worried about the future of deuce

hagan714 · 05-12-2007, 09:08 AM

Wait and see. I do not think Pittman is going to hurt Duce at all. We needed a RB for the rotation. Pittman fell into our laps. Why would the saints weaken a rotation that needed to upgrade? Besides with the cap increase over the next few years make his contract less of an issue. We looked at the figures when he signed and thought it was a lot. But looking into the future now it is not so bad. Just like Grants. You have have to get over the loaded front ends first. Next year is going to be interest with all the FA we are going to have.
FA in 2008
QB - Jamie Martin
RB - Aaron Stecker
FB - Keith Joseph signed or exclusive-rights
WR - Devery Henderson
WR - Terrance Copper RFA
WR - Jamal Jones signed or exclusive-rights
TE - Billy Miller
TE - Eric Johnson
TE - John Owens Signed or Exclusive Rights
C/G - Jonathan Goodwin
G - Jamar Nesbit
G - Augie Hoffman signed or exclusive rights
T - Rob Petitti signed or exclusive rights
T - Chad Setterstrom signed or exclusive rights
DT - Brian Young
DT - Rodney Leisle RFA
DE - Charles Grant 2007 Franchise Tag
DE - Josh Cooper signed or exclusive rights
MLB - Mark Simoneau
SLB - Alfred Fincher
CB - DeJuan Groce
CB - Fred Thomas
S - Steve Gleason

2009 FA
WR - Marques Colston
TE - Mark Campbell
RT - Jon Stinchcomb
RT - Zach Strief
OG - Jahri Evans
DE - Rob Ninkovich
DT - Willie Whitehead
DT - Antwan Lake
CB - Jason Craft
KR - Michael Lewis
P - Steve Weatherford

2012 will be Big bucks
QB - Drew Brees
RB - Reggie Bush
LT - Jammal Brown

Oh yeah welcome visegripp

CheramieIII · 05-12-2007, 09:45 AM

Pittman was selected because of his value on the board at the time and the fact that Stecker is getting up there in age.

Neither Pittman or Bush could take the pounding like Deuce can. Deuce is our every down back.

ScottF · 05-12-2007, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Wait and see. I do not think Pittman is going to hurt Duce at all. We needed a RB for the rotation. Pittman fell into our laps. Why would the saints weaken a rotation that needed to upgrade? Besides with the cap increase over the next few years make his contract less of an issue. We looked at the figures when he signed and thought it was a lot. But looking into the future now it is not so bad. Just like Grants. You have have to get over the loaded front ends first. Next year is going to be interest with

2012 will be Big bucks
QB - Drew Brees
RB - Reggie Bush
LT - Jammal Brown

Oh yeah welcome visegripp

Isn't Deuce signed until 2011?

LongTimeFan · 05-12-2007, 11:39 AM

Welcome to the BlackandGold Vise.....

IMO Deuce isn't going to leave the Saints anytime soon, Pittman will never be an every down back, something you must have in the NFL, as said Bush can't take the punishment by playing every down where Deuce has proved that he can..
Coach Payton knows a good thing when he sees it, we all know that Deuce plays a huge part in the Saints success , Saints camp will figure out a way to hold on to the Deuce..

If you have any questions vise about the site please ask...

ScottyRo · 05-12-2007, 11:43 AM

I belive Deuce's contract runs through 2012. So even if we traded him after the '09 season, the Saints would take a $5.4M cap hit at $1.8M per season signing bonus.

I would guess that Deuce i not going anywhere for a long, long time.

MatthewT · 05-13-2007, 08:39 PM

I don't think Deuce is going anywhere soon, but I do see some valid points on why he may. Maybe not so much his age, but as far as seasons played he is starting to get up there. The career of a RB is usually short. He could very well have just another season or two before he is either out of the league or possibly being a role player. Hopefully he can go strong for another 5 or 6 years, but it would go against some pretty big odds. In no way do I see Pittman as taking over for him, I see Pittman strictly as a possible replacement for Aaron Stecker. The most interesting thing is to see if the Saints will shift more of the load to Reggie Bush. Maybe Reggie Bush will always be that "specialist" type of guy, but you never know. I am not sure how long Bush will be content with his role. All RB' s want to have that chance to carry the load. Hopefully everyone will be happy and we can win a couple superbowls...

WhoDat205 · 05-14-2007, 08:26 AM

Bottom line, deuce will have to take a pay cut. But if there's anyone that will it's him. He's got his dealerships in Jackson and various ventures in MS and LA, plus he likes going home to Morton on off days. More importantly, I think Deuce (unlike Horn) loves the saints and the fans almost as much as we love him, and he realizes that he can go down as the face of the francise. Maybe even a FO job in the future.

