Horn Speaks

SoulStar · 05-15-2007, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

I liked Joe Horn, but have we forgotten that Joe and the local media was the main reason we lost one of the greatest players in Saints history, and one of the greatest OLT in NFL history in Willie Roaf. If not for the Joe Horn sleeping with his wife, and Roaf wife having Horn's baby, the sure fire HOF player would have retired a Saint. Call me bitter, but I never forgave him for that. If you can't trust your team mate around your family, than when exactly can you trust him.

Not everyone who loves the Saints loved Joe Horn.

It's this very reason why I never became a Joe Horn fan. It's this very reason that I screamed when the front office paid him over LeCharles Bentley who also had a few issues with Joe Horn. But hay, he is gone....I hope for his sake he wont mess around with any of Mexico's women. That can be a very dangerous thing.

SapperSaint · 05-15-2007, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

I liked Joe Horn, but have we forgotten that Joe and the local media was the main reason we lost one of the greatest players in Saints history, and one of the greatest OLT in NFL history in Willie Roaf. If not for the Joe Horn sleeping with his wife, and Roaf wife having Horn's baby, the sure fire HOF player would have retired a Saint. Call me bitter, but I never forgave him for that. If you can't trust your team mate around your family, than when exactly can you trust him.

I did not know that. Talk about a jaw dropper on my side of the screen.

The one thing I always noticed about Joe, was that he thought he was not replaceable. We all have jobs, and no matter how important or great YOU THINK YOU ARE, there is always someone that can take your spot.

Joe is a thing of the past, we won with him(not a whole lot), we won without him(made it to the NFC Championship game), and this year we will beat him, without him.

hagan714 · 05-15-2007, 08:11 AM

On the field you had to respect him. Ok he had a QB that could not get pass the second read and always threw to him. But the defenses knew that and still could not stop him.
Off the field I agree. The roaf thing, was that ever proven? The loss to the saints from that has always left a negative feeling toward him. Just or not, it is there. we lost all of the key OL and DL in such a short peroid of time no wonder we stunk up the dome and the rest of the NFL.
Joe on the field I appauled. Off the field I just do not know.

nedly · 05-15-2007, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATNJ

Lets get this out of the way... We all love Joe Horn and what he has done for our organization. But lets look at things from a broader spectrum. We had an idiot at QB that had one season of greatness that he didnt really deserve credit for. We had a pretty good offense with Duece opening up the passing lanes and a QB that well actually got real lucky that Blake got hurt. Believe it or not Blake was solid in that season and a solid comprehensive leader. Joe Horn has been the gift recipient of being a get my tail out of a sack go to guy. He is way to big for his britches so to speak. Aaron threw lots of junk to him because we had no one else open to throw too. If you look at those games you will see just how crazy looking our play progression was. Nothing looked planned just lucky to get out of there with a positive gain. Joe Horn is bigger than the team in his own mind. Bigger than anyone on last years roster. While I respect his courage and hard work maybe a little humility would have kept him here for a SB ring. We never had a Superstar QB and now he has one(Or Not). What do think will happen in that locker room when he is not happy that Vick chose to run when he was open five times in the seam? Best to look at it as a cancer. He will never be able to exist the way he did in NO with Vick. We loved him because he gave us hope when all else seemed to fail. But when it all boils down we will be able to compare the 2007 Vicks to the 2005 Eagles. There is only room on a ship for one captain and that is the man that plots the corse.

I hate Joe Horn. I hate all me first players. I've hated him for the last three years.

05-15-2007, 02:28 AM	#1
SoulStar 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arlington Tx Posts: 157	Game Set Match Originally Posted by blacksaint I liked Joe Horn, but have we forgotten that Joe and the local media was the main reason we lost one of the greatest players in Saints history, and one of the greatest OLT in NFL history in Willie Roaf. If not for the Joe Horn sleeping with his wife, and Roaf wife having Horn's baby, the sure fire HOF player would have retired a Saint. Call me bitter, but I never forgave him for that. If you can't trust your team mate around your family, than when exactly can you trust him. Not everyone who loves the Saints loved Joe Horn. It's this very reason why I never became a Joe Horn fan. It's this very reason that I screamed when the front office paid him over LeCharles Bentley who also had a few issues with Joe Horn. But hay, he is gone....I hope for his sake he wont mess around with any of Mexico's women. That can be a very dangerous thing.

05-15-2007, 07:59 AM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by blacksaint I liked Joe Horn, but have we forgotten that Joe and the local media was the main reason we lost one of the greatest players in Saints history, and one of the greatest OLT in NFL history in Willie Roaf. If not for the Joe Horn sleeping with his wife, and Roaf wife having Horn's baby, the sure fire HOF player would have retired a Saint. Call me bitter, but I never forgave him for that. If you can't trust your team mate around your family, than when exactly can you trust him. I did not know that. Talk about a jaw dropper on my side of the screen. The one thing I always noticed about Joe, was that he thought he was not replaceable. We all have jobs, and no matter how important or great YOU THINK YOU ARE, there is always someone that can take your spot. Joe is a thing of the past, we won with him(not a whole lot), we won without him(made it to the NFC Championship game), and this year we will beat him, without him.

05-15-2007, 08:11 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	On the field you had to respect him. Ok he had a QB that could not get pass the second read and always threw to him. But the defenses knew that and still could not stop him. Off the field I agree. The roaf thing, was that ever proven? The loss to the saints from that has always left a negative feeling toward him. Just or not, it is there. we lost all of the key OL and DL in such a short peroid of time no wonder we stunk up the dome and the rest of the NFL. Joe on the field I appauled. Off the field I just do not know.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

05-15-2007, 06:27 AM	#4
nedly Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 72	Originally Posted by WHODATNJ Lets get this out of the way... We all love Joe Horn and what he has done for our organization. But lets look at things from a broader spectrum. We had an idiot at QB that had one season of greatness that he didnt really deserve credit for. We had a pretty good offense with Duece opening up the passing lanes and a QB that well actually got real lucky that Blake got hurt. Believe it or not Blake was solid in that season and a solid comprehensive leader. Joe Horn has been the gift recipient of being a get my tail out of a sack go to guy. He is way to big for his britches so to speak. Aaron threw lots of junk to him because we had no one else open to throw too. If you look at those games you will see just how crazy looking our play progression was. Nothing looked planned just lucky to get out of there with a positive gain. Joe Horn is bigger than the team in his own mind. Bigger than anyone on last years roster. While I respect his courage and hard work maybe a little humility would have kept him here for a SB ring. We never had a Superstar QB and now he has one(Or Not). What do think will happen in that locker room when he is not happy that Vick chose to run when he was open five times in the seam? Best to look at it as a cancer. He will never be able to exist the way he did in NO with Vick. We loved him because he gave us hope when all else seemed to fail. But when it all boils down we will be able to compare the 2007 Vicks to the 2005 Eagles. There is only room on a ship for one captain and that is the man that plots the corse. I hate Joe Horn. I hate all me first players. I've hated him for the last three years.
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