What is the QB's job?

BlackandBlue · 06-16-2003, 05:44 PM

Billy how is the score of a Rams game 2 yrs ago, going on 3yrs, suppose to help the saints in 2003?

He also forgot to mention that in the game where the Saints won, he completed 21 of 32 passes, but in the game where we lost, he only completed 23 of 44 passes.

Hey hey, look at me, I can make **** up too!!! :P

[Edited on 16/6/2003 by BlackandBlue]

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-16-2003, 05:48 PM

I\'m going to explain this one more time. You can substitue any team for the rams, my point was the fans reaction to Brooks when we win and lose. Get? Got it? Good !!!

BlackandBlue · 06-16-2003, 05:51 PM

So in other words, you can pull numbers and stats out of thin air to prove a point?

YOU DA MAN!

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-16-2003, 05:52 PM

Your slow but you catch on........My Man !!!

And if you\'ll read, I said, fans calling for Bowman to start. Was he our quarterback then?

[Edited on 16/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

ssmitty · 06-16-2003, 05:56 PM

hey whodat, somebody needs to tell vick it\'s not his job to score points when he plays the saints..........smitty

lumm0x · 06-16-2003, 06:05 PM

I like Aaron Brooks. Nice kid, a load of talent and athleticism. He is a starter in this league right now and would likely have a job 1st or 2nd on alot of teams. He is tailor made for the offense Al Davis wants to run. I think Davis would get a semi just learning he could get him.
All I have to say right now is if I see the \"slick reverse finger roll\" he perfected so well last year I\'ll snap. I\'ve never seen a QB chuck it backwards so often when he wasn\'t in any danger nor was he hurried to get the pass off. He just couldn\'t focus on what he was being paid for.

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-16-2003, 06:13 PM

LummOx,

Do you think Brooks will ever be a guy to take a team to the superbowl?

lumm0x · 06-16-2003, 06:19 PM

I believe he can yes. If you look at alot of Super Bowl winning QB\'s they are usually leaders, but Brooks has that Doug Williams gun that could propel the right team in there. I think he definitely could take a Super Bowl. I think the Saints can get one, but that\'s thinking 50% heart in that.
We have the roster to do it. It comes down to our division games and the games against weak competition. First you need to beat the teams that you should beat. Then you need to be 110% against division opponents. A first round bye would be huge, as would not playing in Philly or Green Bay in early rounds. If the Sainst got 11-5, or 12-4 this year and matched up well after that, yeah we have a good shot. Anything less is a long, rocky road.

And no team can escape nor prepare for the death of anyone ....injury.

[Edited on 16/6/2003 by lumm0x]

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-16-2003, 06:28 PM

I too tend to think with my heart sometimes. When I first saw Brooks play with the Saints, I thought, man this guy has some incrediable athletic ability. He just impressed the hell out of me. I\'m refering to the games when Blake went down. He didn\'t really know the offense that well. I figured once he became the starter he was going to struggle and have some growing pains for a couple of years. To me this is normal with most QB\'s. He\'s been working with an excellent QB coach this offseason. I think this is the year. At least I hope so, so I can shut all the Brook\'s bashers up on here. If not, it\'s going to be a long season.

lumm0x · 06-16-2003, 07:10 PM

Hopefully this QB coach pays dividends then. He has some mechanical problems such as the backpedal, showing the play with his pre-snap motions, pocket awareness, etc. Those are things that can be taught. I also remember those first few games, the 49er game in particular. I was jaw-dropped in that game when he bought time and made plays at the end. I was amazed by him in that game. I think he\'s got it in his head that he needs to be a pocket passer. That he is ashamed of the mobile QB moniker. He seems hesitant to take off with the ball the last two years. He is too athletic to suppress that part of his game.
I\'d like to see him excel as much as anyone. There\'s not a player in this league without flaw. The QB\'s just get the most criticism because they handle the ball so much.

