The Key to Why We Lost

iceshack149 · 01-21-2007, 08:08 PM

O.k. now I understand. I was yelling for them to run Duece more throughout the game.

Awesome season. The Saints still have young playmakers and the future is bright.

leilung · 01-21-2007, 08:17 PM

I've said it all season...
Save the Turnovers! Win the game!

You cannot win in the playoffs with all of those turnovers. I don't care, WHO you are!

And what about the team just laying down in the 4th quarter. Made me sick to watch them give up! Not the way to end a run like this. Just not... :bnb:

SaintPauly · 01-21-2007, 08:32 PM

Ok. I agree on the turnovers, but you have to minus one, on the Lewis return. That was NOT a fumble. Bad field position cost us this game....and what caused most of the bad field position? Bad calls, and NO calls.

Add that, plus the fact that Fred Thomas couldn't cover a golf ball, with a king size bed sheet, and you have a recipe for disaster. Thomas, should have been cut, and replaced years ago. He has NEVER been a great cover corner, and honestly, he should retire.

39-14 guys. This is what ticked me off the most. This was not a game, it was a slaughter. The defense played great, until they reallized that the offense were more determined to give the ball back to the Bears, and decided the game was over. They were not prepared for this game. Period. Who's shoulders does that fall on again?

FlexDefense · 01-21-2007, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

he came up with a slight limp early in the first and never seemed the same. More than once i saw him go to the side line favoring that leg.

Deuce was definitely limping after each time he touched the ball. Might be that his effort against the Eagles took a toll on him.

FlexDefense · 01-21-2007, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Ok. I agree on the turnovers, but you have to minus one, on the Lewis return. That was NOT a fumble. Bad field position cost us this game....and what caused most of the bad field position? Bad calls, and NO calls.

Add that, plus the fact that Fred Thomas couldn't cover a golf ball, with a king size bed sheet, and you have a recipe for disaster. Thomas, should have been cut, and replaced years ago. He has NEVER been a great cover corner, and honestly, he should retire.

39-14 guys. This is what ticked me off the most. This was not a game, it was a slaughter. The defense played great, until they reallized that the offense were more determined to give the ball back to the Bears, and decided the game was over. They were not prepared for this game. Period. Who's shoulders does that fall on again?

The defense looked like they folded during the Jones TD drive near the end of the second quarter. They were on the field too long for their own good.

FLSaintsFan · 01-21-2007, 09:27 PM

Is all the criticizing going to reverse the outcome of the game? Will it help out in any way as we prepare for . . . next season? Well, then. Why don't we keep the negative comments on the shelf and offer up congrats to the Saints for a great and fun season.

SaintPauly · 01-21-2007, 09:59 PM

Uh. I apologize for the fact that I am not out dancing in the street, wearing my Bush jersey, high on life, that we "had a great season". If that's your thing, then great, knock yourself out. I am mad. We didn't show up, and this was the biggest game in our team's history. I mean, if you can't get yourself jacked up for this situation, then please, tell me when you can. As I have said before, if this game had been closer in score, then I would probably be saying the things you guys are, but it wasn't. It was a blow out. This team is better than that. They started flat, and ended flat. Yeah, great season, thanks for the memories, right on. Now, explain to me, why the team looked like they were playing in the first game of the season.

Stoopid512 · 01-21-2007, 10:03 PM

In the games against teams with normal->excellent defenses that the Saints faced, they lost because of the turnovers. It happened again today, just like it did against 3 of the 4 teams from the AFC North.

Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.

GoldRush26 · 01-21-2007, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Uh. I apologize for the fact that I am not out dancing in the street, wearing my Bush jersey, high on life, that we "had a great season". If that's your thing, then great, knock yourself out. I am mad. We didn't show up, and this was the biggest game in our team's history. I mean, if you can't get yourself jacked up for this situation, then please, tell me when you can. As I have said before, if this game had been closer in score, then I would probably be saying the things you guys are, but it wasn't. It was a blow out. This team is better than that. They started flat, and ended flat. Yeah, great season, thanks for the memories, right on. Now, explain to me, why the team looked like they were playing in the first game of the season.

I think that's the problem right there. You think that the team "didn't show up". You have to give the Bears credit. They won the game. We didn't give it to them. They beat us.

We started much better than the Bears did. We came out moving the ball downfield. I saw this team trying from the very first drive. The problem was that we got hit in the mouth for a change, and we kept getting hit in the mouth. We didn't respond well afterwards, but I wouldn't say that they didn't show up. The Bears were the better team. They forced turnovers. it's not as if Colston and Drew were being careless with the ball. They got the ball jarred loose with tremendous hits.

Bears earned the win because they beat us, simple as that. Only thing we could have done to prevent it was hold on to the ball. Did they fumble because they weren't into the game? Not in my opinion.

FLSaintsFan · 01-21-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Uh. I apologize for the fact that I am not out dancing in the street, wearing my Bush jersey, high on life, that we "had a great season". If that's your thing, then great, knock yourself out. I am mad. We didn't show up, and this was the biggest game in our team's history. I mean, if you can't get yourself jacked up for this situation, then please, tell me when you can. As I have said before, if this game had been closer in score, then I would probably be saying the things you guys are, but it wasn't. It was a blow out. This team is better than that. They started flat, and ended flat. Yeah, great season, thanks for the memories, right on. Now, explain to me, why the team looked like they were playing in the first game of the season.

