I Love This Draft

Euphoria · 04-29-2007, 02:58 PM

Not only did Payton out think and out play the other teams he got us players who will be stars... they are gems in hard to find places. Why do you think everyone was scratching there head. Payton GETS IT! You don't worry about the draft position and don't be set on filling needs. When you do that other teams know where you are drafting and will try and move up to get the guy you want before you. When your guy is available you take him... when the BPA is there regardless of what school he played or what national attention he got, you take him. Its about putting the right players in the right place at the right time. How else does a first year coach takes a professional francise to a confrence championship game.

You have to get players in to protect our francise... Brees, Bush, Deuce.

You score 28 points a game you'll go undefeated in the NFC South.

You also don't just build your team in the draft you also have to work FA like the Patriots and Payton did a pretty good job there as well. WE are the team to beat in the NFC.

ssmitty · 04-29-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Not only did Payton out think and out play the other teams he got us players who will be stars... they are gems in hard to find places. Why do you think everyone was scratching there head. Payton GETS IT! You don't worry about the draft position and don't be set on filling needs. When you do that other teams know where you are drafting and will try and move up to get the guy you want before you. When your guy is available you take him... when the BPA is there regardless of what school he played or what national attention he got, you take him. Its about putting the right players in the right place at the right time. How else does a first year coach takes a professional francise to a confrence championship game.

You have to get players in to protect our francise... Brees, Bush, Deuce.

You score 28 points a game you'll go undefeated in the NFC South.

You also don't just build your team in the draft you also have to work FA like the Patriots and Payton did a pretty good job there as well. WE are the team to beat in the NFC.

you should be more upbeat about the coming season..............

rmembreno · 04-29-2007, 03:41 PM

i love this draft too! and i'd like to address all who feel like we should have paid more attention to defense than offense....in order to remain at the top of the league in offensive statistics, you must continue to build year to year...i dont think the pittman pick was a head-scratcher by any means. reggie is the future for sure, and while deuce may be right at his peak, he's not getting any younger, and does have a history of injuries. nothing wrong at all with the O-line picks...come on! you have the best offense in the league and you must protect all you have invested in brees, bush, and deuce. if we hadn't signed simmons and david, then i would question not going after the poslousky (sp?) kid, but our LBs got the job done last year, and will continie to get better. DT was not deep this year, and our DL is not too shabby, so i think we are fine there too.

its just a great feeling to finally be able to trust your coaching staff. this is not the ditka or haslett administration. we are in the sean payton era, and we need to put our faith in him...he will take care of our team.

hagan714 · 04-29-2007, 07:05 PM

I would agree with you but I think Cleveland hood winked us more than once. They traded up in the second ahead of us an got Wright. Then in the fourth they traded in front of us an got one heck of an OC/OG in Mansfield Wrotto. We were that close to having completed our backups on the OL. Would love to know if this is true or just me. Where is our inside connection.

ScottF · 04-29-2007, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

optimistic. I hated this draft. I like Meachum. We picked two cb's who need a LOT of work and are projects. Same with the O Lineman. Don't get the oline at all. It was a position of strength and depth. Wasted picks imho. Pittman? Why trade UP to get him? He is a poor mans Reggie Bush, so basically, he will be a back up for years to come unless he shows something and we can trade him to a team needing a back. I don't understand any of the picks except the first. Kent State, Akron, Towson State and Wingate? Come on, I think Payton's ego in regards to coaching up small school picks went a little overboard. Don't you?

St- I admire your passion. I am a little pissed also, we were in position to take a known prospect, and then we move back, or grab a Div 2A guy. Baffling.
We'll know what these guys can do soon enough. Meachum is a 3 who will see time; don't see much for the rest

biloxi-indian · 04-29-2007, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

optimistic. I hated this draft. I like Meachum. We picked two cb's who need a LOT of work and are projects. Same with the O Lineman. Don't get the oline at all. It was a position of strength and depth. Wasted picks imho. Pittman? Why trade UP to get him? He is a poor mans Reggie Bush, so basically, he will be a back up for years to come unless he shows something and we can trade him to a team needing a back. I don't understand any of the picks except the first. Kent State, Akron, Towson State and Wingate? Come on, I think Payton's ego in regards to coaching up small school picks went a little overboard. Don't you?

Missile,

It is all about CAP space for the future. They found diamonds in the rough hoping to polish them! These small collage recruits won't cost as much in the SHORT term! Think about what the Saints spent in FA...Grant alone was not CHEAP. We have Will Smith coming up pretty soon!

Euphoria · 04-29-2007, 11:54 PM

If ya don't go after the small school recruits you don't get a Colston!!! The CB's are good. Sure they aren't the sexy ones from big schools but when they do the job... look out. LB's we picked up some in FA. I am so happy the OL was address it really needed to be. Some have the RB rated as the 3rd to 4th best rb in the draft... he was a steal!!!

saintsrule · 04-30-2007, 12:40 AM

Payton has the #1 offense in the league, and you can tell he wants to stay up there, in the top 5. You don't need a great TE, with the rest of those skill players. If this is who they wanted then I am happy they got them. I did think they would get the DT, Branch, but they didn't want him at that spot. So lets just hope they pan out like last year.