I predict he sticks around and takes a cut in pay in a few years coupled with a gradual transfer of carring duties to Reggie.

05-12-2007, 09:08 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Wait and see. I do not think Pittman is going to hurt Duce at all. We needed a RB for the rotation. Pittman fell into our laps. Why would the saints weaken a rotation that needed to upgrade? Besides with the cap increase over the next few years make his contract less of an issue. We looked at the figures when he signed and thought it was a lot. But looking into the future now it is not so bad. Just like Grants. You have have to get over the loaded front ends first. Next year is going to be interest with all the FA we are going to have. FA in 2008 QB - Jamie Martin RB - Aaron Stecker FB - Keith Joseph signed or exclusive-rights WR - Devery Henderson WR - Terrance Copper RFA WR - Jamal Jones signed or exclusive-rights TE - Billy Miller TE - Eric Johnson TE - John Owens Signed or Exclusive Rights C/G - Jonathan Goodwin G - Jamar Nesbit G - Augie Hoffman signed or exclusive rights T - Rob Petitti signed or exclusive rights T - Chad Setterstrom signed or exclusive rights DT - Brian Young DT - Rodney Leisle RFA DE - Charles Grant 2007 Franchise Tag DE - Josh Cooper signed or exclusive rights MLB - Mark Simoneau SLB - Alfred Fincher CB - DeJuan Groce CB - Fred Thomas S - Steve Gleason 2009 FA WR - Marques Colston TE - Mark Campbell RT - Jon Stinchcomb RT - Zach Strief OG - Jahri Evans DE - Rob Ninkovich DT - Willie Whitehead DT - Antwan Lake CB - Jason Craft KR - Michael Lewis P - Steve Weatherford 2012 will be Big bucks QB - Drew Brees RB - Reggie Bush LT - Jammal Brown Oh yeah welcome visegripp
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05-12-2007, 11:01 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by hagan714 Wait and see. I do not think Pittman is going to hurt Duce at all. We needed a RB for the rotation. Pittman fell into our laps. Why would the saints weaken a rotation that needed to upgrade? Besides with the cap increase over the next few years make his contract less of an issue. We looked at the figures when he signed and thought it was a lot. But looking into the future now it is not so bad. Just like Grants. You have have to get over the loaded front ends first. Next year is going to be interest with 2012 will be Big bucks QB - Drew Brees RB - Reggie Bush LT - Jammal Brown Oh yeah welcome visegripp Isn't Deuce signed until 2011?

05-12-2007, 09:45 AM	#2
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Pittman was selected because of his value on the board at the time and the fact that Stecker is getting up there in age. Neither Pittman or Bush could take the pounding like Deuce can. Deuce is our every down back.

05-12-2007, 11:39 AM	#4
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Welcome to the BlackandGold Vise..... IMO Deuce isn't going to leave the Saints anytime soon, Pittman will never be an every down back, something you must have in the NFL, as said Bush can't take the punishment by playing every down where Deuce has proved that he can.. Coach Payton knows a good thing when he sees it, we all know that Deuce plays a huge part in the Saints success , Saints camp will figure out a way to hold on to the Deuce.. If you have any questions vise about the site please ask...

05-12-2007, 11:43 AM	#5
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	I belive Deuce's contract runs through 2012. So even if we traded him after the '09 season, the Saints would take a $5.4M cap hit at $1.8M per season signing bonus. I would guess that Deuce i not going anywhere for a long, long time.

05-13-2007, 08:39 PM	#6
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	I don't think Deuce is going anywhere soon, but I do see some valid points on why he may. Maybe not so much his age, but as far as seasons played he is starting to get up there. The career of a RB is usually short. He could very well have just another season or two before he is either out of the league or possibly being a role player. Hopefully he can go strong for another 5 or 6 years, but it would go against some pretty big odds. In no way do I see Pittman as taking over for him, I see Pittman strictly as a possible replacement for Aaron Stecker. The most interesting thing is to see if the Saints will shift more of the load to Reggie Bush. Maybe Reggie Bush will always be that "specialist" type of guy, but you never know. I am not sure how long Bush will be content with his role. All RB' s want to have that chance to carry the load. Hopefully everyone will be happy and we can win a couple superbowls...

05-14-2007, 08:26 AM	#7
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Bottom line, deuce will have to take a pay cut. But if there's anyone that will it's him. He's got his dealerships in Jackson and various ventures in MS and LA, plus he likes going home to Morton on off days. More importantly, I think Deuce (unlike Horn) loves the saints and the fans almost as much as we love him, and he realizes that he can go down as the face of the francise. Maybe even a FO job in the future. I predict he sticks around and takes a cut in pay in a few years coupled with a gradual transfer of carring duties to Reggie.