More playoff seeding fun...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-25-2006, 11:36 AM

Working through tiebreakers is hard work.

Not the Saints. That's easy. Dallas loses either of their last 2 games or New Orleans wins against Carolina and we secure the #2 seed and a bye.

No it's the #6 NFC seed which is going to have an 8-8 (or if can you believe it a 7-9) team in the slot. Of course the #4 Seattle Seahawks may end up 8-8 too. Wow!

So I saw an updated list here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2668613

What didn't make sense was this:

NFC scenarios

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¢ The Giants would be the No. 6 seed based on better record against common opponents than the Packers (Giants and Packers are ahead of other 7-8 teams based on better conference record).

The second part is OK as both the Giants and Packers only have 5 conference losses while the others have 6. But I figured out the common opponents here:

Chicago
New Orleans
Philly
Seattle

Now neither did to particularly well on the list each losing to Chicago, New Orleans, and Seattle. In fact only the Giants won one game against Philly. GB lost to Philly too.

But therein lies my dilemma. At the end of the seaons each team will have had 5 games against common opponents. Right now the Giants are 1-4 and GB is 0-4 with one to play. So if GB wins against a Chicago team that has nothing to play for, they'll be 8-8 with a 7-5 conference record, and 1-4 against common opponents with the NYG. As I see it it's identical to the Giants record presuming a win against Washington Saturday (which from the look of it isn't a lock by any stretch of the imagination).

So analysts, what am I missing. If all the teams go 7-9 when I see why the Giants get in. However at 8-8 it seems you have to go to strength of victory, which I haven't taken the time to compute.

Any thoughts? Or frankly does anyone care because it has virtually nothing to do with the Saints?

Green Bay in the playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!
(or the Giants for that matter)

SFIAH

poydras · 12-25-2006, 11:39 AM

We figured it that way too but according to NFL.com, the Giants have the tougher schedule and strength-of-schedule is the next tie-breaker.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-25-2006, 12:31 PM

Actually the next tiebreaker is strength of victory. So you only include the records of the teams that you actually beat.

Now interesting question: If you beat a team twice, does their record count twice?

SFIAH

LongTimeFan · 12-25-2006, 02:41 PM

As of right now the Giants are in, they get the #6 seed as it stands right now, I think they'll end up with it but who knows, the Rams are coming together some.

Halo · 12-25-2006, 03:02 PM

I voted none of them deserve it. And the Rams, I hope they sink with the worst Defense in the NFL. Haslett stinks.

12-25-2006, 11:36 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	More playoff seeding fun... Working through tiebreakers is hard work. Not the Saints. That's easy. Dallas loses either of their last 2 games or New Orleans wins against Carolina and we secure the #2 seed and a bye. No it's the #6 NFC seed which is going to have an 8-8 (or if can you believe it a 7-9) team in the slot. Of course the #4 Seattle Seahawks may end up 8-8 too. Wow! So I saw an updated list here: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2668613 What didn't make sense was this: NFC scenarios ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¢ The Giants would be the No. 6 seed based on better record against common opponents than the Packers (Giants and Packers are ahead of other 7-8 teams based on better conference record). The second part is OK as both the Giants and Packers only have 5 conference losses while the others have 6. But I figured out the common opponents here: Chicago New Orleans Philly Seattle Now neither did to particularly well on the list each losing to Chicago, New Orleans, and Seattle. In fact only the Giants won one game against Philly. GB lost to Philly too. But therein lies my dilemma. At the end of the seaons each team will have had 5 games against common opponents. Right now the Giants are 1-4 and GB is 0-4 with one to play. So if GB wins against a Chicago team that has nothing to play for, they'll be 8-8 with a 7-5 conference record, and 1-4 against common opponents with the NYG. As I see it it's identical to the Giants record presuming a win against Washington Saturday (which from the look of it isn't a lock by any stretch of the imagination). So analysts, what am I missing. If all the teams go 7-9 when I see why the Giants get in. However at 8-8 it seems you have to go to strength of victory, which I haven't taken the time to compute. Any thoughts? Or frankly does anyone care because it has virtually nothing to do with the Saints? Green Bay in the playoffs? PLAYOFFS?! (or the Giants for that matter) SFIAH
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12-25-2006, 12:31 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	RE: More playoff seeding fun... Actually the next tiebreaker is strength of victory. So you only include the records of the teams that you actually beat. Now interesting question: If you beat a team twice, does their record count twice? SFIAH

12-25-2006, 03:02 PM	#5
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	RE: More playoff seeding fun... I voted none of them deserve it. And the Rams, I hope they sink with the worst Defense in the NFL. Haslett stinks.

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12-25-2006, 11:39 AM	#2
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	RE: More playoff seeding fun... We figured it that way too but according to NFL.com, the Giants have the tougher schedule and strength-of-schedule is the next tie-breaker.

12-25-2006, 02:41 PM	#4
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: More playoff seeding fun... As of right now the Giants are in, they get the #6 seed as it stands right now, I think they'll end up with it but who knows, the Rams are coming together some.