01-21-2007, 08:32 PM	#13
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Ok. I agree on the turnovers, but you have to minus one, on the Lewis return. That was NOT a fumble. Bad field position cost us this game....and what caused most of the bad field position? Bad calls, and NO calls. Add that, plus the fact that Fred Thomas couldn't cover a golf ball, with a king size bed sheet, and you have a recipe for disaster. Thomas, should have been cut, and replaced years ago. He has NEVER been a great cover corner, and honestly, he should retire. 39-14 guys. This is what ticked me off the most. This was not a game, it was a slaughter. The defense played great, until they reallized that the offense were more determined to give the ball back to the Bears, and decided the game was over. They were not prepared for this game. Period. Who's shoulders does that fall on again?
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

01-21-2007, 09:09 PM	#14
FlexDefense Registered Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 36	Originally Posted by hagan714 he came up with a slight limp early in the first and never seemed the same. More than once i saw him go to the side line favoring that leg. Deuce was definitely limping after each time he touched the ball. Might be that his effort against the Eagles took a toll on him.
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01-21-2007, 09:10 PM	#15
FlexDefense Registered Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 36	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Ok. I agree on the turnovers, but you have to minus one, on the Lewis return. That was NOT a fumble. Bad field position cost us this game....and what caused most of the bad field position? Bad calls, and NO calls. Add that, plus the fact that Fred Thomas couldn't cover a golf ball, with a king size bed sheet, and you have a recipe for disaster. Thomas, should have been cut, and replaced years ago. He has NEVER been a great cover corner, and honestly, he should retire. 39-14 guys. This is what ticked me off the most. This was not a game, it was a slaughter. The defense played great, until they reallized that the offense were more determined to give the ball back to the Bears, and decided the game was over. They were not prepared for this game. Period. Who's shoulders does that fall on again? The defense looked like they folded during the Jones TD drive near the end of the second quarter. They were on the field too long for their own good.
FlexDefense Registered Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 36

01-21-2007, 09:59 PM	#17
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Uh. I apologize for the fact that I am not out dancing in the street, wearing my Bush jersey, high on life, that we "had a great season". If that's your thing, then great, knock yourself out. I am mad. We didn't show up, and this was the biggest game in our team's history. I mean, if you can't get yourself jacked up for this situation, then please, tell me when you can. As I have said before, if this game had been closer in score, then I would probably be saying the things you guys are, but it wasn't. It was a blow out. This team is better than that. They started flat, and ended flat. Yeah, great season, thanks for the memories, right on. Now, explain to me, why the team looked like they were playing in the first game of the season.
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

01-21-2007, 10:07 PM	#19
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Uh. I apologize for the fact that I am not out dancing in the street, wearing my Bush jersey, high on life, that we "had a great season". If that's your thing, then great, knock yourself out. I am mad. We didn't show up, and this was the biggest game in our team's history. I mean, if you can't get yourself jacked up for this situation, then please, tell me when you can. As I have said before, if this game had been closer in score, then I would probably be saying the things you guys are, but it wasn't. It was a blow out. This team is better than that. They started flat, and ended flat. Yeah, great season, thanks for the memories, right on. Now, explain to me, why the team looked like they were playing in the first game of the season. I think that's the problem right there. You think that the team "didn't show up". You have to give the Bears credit. They won the game. We didn't give it to them. They beat us. We started much better than the Bears did. We came out moving the ball downfield. I saw this team trying from the very first drive. The problem was that we got hit in the mouth for a change, and we kept getting hit in the mouth. We didn't respond well afterwards, but I wouldn't say that they didn't show up. The Bears were the better team. They forced turnovers. it's not as if Colston and Drew were being careless with the ball. They got the ball jarred loose with tremendous hits. Bears earned the win because they beat us, simple as that. Only thing we could have done to prevent it was hold on to the ball. Did they fumble because they weren't into the game? Not in my opinion.
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01-21-2007, 08:08 PM	#11
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	O.k. now I understand. I was yelling for them to run Duece more throughout the game. Awesome season. The Saints still have young playmakers and the future is bright.

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01-21-2007, 08:17 PM	#12
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	I've said it all season... Save the Turnovers! Win the game! You cannot win in the playoffs with all of those turnovers. I don't care, WHO you are! And what about the team just laying down in the 4th quarter. Made me sick to watch them give up! Not the way to end a run like this. Just not... :bnb:

01-21-2007, 09:27 PM	#16
FLSaintsFan Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida's Space Coast Posts: 27	Is all the criticizing going to reverse the outcome of the game? Will it help out in any way as we prepare for . . . next season? Well, then. Why don't we keep the negative comments on the shelf and offer up congrats to the Saints for a great and fun season.

01-21-2007, 10:03 PM	#18
Stoopid512 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hammond, LA (SLU) Posts: 8	In the games against teams with normal->excellent defenses that the Saints faced, they lost because of the turnovers. It happened again today, just like it did against 3 of the 4 teams from the AFC North. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.

01-21-2007, 10:49 PM	#20
FLSaintsFan Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida's Space Coast Posts: 27	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Uh. I apologize for the fact that I am not out dancing in the street, wearing my Bush jersey, high on life, that we "had a great season". If that's your thing, then great, knock yourself out. I am mad. We didn't show up, and this was the biggest game in our team's history. I mean, if you can't get yourself jacked up for this situation, then please, tell me when you can. As I have said before, if this game had been closer in score, then I would probably be saying the things you guys are, but it wasn't. It was a blow out. This team is better than that. They started flat, and ended flat. Yeah, great season, thanks for the memories, right on. Now, explain to me, why the team looked like they were playing in the first game of the season.