What are you most pleased with about this draft?

Saintuary · 05-02-2007, 12:00 PM

For me I don't know where to start. I really get the giggles because we're still under the radar. I will start with our wrs. What team can cover, Colston, Mcknight, Meachem, Henderson, Patten? Then throw in Robert Johnson, I personally think this guy will Rock. Then throw in Reggie, Duece. HOLY Shiites. Unleash Hell or an ant bed fire drill.

This rarely happens to me but the Saints finally got somebody I really wanted, Eugene Lipscomb. Anybody know who Eugene was? That's right, Eugene is back and in the body of Walter Thomas. Reincarnation? They both seem to have had simular backgrounds.That's right Big Daddy is back and in a Saints uniform and I'm pleased.

What are you pleased about?

blacksaint · 05-02-2007, 12:47 PM

The one thing that sticks out to me with this draft is, within the next two years we will have the most dominant offensive line in the whole NFL. We will have the most unstoppable offense in the NFL, and the way they're finding little gems here and there on the defense and special teams, we will be the Patriots of the NFC.

BRSaintsFan · 05-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

The one thing that sticks out to me with this draft is, within the next two years we will have the most dominant offensive line in the whole NFL. We will have the most unstoppable offense in the NFL, and the way they're finding little gems here and there on the defense and special teams, we will be the Patriots of the NFC.

I agree and am certainly pleased to see us continually upgrading and adding depth to our O line. I am a believer in starting with the trenches to upgrade teams and we are certainly operating in that manner.

blacksaint · 05-02-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

I agree and am certainly pleased to see us continually upgrading and adding depth to our O line. I am a believer in starting with the trenches to upgrade teams and we are certainly operating in that manner.

They just don't see it, they're building for the future, if previous powers that was thought that way we problably be SB CHAMPS by now, keep the faith BR we're closer than most people think.

xan · 05-02-2007, 01:02 PM

I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's.

Bobaganoosh · 05-02-2007, 01:17 PM

Well, the fact that the Saints found 2 CBs with good size and 4.4 speed makes me happy. The only thing these guys lack is technique and the Saints coaches pride themselves on being great teachers. So finally some youth at CB. I like the fact that we keep stockpiling players for the O-Line...because you can never have enough players there. And the Saints still found ways to upgrade skill positions. They were able to prepare themselves for possible FA departures next year...Great job.

Saintuary · 05-02-2007, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's.

LBs lets see, we picked up Brian Simmons 6'3/240 who will probably start, Troy Evans 6'3/238, Trev Faulk 6'3/254, and Marvin Mitchell 6'3/249. Now put that with the mix of Fujita, Shanle, I mean this is pretty solid to me.

ChippySwans · 05-02-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's.

My EXACT same concern.

BRSaintsFan · 05-02-2007, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's.

I would also have like to have seen a quality DT added and I think there were some available at some of our picks. But as far as LB goes, this was not a deep draft and the talent and value just wasnt there for us to grab anyone. I think the point of this draft and the guys that we took is that at the time there weren't many players on the board (except maybe the first round) that would have come in and contributed as a starter immediately. So even though the lineman are developmental, as a backup, you are looking for 10 blows a game to keep your starters fresh. In the meantime, these guys are contributing and still being developed. The same with the corners. None of the guys we would have draft are going to start over McKenzie or David and probably wont outplay Thomas or Craft for nickelback. So your best bet there very well might be to get the guys with the huge upside but that need to be developed because early on all you are looking for out of them is special teams play (gunners, etc.)

Also, I have to disagree with the WR being easier than LB and DT coming out of college. There is a reason that WR usually have that "3 year" development until they reach their potential and the same reason that rookie WRs dont make huge impacts in their first seasons. The learning curve, talent gap, jump, and speed of the game is extremely difficult for WRs in transitioning from college to NFL. On the other hand, you do see LBs tend to fair better because they can be put on the field and still managed to make plays without truly understanding the nuances and complications of the game. The same with DTs. They simply need to understand gap assignments rather than recognizing coverages, blitzes, and hot routes.

WhoDat205 · 05-02-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

Also, I have to disagree with the WR being easier than LB and DT coming out of college. There is a reason that WR usually have that "3 year" development until they reach their potential and the same reason that rookie WRs dont make huge impacts in their first seasons. The learning curve, talent gap, jump, and speed of the game is extremely difficult for WRs in transitioning from college to NFL. On the other hand, you do see LBs tend to fair better because they can be put on the field and still managed to make plays without truly understanding the nuances and complications of the game. The same with DTs. They simply need to understand gap assignments rather than recognizing coverages, blitzes, and hot routes.

Right on. D as a whole is easier than offense. Defenders are largely there to react to the game. Sure there are zone blitzes and different coverage packages, but it's nothing compared to the intricacies of an NFL offense.

I'm really pleased with drafting Usama Young. After reading his scouting reports, I think he may be the biggest pick-up of the draft. He's smart: Academic All American, He's Fast: Sub 4.4 - 40, and he started all 4 years. That (starting) is a big deal when it comes to making The Leap. That's why I'm not very high on Mr. Walt T. He's got 2 JuCo games under his belt, and this is the NFL.