06-16-2003, 05:44 PM	#21
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	What is the QB's job? Billy how is the score of a Rams game 2 yrs ago, going on 3yrs, suppose to help the saints in 2003? He also forgot to mention that in the game where the Saints won, he completed 21 of 32 passes, but in the game where we lost, he only completed 23 of 44 passes. Hey hey, look at me, I can make **** up too!!! :P [Edited on 16/6/2003 by BlackandBlue]

06-16-2003, 05:48 PM	#22
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	What is the QB's job? I\'m going to explain this one more time. You can substitue any team for the rams, my point was the fans reaction to Brooks when we win and lose. Get? Got it? Good !!!
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06-16-2003, 05:51 PM	#23
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	What is the QB's job? So in other words, you can pull numbers and stats out of thin air to prove a point? YOU DA MAN!

06-16-2003, 05:52 PM	#24
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	What is the QB's job? Your slow but you catch on........My Man !!! And if you\'ll read, I said, fans calling for Bowman to start. Was he our quarterback then? [Edited on 16/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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06-16-2003, 05:56 PM	#25
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	What is the QB's job? hey whodat, somebody needs to tell vick it\'s not his job to score points when he plays the saints..........smitty
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06-16-2003, 06:05 PM	#26
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	What is the QB's job? I like Aaron Brooks. Nice kid, a load of talent and athleticism. He is a starter in this league right now and would likely have a job 1st or 2nd on alot of teams. He is tailor made for the offense Al Davis wants to run. I think Davis would get a semi just learning he could get him. All I have to say right now is if I see the \"slick reverse finger roll\" he perfected so well last year I\'ll snap. I\'ve never seen a QB chuck it backwards so often when he wasn\'t in any danger nor was he hurried to get the pass off. He just couldn\'t focus on what he was being paid for.

06-16-2003, 06:13 PM	#27
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	What is the QB's job? LummOx, Do you think Brooks will ever be a guy to take a team to the superbowl?
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06-16-2003, 06:19 PM	#28
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	What is the QB's job? I believe he can yes. If you look at alot of Super Bowl winning QB\'s they are usually leaders, but Brooks has that Doug Williams gun that could propel the right team in there. I think he definitely could take a Super Bowl. I think the Saints can get one, but that\'s thinking 50% heart in that. We have the roster to do it. It comes down to our division games and the games against weak competition. First you need to beat the teams that you should beat. Then you need to be 110% against division opponents. A first round bye would be huge, as would not playing in Philly or Green Bay in early rounds. If the Sainst got 11-5, or 12-4 this year and matched up well after that, yeah we have a good shot. Anything less is a long, rocky road. And no team can escape nor prepare for the death of anyone ....injury. [Edited on 16/6/2003 by lumm0x]

06-16-2003, 06:28 PM	#29
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	What is the QB's job? I too tend to think with my heart sometimes. When I first saw Brooks play with the Saints, I thought, man this guy has some incrediable athletic ability. He just impressed the hell out of me. I\'m refering to the games when Blake went down. He didn\'t really know the offense that well. I figured once he became the starter he was going to struggle and have some growing pains for a couple of years. To me this is normal with most QB\'s. He\'s been working with an excellent QB coach this offseason. I think this is the year. At least I hope so, so I can shut all the Brook\'s bashers up on here. If not, it\'s going to be a long season.
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

06-16-2003, 07:10 PM	#30
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	What is the QB's job? Hopefully this QB coach pays dividends then. He has some mechanical problems such as the backpedal, showing the play with his pre-snap motions, pocket awareness, etc. Those are things that can be taught. I also remember those first few games, the 49er game in particular. I was jaw-dropped in that game when he bought time and made plays at the end. I was amazed by him in that game. I think he\'s got it in his head that he needs to be a pocket passer. That he is ashamed of the mobile QB moniker. He seems hesitant to take off with the ball the last two years. He is too athletic to suppress that part of his game. I\'d like to see him excel as much as anyone. There\'s not a player in this league without flaw. The QB\'s just get the most criticism because they handle the ball so much.