What are you most pleased with about this draft?

BRSaintsFan · 05-02-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Right on. D as a whole is easier than offense. Defenders are largely there to react to the game. Sure there are zone blitzes and different coverage packages, but it's nothing compared to the intricacies of an NFL offense.

I'm really pleased with drafting Usama Young. After reading his scouting reports, I think he may be the biggest pick-up of the draft. He's smart: Academic All American, He's Fast: Sub 4.4 - 40, and he started all 4 years. That (starting) is a big deal when it comes to making The Leap. That's why I'm not very high on Mr. Walt T. He's got 2 JuCo games under his belt, and this is the NFL.

During the draft, I want to say that Kiper or Mortensen spat out some stat about the success rate of players being reciprocal of their experience. That guys who have started 4 years have the highest success rate.

WhoDat205 · 05-02-2007, 03:04 PM

Missile, I wholeheartedly agree that DT is way easier to play than CB. I played NT in high school ball (cue the Springstein) and your two biggest assets are size and strength (I had neither). Smarts comes in about 42 on that list. But I'm really talking about the leap to the NFL. It's way more than just bigger, stronger and faster. It's also about money and fame and how you handle it. It's about listening to your coaches, learning and improving. How you interact with your team. Sunday night in the Dome is a long way away from NWMCC.

IMHO, we're selling Young short when he has all the measurables (speed, agility, okay size, expirience) and the non-measurables (charachter, brains) and jumping up and down for a guy who is really big and not much else.

Don't get me wrong, I hope that Mr Walt T turns out to be the stud we all know he can be, but I want the same from Alleman, Meacham, Young, Bushrod (great name), Pittman and all of the new guys.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-02-2007, 03:59 PM

... that we picked 27th.

hagan714 · 05-02-2007, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Missile, I wholeheartedly agree that DT is way easier to play than CB. I played NT in high school ball (cue the Springstein) and your two biggest assets are size and strength (I had neither). Smarts comes in about 42 on that list. But I'm really talking about the leap to the NFL. It's way more than just bigger, stronger and faster. It's also about money and fame and how you handle it. It's about listening to your coaches, learning and improving. How you interact with your team. Sunday night in the Dome is a long way away from NWMCC.

IMHO, we're selling Young short when he has all the measurables (speed, agility, okay size, expirience) and the non-measurables (charachter, brains) and jumping up and down for a guy who is really big and not much else.

Don't get me wrong, I hope that Mr Walt T turns out to be the stud we all know he can be, but I want the same from Alleman, Meacham, Young, Bushrod (great name), Pittman and all of the new guys.

Thunder Road, hold tight

I agree. As a fellow trench man myself snot nocking was the key. We danced around very little. swing to the left, swing to the right, with a stutter step thown in here and there. Left all the Travoltas moves to the glory boys.

Fleured · 05-02-2007, 01:38 PM

Drew must be frothing at the offensive juggernaut he has now to utilize. Payton and his scouting support have done themselves a favor in this draft. I can't pick out what I'm most pleased with even when convention would've told me they bombed because of the lack of DB focus early on.
I'm being warned not to get too jacked about the potential of this team but holy crow, even without the convenience of their typical yearly top 10 pick, they did damn good knowing what could improve the longevity of the team.
I'd feel a little more comfortable if they address their backup QB situation, but other than that, they are gold.

papz · 05-02-2007, 01:45 PM

Alleman. He's going to be a solid guard for us.

Bobaganoosh · 05-02-2007, 01:58 PM

As far as the QB situation goes, i think Payton likes the challenge of developing Tyler Palko. He's another guy with all the skills, just needs to learn to be more patient in the pocket and make better decisions. And i would feel more comfortable at the end of this season when the Saints go out and sign a veteran to come in and be the backup as opposed to a 2nd year guy with no experience.

WhoDat1456 · 05-02-2007, 07:27 PM

Let's not forget that picks from this draft were used wisely to fill needs before the draft even started. I personally like the idea that we could afford to take people with alot of upside simply because most of our needs were already filled.

blacksaint · 05-02-2007, 09:29 PM

The best move of the draft, 4th round pick Jason David CB, Indianapolis Colts.

WhoDat205 · 05-03-2007, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Young started X amount of games at Kent. The problem with that is IT WAS KENT!

Kent State is D1A. Last year they played Minnesota and VaTech plus their MAC conference schedule. It's not the SEC, but we're not talking about Millsaps either.

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

How many NFL caliber wr's was he going against in both practice and games.

