think about it like this

pakowitz · 04-29-2007, 09:38 PM

with us on the board at 27... who was still available besides meachem that would really be worth that pick?

puz yea, olson, maybe, but other then that i dont see anyone that i would have really wanted besides either of those guys at 27...i know chris houston was still on the board as well but i didnt like him a pro prospect and i still dont..... i think its a great pick and one that we got value for b/c he was a guy who was rated mid first round by most everyone

28(28) San Francisco Joe Staley OT CENTRAL MICHIGAN

29(29) Baltimore Ben Grubbs OG AUBURN

30(30) San Diego Craig Davis WR LSU

31(31) Chicago Greg Olsen TE MIAMI (FLA.)

32(32) Indianapolis Anthony Gonzalez WR OHIO STATE

2nd round

1(33) Arizona (from Oakland) Alan Branch DT MICHIGAN

2(34) Buffalo (from Detroit) Paul Posluszny OLB PENN STATE

3(35) Tampa Bay Arron Sears OG TENNESSEE

4(36) Philadelphia (from Cleveland through Dallas) Kevin Kolb QB HOUSTON

5(37) San Diego (From Washington through N.Y. Jets & Chicago) Eric Weddle S UTAH

6(38) Oakland (from Arizona) Zach Miller TE ARIZONA STATE

7(39) Atlanta (From Houston) Justin Blalock OG TEXAS

8(40) Miami John Beck QB BYU

9(41) Atlanta (from Minnesota) Chris Houston CB ARKANSAS

10(42) Indianapolis (from San Francisco) Tony Ugoh OT ARKANSAS

pakowitz · 04-29-2007, 10:16 PM

thank you but this thread is about meachem... not about the rest of our picks...

Bobaganoosh · 04-29-2007, 10:58 PM

wasnt Evans a project last year? Didnt he start from day 1 and not only that, he became a dominant G. I like the fact that the Saints took athletes at CB who started for 4 years and all they need is a bit of teaching. That is what all the Saints assistants are...teachers. Everyone in the NFL is good, its just that some teams have better teachers than others...and the Saints are at the top of that list.

hagan714 · 04-30-2007, 07:34 AM

Alan Branch DT MICHIGAN

Ok you got a top 15 talent drop into your lap and your run defense stunk. When Thomas was out the DT rotation showed it need something. Well Branch is a whole lot of something. I like a WR. We will need the extra points again this year.

BooBirdSaint · 04-30-2007, 08:19 AM

Some analysts see's a potential trade in the Saints future with some of these works in progress...

"Impact: Wow. Meachem is generally considered the most talented all-round wideout in the draft, and he is a big steal for the Saints at this point. The question is whether they really need him. New Orleans already has several excellent wideout options for their pass-first approach, even with the recent loss of veteran Joe Horn. Meachem has the talent to battle for a starting job (even on this team), and gives an already-deep corps even more downfield depth. There is a chance he (or another Saint) could be traded, since New Orleans has more pressing needs elsewhere."

http://sports2.chron.com/chron/footb...?NO&DraftID=14

patdog · 04-30-2007, 08:33 AM

Come on, was the Saints drafting players to come in and start day one? No. For the first time in this team history they were drafting for depth. and with the later round picks that what they was doing. Meachem will start and with out seeing the two CB I can bet they can not be worst then Thomas. And to add I don"t think our needs on defence is so pressing that we need to trade anyone right now.

pakowitz · 04-30-2007, 09:16 AM

actually if mckenzie or david goes down.. then fred thomas would be our new starting DB

and i do believe we signed several veteran LBs and safetys

mikesaintfan · 04-30-2007, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

my point here is this. If Harper doesn't come back fully, we have.....Steve Gleason as our starting SS. If McKenzie goes down (god forbid) we have a rookie from Kent State as our starting CB. If Jason David falters or gets hurt, we have a guy from Wingate starting on that side.If Hollis Thomas goes down we have Whitehead or superstar Rodney Leslie as our starters. God forbid Fujita goes down we have enigma Tommy Polley as our starter or maybe Fincher could step in. Not nice scenerios are they? My point is what was more important to gettting this team better depth wise, drafting TWO project offensive lineman and yet another running back or bringing in some youth for our defense? You be the judge.

