are:

1) Head to head.
2) division record.
3) Conference record.

When we win Sunday, our worst record could only be 10-6. Carolina already has 7 losses. So when we win Sunday, Carolina is eliminated from the division championship.

When we win Sunday, our worst record could only be 10-6. Atlanta already has 6 losses. So when we win Sunday, the best that Atlanta can do is tie us. Atlanta has already been swept, so they lose on the first tiebreaker.

So when we win Sunday, we win the division championship plain and simple. No doubt about it.

More importantly when we win Sunday, we maintain the #2 seed in the NFC with the bye associated with it.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-11-2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1313

Im pretty sure we do, we are 9-4(damn that sounds nice), Atlanta is 7-6, and Carolina 6-7. Atlanta is basically 3 games behind, meaning even if we both have the same record, we still have the tiebreaker due to head to head. We are 8-1 in the conference, Atlanta is 5-4 and Carolina 4-6. Im pretty darn sure when we beat Washington, we will clinch the NFC South, or at least a playoff spot. Can someone come in and verify this....?

Division record is the first tiebreaker. The Saints are 4-1 in the division (with 1 to go), currently Carolina is 3-1 (with 2 to go) and Atlanta is 3-2 (with 1 to go). The only way that Carolina can finish with a better division record than the Saints is to win both of its games against Atlanta and the Saints. Also since we have 9 wins and Carolina has 7 losses, the magic number between the two teams is 1. So any additional Saints win or any addition Carolina loss eliminates Carolina from the division equation.

Our magic number with respect to Atlanta is also 1. Even though the Falcons are a game ahead of Carolina, they have been swept by the Saints.

So in the end all the Saints have to do is win Sunday against Washington and eliminate all doubt.

SFIAH

yasoon · 12-11-2006, 12:42 PM

SFIAH.....I believe all your facts are straight

I like the fact that you're saying "when we win".

Sunday could be a bit of a trap game, but I don't think our team gets complacent.

Also....remember our win serves two purposes. First, we won and that kicks ass.
Second, dallas is going to Atlanta on Saturday and boy are they pissed. They wil rip Vick a new pooper.

Really the only hope anyone has at the division is for us to lose the rest of our games.

hagan714 · 12-11-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by yasoon

SFIAH.....I believe all your facts are straight

Second, dallas is going to Atlanta on Saturday and boy are they pissed. They wil rip Vick a new pooper.

you got that right. 5 to 1 says:
IT WONT BE HIS HEAD ON SHOULDERS AFTER THAT ONE

Introducing a new look MV for the Panthers game the following week

Tobias-Reiper · 12-11-2006, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by yasoon

Sunday could be a bit of a trap game, but I don't think our team gets complacent.
.

I highly doubt that there's going to be a let down since next game is at home, and it's for the division... I don't think coach Payton is going to allow a letdown.

dberce1 · 12-11-2006, 03:06 PM

We win Sunday, we win the division:

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12-11-2006, 11:38 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	if we win this week do we not win the division we can only loase one more game in the division which would give us to losses if we lost. atlanta has already loss twice to us. if we win this week we will be 10-4 with 2 games to go. even if atalanta wins this week they can only tie our record if we loss our last two games and they won their last two. we have beaten them twice and our divy records would be the same. so would we not win the division with a win this week. carolina can at best go 9-7. so if we win this week they can't catch us. i don't see how we don't win the division with a win this week. let me know peoples if i am mistaken in my thoughts.
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12-11-2006, 12:13 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	RE: if we win this week do we not win the division yes someone verify.

12-11-2006, 12:30 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,774	RE: if we win this week do we not win the division In the division, if there is a tie, tiebreakers are: 1) Head to head. 2) division record. 3) Conference record. When we win Sunday, our worst record could only be 10-6. Carolina already has 7 losses. So when we win Sunday, Carolina is eliminated from the division championship. When we win Sunday, our worst record could only be 10-6. Atlanta already has 6 losses. So when we win Sunday, the best that Atlanta can do is tie us. Atlanta has already been swept, so they lose on the first tiebreaker. So when we win Sunday, we win the division championship plain and simple. No doubt about it. More importantly when we win Sunday, we maintain the #2 seed in the NFC with the bye associated with it. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

12-11-2006, 12:37 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,774	Re: RE: if we win this week do we not win the division Originally Posted by saintsfan1313 Im pretty sure we do, we are 9-4(damn that sounds nice), Atlanta is 7-6, and Carolina 6-7. Atlanta is basically 3 games behind, meaning even if we both have the same record, we still have the tiebreaker due to head to head. We are 8-1 in the conference, Atlanta is 5-4 and Carolina 4-6. Im pretty darn sure when we beat Washington, we will clinch the NFC South, or at least a playoff spot. Can someone come in and verify this....? Division record is the first tiebreaker. The Saints are 4-1 in the division (with 1 to go), currently Carolina is 3-1 (with 2 to go) and Atlanta is 3-2 (with 1 to go). The only way that Carolina can finish with a better division record than the Saints is to win both of its games against Atlanta and the Saints. Also since we have 9 wins and Carolina has 7 losses, the magic number between the two teams is 1. So any additional Saints win or any addition Carolina loss eliminates Carolina from the division equation. Our magic number with respect to Atlanta is also 1. Even though the Falcons are a game ahead of Carolina, they have been swept by the Saints. So in the end all the Saints have to do is win Sunday against Washington and eliminate all doubt. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

12-11-2006, 12:42 PM	#6
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	SFIAH.....I believe all your facts are straight I like the fact that you're saying "when we win". Sunday could be a bit of a trap game, but I don't think our team gets complacent. Also....remember our win serves two purposes. First, we won and that kicks ass. Second, dallas is going to Atlanta on Saturday and boy are they pissed. They wil rip Vick a new pooper. Really the only hope anyone has at the division is for us to lose the rest of our games.
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12-11-2006, 12:02 PM	#2
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	RE: if we win this week do we not win the division Im pretty sure we do, we are 9-4(damn that sounds nice), Atlanta is 7-6, and Carolina 6-7. Atlanta is basically 3 games behind, meaning even if we both have the same record, we still have the tiebreaker due to head to head. We are 8-1 in the conference, Atlanta is 5-4 and Carolina 4-6. Im pretty darn sure when we beat Washington, we will clinch the NFC South, or at least a playoff spot. Can someone come in and verify this....?

12-11-2006, 01:22 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by yasoon SFIAH.....I believe all your facts are straight Second, dallas is going to Atlanta on Saturday and boy are they pissed. They wil rip Vick a new pooper. you got that right. 5 to 1 says: IT WONT BE HIS HEAD ON SHOULDERS AFTER THAT ONE Introducing a new look MV for the Panthers game the following week

12-11-2006, 02:54 PM	#8
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by yasoon Sunday could be a bit of a trap game, but I don't think our team gets complacent. . I highly doubt that there's going to be a let down since next game is at home, and it's for the division... I don't think coach Payton is going to allow a letdown.

12-11-2006, 03:06 PM	#9
dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	We win Sunday, we win the division: http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...022e32e3b5a986