In missile's defense, I see his point of having two similar receivers in Colston and Jarrett. But we already have our deep threat with Henderson and we need someone else who can make catches over the middle to take some of the pressure off of Colston. And once again, you can not overlook the willingness and ability of Jarrett to block. If Reggie takes a toss to the outside, turns the corner, and Jarrett has handled the speedy corner on his side, there isnt anyone else on the field that can catch Reggie. Good blocking receivers open up the big play threat from the running game and with Reggie, a solid blocking receiver fits perfectly.

Oh I shouldn't have put those two names in the same sentence. Name one USC receiver who lived up to the hype... Keyshawn. His numbers and accolades don't lie.

You make a good point but WR is just as much a position in need of youth as any position on our defense. Colston should be fine, but remember now he has to deal with the pressure of being the formal #1 WR. Henderson can run three routes - 9 route, deep post, hitch and go. That doesn't help us get first downs unless we are looking for 20+ yard plays. Copper and Jones played well last season but can they really be counted on for 16 games to step up and demand some attention so that teams dont focus on Colston? Patten certainly has the experience and at times in his career has played terrific. But you do not know what you are getting out of him after his stint in Washington. And he certainly isnt getting any younger. Bringing in a young target to take the pressure of Colston or to look to supplant Patten in a few years is just as much of a "need" as taking a CB to take the pressure of David or to take over for McKenzie in a few years.

I think the beauty of the BPA approach that we can take is we can say Who is the best WR, CB, DT, and LB available? Outside of those positions, who is the best player overall player available? Does the best overall player even if he is a OG do more for us than the best WR, CB, DT, or LB? Yes, we take him. If not, then compare the BPA's available for those 4 positions and whoever is the highest on your draft board, you take.

[QUOTE=saintsmissile;128127]What I'm saying here is, if we end up taking a wr at 27, I would rather it be a speed guy. A guy who can stretch the field on a continual basis. /QUOTE]

The knocks on Jarrett I agree that Im scared of because of the bust potential ala Mike Williams. However, I disagree with this point of needing a speed guy. I think we need exactly what Jarrett and Bowe would give us - another threat in the 8-12 yard range across the middle of the field and solid blockers for the run game. We have Henderson as our speed, deep threat, home run, 2 catches for 100 yards a game guy. And Patten, in his years with the PAts, was also a deep threat. There is no need for another deep threat. With say Ginn and Henderson on the field with Colston, you have two guys running 9 routes down the sideline with one receiver coming across the middle. There is no use in our offense for two receivers running deep posts and fly patterns. We have that speed guy. Now, Ginn might be an exception because of what he could with catching a short pass and taking it the distance. But once again, with lining up Reggie at wide out, you have that aspect taken care of. I see your point of having too many "possession" wide receivers but I think you are incorrectly applying this word. 4.4 speed does not mean that a guy isnt a possession receiver (see Marvin Harrison). Guys like Steve Smith and Anthony Gonzalez in this draft ran that type of time, but they are well known and highly regarded as "possession" receivers. I look at it not from a possession vs deep threat standpoint but that there are three ways to get seperation and get open in football: 1. Speed, you simply outrun the guy trying to cover you. My issue with this is that in the NFL today, a 4.4 and even a 4.3 is becoming more and more a dime a dozen so you can not just rely on pure speed anymore (see Troy Willamson). Thus, I would prefer a "possession" receiver that can get open using 2. Crafty route running, as only the elite CBs can consistenly cover guys like this. or 3. Great use of the body to gain seperation, as only the elite and the bigger CBs can consistently cover guys like this. Thus, I see guys like Steve Smith and Anthony Gonzalez (route runners), Bowe and Jarrett (great use of large bodies) as being more valuable to our offense that already has the deep threats and the guys that can take the short pass the distance.

I could see Ross, if he is available, being a better pick than one of these wideouts because the position is so deep. But I think the need at LB is as much as the need at WR and that the players that will be available will not contribute initially and do not have the same long term potential as Jarrett. So if hes available, and Ross or Revis is there, then fine. IF not, then I think it will be hard pressed to find a better BPA or a guy that fills somewhat of a need for us.

I've said this before, and we all need to remember it, going into tomorrow. Payton, essentially, is an "offensive" minded coach. I just have a feeling, that with David, and Grant recently signed, he's going to go offense, with the first pick. I don't know why, just a gut feeling. They even speculated, at one time, that they were thinking about Zach Miller, or Greg Olsen, at the first pick. Now, TE is not really an issue anymore, but, if one of these guys is available, and they are the BPA, then do we take?

I do not want us to spend our first rounder on Olsen and dont think that Miller is worthy of a first round pick. I really cant imagine Olsen being the BPA when we are picking. He is a solid receiving threat but so is Eric Johnson. The problem with Olsen is that he is not a strong blocker and doesnt seem to show a willingness to block. There is a thread about "Who we DONT want to see drafted" and myself and plenty of others named Olsen as one of the guys we dont want to see drafted.