Kevin Kaesviharn and josh bullocks

Crusader · 04-30-2007, 11:43 AM

And don't forget Jason Craft who showed improvement last year.

Tobias-Reiper · 04-30-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

my point here is this. If Harper doesn't come back fully, we have.....Steve Gleason as our starting SS. If McKenzie goes down (god forbid) we have a rookie from Kent State as our starting CB. If Jason David falters or gets hurt, we have a guy from Wingate starting on that side.If Hollis Thomas goes down we have Whitehead or superstar Rodney Leslie as our starters. God forbid Fujita goes down we have enigma Tommy Polley as our starter or maybe Fincher could step in. Not nice scenerios are they? My point is what was more important to gettting this team better depth wise, drafting TWO project offensive lineman and yet another running back or bringing in some youth for our defense? You be the judge.

...if if if if if if if if if...

It's the NFL, not fantasy football. Every team loses someone at some position every year, and every team in the NFL is on the same boat: teams will lose 2-3 starters at some point in the season, and more often than not they will not have anyone the fans perceive as being any good as a replacement (that's why they aren't starting, right?).
Besides, If they drafted Some Player and, say, Fujita went down in week 8, you'd say "this guy is a rookie, he can't play the position, trade for someone, etc. etc. etc." regardless of who he was.

Last year people were freaking out because of the number of safeties., complaining there they didn't address the LB's. What happened? Payton got 3 LB's in August, Saints went all the way to the NFC championship.

This year people (well, you ) are freaking out because the Saints didn't draft 4 CB's and 3 SS's and traded for 3 DT's.

Until proven otherwise, I have complete confidence in this coaching staff and F.O.

04-29-2007, 09:38 PM	#1
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	think about it like this with us on the board at 27... who was still available besides meachem that would really be worth that pick? puz yea, olson, maybe, but other then that i dont see anyone that i would have really wanted besides either of those guys at 27...i know chris houston was still on the board as well but i didnt like him a pro prospect and i still dont..... i think its a great pick and one that we got value for b/c he was a guy who was rated mid first round by most everyone 28(28) San Francisco Joe Staley OT CENTRAL MICHIGAN 29(29) Baltimore Ben Grubbs OG AUBURN 30(30) San Diego Craig Davis WR LSU 31(31) Chicago Greg Olsen TE MIAMI (FLA.) 32(32) Indianapolis Anthony Gonzalez WR OHIO STATE 2nd round 1(33) Arizona (from Oakland) Alan Branch DT MICHIGAN 2(34) Buffalo (from Detroit) Paul Posluszny OLB PENN STATE 3(35) Tampa Bay Arron Sears OG TENNESSEE 4(36) Philadelphia (from Cleveland through Dallas) Kevin Kolb QB HOUSTON 5(37) San Diego (From Washington through N.Y. Jets & Chicago) Eric Weddle S UTAH 6(38) Oakland (from Arizona) Zach Miller TE ARIZONA STATE 7(39) Atlanta (From Houston) Justin Blalock OG TEXAS 8(40) Miami John Beck QB BYU 9(41) Atlanta (from Minnesota) Chris Houston CB ARKANSAS 10(42) Indianapolis (from San Francisco) Tony Ugoh OT ARKANSAS
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04-30-2007, 09:16 AM	#7
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	actually if mckenzie or david goes down.. then fred thomas would be our new starting DB and i do believe we signed several veteran LBs and safetys
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04-30-2007, 09:23 AM	#8
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	what about Originally Posted by saintsmissile my point here is this. If Harper doesn't come back fully, we have.....Steve Gleason as our starting SS. If McKenzie goes down (god forbid) we have a rookie from Kent State as our starting CB. If Jason David falters or gets hurt, we have a guy from Wingate starting on that side.If Hollis Thomas goes down we have Whitehead or superstar Rodney Leslie as our starters. God forbid Fujita goes down we have enigma Tommy Polley as our starter or maybe Fincher could step in. Not nice scenerios are they? My point is what was more important to gettting this team better depth wise, drafting TWO project offensive lineman and yet another running back or bringing in some youth for our defense? You be the judge. Kevin Kaesviharn and josh bullocks