Memnoch_TP · 04-30-2007, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

optimistic. I hated this draft. I like Meachum. We picked two cb's who need a LOT of work and are projects. Same with the O Lineman. Don't get the oline at all. It was a position of strength and depth. Wasted picks imho. Pittman? Why trade UP to get him? He is a poor mans Reggie Bush, so basically, he will be a back up for years to come unless he shows something and we can trade him to a team needing a back. I don't understand any of the picks except the first. Kent State, Akron, Towson State and Wingate? Come on, I think Payton's ego in regards to coaching up small school picks went a little overboard. Don't you?

No, what I notice is that he is taking players that are SIMILAR to the players he has. We have all these special plays made up for REGGIE, not Generic Running Back #052, so who better to plug in if Reggie breaks and ankle than Reggie-Lite. INSTEAD of re-writing half the play book in mid-season we Plug in a unique player who can at least Sub, if not replace, another unique player. That isn't ego, that is genius.

A QB that is smart and mobile, not the biggest arm, not the tallest... Am I talking about Brees or the new Undrafted FA QB we just signed? The answer is "Yes". Starting to get the idea?

BlackandBlue · 04-30-2007, 08:28 AM

I was puzzled by a few of the picks (mainly Marvin Mitchell, that made no sense to me and I doubt he'll make the final roster), but I was equally puzzled with last years draft, and look how that turned out. Offensive line depth was a concern of mine, entering the draft. We walked out with Nesbit's replacement in Alleman, and Bushrod, who I know nothing about. But if these two turn out to be anything like Evans and Strief, my concerns are gone. Drafting Pittman was a great value, and I doubt that Stecker survives June cuts as a result. Obviously Meachem was a great pick for us, I expected him to go earlier. Before the draft, I said all he needed to do was land with a good coach that could work with him on his bad traits, and he could be something special in this league. And lucky for him, he was picked by one of the finest offensive minds in the game. I know nothing about Young other than he was rising up team's draft boards quickly, and less about David Jones.
Unlike last year, where I openly ripped into the staff for some of their selections, this year I'll take a wait and see approach.

04-29-2007, 03:28 PM	#2
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by Euphoria Not only did Payton out think and out play the other teams he got us players who will be stars... they are gems in hard to find places. Why do you think everyone was scratching there head. Payton GETS IT! You don't worry about the draft position and don't be set on filling needs. When you do that other teams know where you are drafting and will try and move up to get the guy you want before you. When your guy is available you take him... when the BPA is there regardless of what school he played or what national attention he got, you take him. Its about putting the right players in the right place at the right time. How else does a first year coach takes a professional francise to a confrence championship game. You have to get players in to protect our francise... Brees, Bush, Deuce. You score 28 points a game you'll go undefeated in the NFC South. You also don't just build your team in the draft you also have to work FA like the Patriots and Payton did a pretty good job there as well. WE are the team to beat in the NFC. you should be more upbeat about the coming season..............
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04-29-2007, 11:13 PM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by saintsmissile optimistic. I hated this draft. I like Meachum. We picked two cb's who need a LOT of work and are projects. Same with the O Lineman. Don't get the oline at all. It was a position of strength and depth. Wasted picks imho. Pittman? Why trade UP to get him? He is a poor mans Reggie Bush, so basically, he will be a back up for years to come unless he shows something and we can trade him to a team needing a back. I don't understand any of the picks except the first. Kent State, Akron, Towson State and Wingate? Come on, I think Payton's ego in regards to coaching up small school picks went a little overboard. Don't you? St- I admire your passion. I am a little pissed also, we were in position to take a known prospect, and then we move back, or grab a Div 2A guy. Baffling. We'll know what these guys can do soon enough. Meachum is a 3 who will see time; don't see much for the rest

04-29-2007, 11:39 PM	#6
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Originally Posted by saintsmissile optimistic. I hated this draft. I like Meachum. We picked two cb's who need a LOT of work and are projects. Same with the O Lineman. Don't get the oline at all. It was a position of strength and depth. Wasted picks imho. Pittman? Why trade UP to get him? He is a poor mans Reggie Bush, so basically, he will be a back up for years to come unless he shows something and we can trade him to a team needing a back. I don't understand any of the picks except the first. Kent State, Akron, Towson State and Wingate? Come on, I think Payton's ego in regards to coaching up small school picks went a little overboard. Don't you? Missile, It is all about CAP space for the future. They found diamonds in the rough hoping to polish them! These small collage recruits won't cost as much in the SHORT term! Think about what the Saints spent in FA...Grant alone was not CHEAP. We have Will Smith coming up pretty soon!