At first glance, of the guys Young played against last year, these two were drafted:

Ryne Robinson WR MIAMI (OHIO) 4 19(118) Carolina
David Clowney WR VIRGINIA TECH 5 20(157) Green Bay

05-02-2007, 02:41 PM	#1
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Right on. D as a whole is easier than offense. Defenders are largely there to react to the game. Sure there are zone blitzes and different coverage packages, but it's nothing compared to the intricacies of an NFL offense. I'm really pleased with drafting Usama Young. After reading his scouting reports, I think he may be the biggest pick-up of the draft. He's smart: Academic All American, He's Fast: Sub 4.4 - 40, and he started all 4 years. That (starting) is a big deal when it comes to making The Leap. That's why I'm not very high on Mr. Walt T. He's got 2 JuCo games under his belt, and this is the NFL. During the draft, I want to say that Kiper or Mortensen spat out some stat about the success rate of players being reciprocal of their experience. That guys who have started 4 years have the highest success rate.

05-02-2007, 05:23 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Missile, I wholeheartedly agree that DT is way easier to play than CB. I played NT in high school ball (cue the Springstein) and your two biggest assets are size and strength (I had neither). Smarts comes in about 42 on that list. But I'm really talking about the leap to the NFL. It's way more than just bigger, stronger and faster. It's also about money and fame and how you handle it. It's about listening to your coaches, learning and improving. How you interact with your team. Sunday night in the Dome is a long way away from NWMCC. IMHO, we're selling Young short when he has all the measurables (speed, agility, okay size, expirience) and the non-measurables (charachter, brains) and jumping up and down for a guy who is really big and not much else. Don't get me wrong, I hope that Mr Walt T turns out to be the stud we all know he can be, but I want the same from Alleman, Meacham, Young, Bushrod (great name), Pittman and all of the new guys. Thunder Road, hold tight I agree. As a fellow trench man myself snot nocking was the key. We danced around very little. swing to the left, swing to the right, with a stutter step thown in here and there. Left all the Travoltas moves to the glory boys.

05-02-2007, 07:27 PM	#8
WhoDat1456 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 17	And... Let's not forget that picks from this draft were used wisely to fill needs before the draft even started. I personally like the idea that we could afford to take people with alot of upside simply because most of our needs were already filled.
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05-03-2007, 08:50 AM	#10
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintsmissile Young started X amount of games at Kent. The problem with that is IT WAS KENT! Kent State is D1A. Last year they played Minnesota and VaTech plus their MAC conference schedule. It's not the SEC, but we're not talking about Millsaps either. Originally Posted by saintsmissile How many NFL caliber wr's was he going against in both practice and games. At first glance, of the guys Young played against last year, these two were drafted: Ryne Robinson WR MIAMI (OHIO) 4 19(118) Carolina David Clowney WR VIRGINIA TECH 5 20(157) Green Bay

05-02-2007, 03:04 PM	#2
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Missile, I wholeheartedly agree that DT is way easier to play than CB. I played NT in high school ball (cue the Springstein) and your two biggest assets are size and strength (I had neither). Smarts comes in about 42 on that list. But I'm really talking about the leap to the NFL. It's way more than just bigger, stronger and faster. It's also about money and fame and how you handle it. It's about listening to your coaches, learning and improving. How you interact with your team. Sunday night in the Dome is a long way away from NWMCC. IMHO, we're selling Young short when he has all the measurables (speed, agility, okay size, expirience) and the non-measurables (charachter, brains) and jumping up and down for a guy who is really big and not much else. Don't get me wrong, I hope that Mr Walt T turns out to be the stud we all know he can be, but I want the same from Alleman, Meacham, Young, Bushrod (great name), Pittman and all of the new guys.

05-02-2007, 03:59 PM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	... that we picked 27th.

05-02-2007, 01:38 PM	#5
Fleured The NY Geaux Getter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 348	Drew must be frothing at the offensive juggernaut he has now to utilize. Payton and his scouting support have done themselves a favor in this draft. I can't pick out what I'm most pleased with even when convention would've told me they bombed because of the lack of DB focus early on. I'm being warned not to get too jacked about the potential of this team but holy crow, even without the convenience of their typical yearly top 10 pick, they did damn good knowing what could improve the longevity of the team. I'd feel a little more comfortable if they address their backup QB situation, but other than that, they are gold.

05-02-2007, 01:45 PM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,802	Alleman. He's going to be a solid guard for us.

05-02-2007, 01:58 PM	#7
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	As far as the QB situation goes, i think Payton likes the challenge of developing Tyler Palko. He's another guy with all the skills, just needs to learn to be more patient in the pocket and make better decisions. And i would feel more comfortable at the end of this season when the Saints go out and sign a veteran to come in and be the backup as opposed to a 2nd year guy with no experience.

05-02-2007, 09:29 PM	#9
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	The best move of the draft, 4th round pick Jason David CB, Indianapolis Colts.