04-30-2007, 05:09 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by saintsmissile my point here is this. If Harper doesn't come back fully, we have.....Steve Gleason as our starting SS. If McKenzie goes down (god forbid) we have a rookie from Kent State as our starting CB. If Jason David falters or gets hurt, we have a guy from Wingate starting on that side.If Hollis Thomas goes down we have Whitehead or superstar Rodney Leslie as our starters. God forbid Fujita goes down we have enigma Tommy Polley as our starter or maybe Fincher could step in. Not nice scenerios are they? My point is what was more important to gettting this team better depth wise, drafting TWO project offensive lineman and yet another running back or bringing in some youth for our defense? You be the judge. ...if if if if if if if if if... It's the NFL, not fantasy football. Every team loses someone at some position every year, and every team in the NFL is on the same boat: teams will lose 2-3 starters at some point in the season, and more often than not they will not have anyone the fans perceive as being any good as a replacement (that's why they aren't starting, right?). Besides, If they drafted Some Player and, say, Fujita went down in week 8, you'd say "this guy is a rookie, he can't play the position, trade for someone, etc. etc. etc." regardless of who he was. Last year people were freaking out because of the number of safeties., complaining there they didn't address the LB's. What happened? Payton got 3 LB's in August, Saints went all the way to the NFC championship. This year people (well, you ) are freaking out because the Saints didn't draft 4 CB's and 3 SS's and traded for 3 DT's. Until proven otherwise, I have complete confidence in this coaching staff and F.O.
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04-29-2007, 10:16 PM	#2
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	thank you but this thread is about meachem... not about the rest of our picks...

04-29-2007, 10:58 PM	#3
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	wasnt Evans a project last year? Didnt he start from day 1 and not only that, he became a dominant G. I like the fact that the Saints took athletes at CB who started for 4 years and all they need is a bit of teaching. That is what all the Saints assistants are...teachers. Everyone in the NFL is good, its just that some teams have better teachers than others...and the Saints are at the top of that list.

04-30-2007, 07:34 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Alan Branch DT MICHIGAN Ok you got a top 15 talent drop into your lap and your run defense stunk. When Thomas was out the DT rotation showed it need something. Well Branch is a whole lot of something. I like a WR. We will need the extra points again this year.

04-30-2007, 08:19 AM	#5
BooBirdSaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 273	Some analysts see's a potential trade in the Saints future with some of these works in progress... "Impact: Wow. Meachem is generally considered the most talented all-round wideout in the draft, and he is a big steal for the Saints at this point. The question is whether they really need him. New Orleans already has several excellent wideout options for their pass-first approach, even with the recent loss of veteran Joe Horn. Meachem has the talent to battle for a starting job (even on this team), and gives an already-deep corps even more downfield depth. There is a chance he (or another Saint) could be traded, since New Orleans has more pressing needs elsewhere." http://sports2.chron.com/chron/footb...?NO&DraftID=14

04-30-2007, 08:33 AM	#6
patdog 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: westwego La Posts: 194	Come on, was the Saints drafting players to come in and start day one? No. For the first time in this team history they were drafting for depth. and with the later round picks that what they was doing. Meachem will start and with out seeing the two CB I can bet they can not be worst then Thomas. And to add I don"t think our needs on defence is so pressing that we need to trade anyone right now.

04-30-2007, 11:43 AM	#9
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	And don't forget Jason Craft who showed improvement last year.