04-29-2007, 11:54 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Love It If ya don't go after the small school recruits you don't get a Colston!!! The CB's are good. Sure they aren't the sexy ones from big schools but when they do the job... look out. LB's we picked up some in FA. I am so happy the OL was address it really needed to be. Some have the RB rated as the 3rd to 4th best rb in the draft... he was a steal!!!

04-30-2007, 12:40 AM	#8
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Payton has the #1 offense in the league, and you can tell he wants to stay up there, in the top 5. You don't need a great TE, with the rest of those skill players. If this is who they wanted then I am happy they got them. I did think they would get the DT, Branch, but they didn't want him at that spot. So lets just hope they pan out like last year.
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04-29-2007, 02:58 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I Love This Draft Not only did Payton out think and out play the other teams he got us players who will be stars... they are gems in hard to find places. Why do you think everyone was scratching there head. Payton GETS IT! You don't worry about the draft position and don't be set on filling needs. When you do that other teams know where you are drafting and will try and move up to get the guy you want before you. When your guy is available you take him... when the BPA is there regardless of what school he played or what national attention he got, you take him. Its about putting the right players in the right place at the right time. How else does a first year coach takes a professional francise to a confrence championship game. You have to get players in to protect our francise... Brees, Bush, Deuce. You score 28 points a game you'll go undefeated in the NFC South. You also don't just build your team in the draft you also have to work FA like the Patriots and Payton did a pretty good job there as well. WE are the team to beat in the NFC.

04-29-2007, 03:41 PM	#3
rmembreno n.o. boy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: dallas Posts: 3	i love this draft too! and i'd like to address all who feel like we should have paid more attention to defense than offense....in order to remain at the top of the league in offensive statistics, you must continue to build year to year...i dont think the pittman pick was a head-scratcher by any means. reggie is the future for sure, and while deuce may be right at his peak, he's not getting any younger, and does have a history of injuries. nothing wrong at all with the O-line picks...come on! you have the best offense in the league and you must protect all you have invested in brees, bush, and deuce. if we hadn't signed simmons and david, then i would question not going after the poslousky (sp?) kid, but our LBs got the job done last year, and will continie to get better. DT was not deep this year, and our DL is not too shabby, so i think we are fine there too. its just a great feeling to finally be able to trust your coaching staff. this is not the ditka or haslett administration. we are in the sean payton era, and we need to put our faith in him...he will take care of our team.

04-29-2007, 07:05 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	I would agree with you but I think Cleveland hood winked us more than once. They traded up in the second ahead of us an got Wright. Then in the fourth they traded in front of us an got one heck of an OC/OG in Mansfield Wrotto. We were that close to having completed our backups on the OL. Would love to know if this is true or just me. Where is our inside connection.

04-30-2007, 05:12 AM	#9
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by saintsmissile optimistic. I hated this draft. I like Meachum. We picked two cb's who need a LOT of work and are projects. Same with the O Lineman. Don't get the oline at all. It was a position of strength and depth. Wasted picks imho. Pittman? Why trade UP to get him? He is a poor mans Reggie Bush, so basically, he will be a back up for years to come unless he shows something and we can trade him to a team needing a back. I don't understand any of the picks except the first. Kent State, Akron, Towson State and Wingate? Come on, I think Payton's ego in regards to coaching up small school picks went a little overboard. Don't you? No, what I notice is that he is taking players that are SIMILAR to the players he has. We have all these special plays made up for REGGIE, not Generic Running Back #052, so who better to plug in if Reggie breaks and ankle than Reggie-Lite. INSTEAD of re-writing half the play book in mid-season we Plug in a unique player who can at least Sub, if not replace, another unique player. That isn't ego, that is genius. A QB that is smart and mobile, not the biggest arm, not the tallest... Am I talking about Brees or the new Undrafted FA QB we just signed? The answer is "Yes". Starting to get the idea?
	"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams.

04-30-2007, 08:28 AM	#10
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	I was puzzled by a few of the picks (mainly Marvin Mitchell, that made no sense to me and I doubt he'll make the final roster), but I was equally puzzled with last years draft, and look how that turned out. Offensive line depth was a concern of mine, entering the draft. We walked out with Nesbit's replacement in Alleman, and Bushrod, who I know nothing about. But if these two turn out to be anything like Evans and Strief, my concerns are gone. Drafting Pittman was a great value, and I doubt that Stecker survives June cuts as a result. Obviously Meachem was a great pick for us, I expected him to go earlier. Before the draft, I said all he needed to do was land with a good coach that could work with him on his bad traits, and he could be something special in this league. And lucky for him, he was picked by one of the finest offensive minds in the game. I know nothing about Young other than he was rising up team's draft boards quickly, and less about David Jones. Unlike last year, where I openly ripped into the staff for some of their selections, this year I'll take a wait and see approach.
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?