05-02-2007, 12:00 PM	#1
Saintuary 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 198	What are you most pleased with about this draft? For me I don't know where to start. I really get the giggles because we're still under the radar. I will start with our wrs. What team can cover, Colston, Mcknight, Meachem, Henderson, Patten? Then throw in Robert Johnson, I personally think this guy will Rock. Then throw in Reggie, Duece. HOLY Shiites. Unleash Hell or an ant bed fire drill. This rarely happens to me but the Saints finally got somebody I really wanted, Eugene Lipscomb. Anybody know who Eugene was? That's right, Eugene is back and in the body of Walter Thomas. Reincarnation? They both seem to have had simular backgrounds.That's right Big Daddy is back and in a Saints uniform and I'm pleased. What are you pleased about?

05-02-2007, 01:01 PM	#3
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Originally Posted by blacksaint The one thing that sticks out to me with this draft is, within the next two years we will have the most dominant offensive line in the whole NFL. We will have the most unstoppable offense in the NFL, and the way they're finding little gems here and there on the defense and special teams, we will be the Patriots of the NFC. I agree and am certainly pleased to see us continually upgrading and adding depth to our O line. I am a believer in starting with the trenches to upgrade teams and we are certainly operating in that manner.

05-02-2007, 01:15 PM	#4
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan I agree and am certainly pleased to see us continually upgrading and adding depth to our O line. I am a believer in starting with the trenches to upgrade teams and we are certainly operating in that manner. They just don't see it, they're building for the future, if previous powers that was thought that way we problably be SB CHAMPS by now, keep the faith BR we're closer than most people think.

05-02-2007, 01:02 PM	#5
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's.
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05-02-2007, 01:22 PM	#7
Saintuary 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 198	Originally Posted by xan I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's. LBs lets see, we picked up Brian Simmons 6'3/240 who will probably start, Troy Evans 6'3/238, Trev Faulk 6'3/254, and Marvin Mitchell 6'3/249. Now put that with the mix of Fujita, Shanle, I mean this is pretty solid to me.

05-02-2007, 12:47 PM	#2
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	The one thing that sticks out to me with this draft is, within the next two years we will have the most dominant offensive line in the whole NFL. We will have the most unstoppable offense in the NFL, and the way they're finding little gems here and there on the defense and special teams, we will be the Patriots of the NFC.

05-02-2007, 01:17 PM	#6
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Well, the fact that the Saints found 2 CBs with good size and 4.4 speed makes me happy. The only thing these guys lack is technique and the Saints coaches pride themselves on being great teachers. So finally some youth at CB. I like the fact that we keep stockpiling players for the O-Line...because you can never have enough players there. And the Saints still found ways to upgrade skill positions. They were able to prepare themselves for possible FA departures next year...Great job.

05-02-2007, 01:32 PM	#8
ChippySwans Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29	Originally Posted by xan I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's. My EXACT same concern.
ChippySwans Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29

05-02-2007, 02:03 PM	#9
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Originally Posted by xan I'm pleased that most everyone thinks that the draft didn't completely suck. I for one think that we could have used some draft picks on Linebackers, DT's, big school corners, hell, even move up in the draft to take a talent instead of collecting a bunch of purely developmental quality players. Not that there isn't the possibility of a Colston coming out of this group, but not likely. I think it's easier to run a route and catch a pass than it is to defend, and defense is where the team's greatest need was/is and I'm suspicious that we wasted picks on guys we could have invited in as UDFA's. I would also have like to have seen a quality DT added and I think there were some available at some of our picks. But as far as LB goes, this was not a deep draft and the talent and value just wasnt there for us to grab anyone. I think the point of this draft and the guys that we took is that at the time there weren't many players on the board (except maybe the first round) that would have come in and contributed as a starter immediately. So even though the lineman are developmental, as a backup, you are looking for 10 blows a game to keep your starters fresh. In the meantime, these guys are contributing and still being developed. The same with the corners. None of the guys we would have draft are going to start over McKenzie or David and probably wont outplay Thomas or Craft for nickelback. So your best bet there very well might be to get the guys with the huge upside but that need to be developed because early on all you are looking for out of them is special teams play (gunners, etc.) Also, I have to disagree with the WR being easier than LB and DT coming out of college. There is a reason that WR usually have that "3 year" development until they reach their potential and the same reason that rookie WRs dont make huge impacts in their first seasons. The learning curve, talent gap, jump, and speed of the game is extremely difficult for WRs in transitioning from college to NFL. On the other hand, you do see LBs tend to fair better because they can be put on the field and still managed to make plays without truly understanding the nuances and complications of the game. The same with DTs. They simply need to understand gap assignments rather than recognizing coverages, blitzes, and hot routes.

05-02-2007, 02:22 PM	#10
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan Also, I have to disagree with the WR being easier than LB and DT coming out of college. There is a reason that WR usually have that "3 year" development until they reach their potential and the same reason that rookie WRs dont make huge impacts in their first seasons. The learning curve, talent gap, jump, and speed of the game is extremely difficult for WRs in transitioning from college to NFL. On the other hand, you do see LBs tend to fair better because they can be put on the field and still managed to make plays without truly understanding the nuances and complications of the game. The same with DTs. They simply need to understand gap assignments rather than recognizing coverages, blitzes, and hot routes. Right on. D as a whole is easier than offense. Defenders are largely there to react to the game. Sure there are zone blitzes and different coverage packages, but it's nothing compared to the intricacies of an NFL offense. I'm really pleased with drafting Usama Young. After reading his scouting reports, I think he may be the biggest pick-up of the draft. He's smart: Academic All American, He's Fast: Sub 4.4 - 40, and he started all 4 years. That (starting) is a big deal when it comes to making The Leap. That's why I'm not very high on Mr. Walt T. He's got 2 JuCo games under his belt, and this is the NFL.