More Vick News, Stool Pigeon Comes Forward

mikesaintfan · 05-28-2007, 09:45 AM

if he winds up in jail, he wont be able to run from the other inmates who want to get into "mexico"

LongTimeFan · 05-28-2007, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

The NFL can't really do anything until the investigation is complete, which could take awhile, as every level-local, state, and federal, is jumping in.

Goddell can't levy a suspension until Vick is found guilty or exonerated. If he hands out 4 games, and then Vick is found guilty, he looks stupid. Same thing if the suspension is too harsh.

Put me down for 4 games if Vick is 'innocent', and the whole season if he is found guilty.

" it's not like Commissioner Goodell has to wait on the investigation to play out. "

IMO the pressure is on Goodell.

Rest of this story:

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05...ck-suspension/

patdog · 05-28-2007, 01:29 PM

I'm no Vick fan, but I hate a RAT that is knee deep in the crime also. What makes him a good witness?

SoulStar · 05-28-2007, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by patdog

I'm no Vick fan, but I hate a RAT that is knee deep in the crime also. What makes him a good witness?

He isnt a good witness, but someone DA, Senator, State Offical, will use this person to tear down Vick, and make a bigger name for themself.

ScottyRo · 05-29-2007, 12:12 AM

I found the witness' statements to be highly unbelievable. They come off as someone who has some knowledge maybe, but who really is just trying to grab some spotlight. I bet he got paid for this interview. The media is looking for anyone that MIGHT have a valid story linking Vick to this.

I'm not saying the guy is lying and I certainly think there is good reason to beieve that Vick is guilty of dog fighting, but this guys sounds shaky to me.

WhoDat205 · 05-29-2007, 11:12 AM

Couple of interesting links:

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05...vicks-trouble/

...yes, I am cheering for Vick's demise...but it's about more than him playing for a divisional rival.

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05...nd-thats-fine/

Careful Devery...

mighty12 · 05-29-2007, 11:51 AM

I believe Vick should be on probation from football until this is settled. It was at a house with his name on the lease, much like another law that states if someone is drunk at your property and they drive off and kill someone you are at fault regardless of if you were there or not. This seems to be the same thing to me. I don't even care if he never stepped foot on that property. He bought it. He let someone else live on it. He should have kept up with the ins and outs of that property. I will be very upset if the Commish does nothing to Vick. It will be a horrible double-standard.

Sorry for the rant, but I am pissed that someone would do this to an animal which has no say so in its actions. I also have many friends who own pitbulls which are the nicest dogs I have been around if raised correctly, so Henderson has nothing to worry about unless he is treating them Vick style.

Euphoria · 05-29-2007, 01:50 PM

Hey let Vick play... we got his number, we got them figured out and can beat them any given day. Its the unknown which may bite us... no pun intended. I think this needs to play out in the courts first before we rush to judge. But not looking good.

JOESAM2002 · 05-29-2007, 04:15 PM

My gut felling on this is.....there's far to much smoke to not have a fire there somewhere. Plus the silence out of Falcons camp and Vick is deafening.

ScottF · 05-29-2007, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

My gut felling on this is.....there's far to much smoke to not have a fire there somewhere. Plus the silence out of Falcons camp and Vick is deafening.

Great point... Pac-man was never convicted either...yet got 8 games +

let's just move on:

Falcons are 9-7 with him, 7-9 w/o. In a year that they have some recievers or an offensive line, this would be an issue. This is not that year.

05-28-2007, 09:45 AM	#11
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	nowhere to run if he winds up in jail, he wont be able to run from the other inmates who want to get into "mexico"

05-28-2007, 10:35 AM	#12
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Originally Posted by ScottF The NFL can't really do anything until the investigation is complete, which could take awhile, as every level-local, state, and federal, is jumping in. Goddell can't levy a suspension until Vick is found guilty or exonerated. If he hands out 4 games, and then Vick is found guilty, he looks stupid. Same thing if the suspension is too harsh. Put me down for 4 games if Vick is 'innocent', and the whole season if he is found guilty. " it's not like Commissioner Goodell has to wait on the investigation to play out. " IMO the pressure is on Goodell. Rest of this story: http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05...ck-suspension/

05-28-2007, 01:42 PM	#14
SoulStar 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arlington Tx Posts: 157	Originally Posted by patdog I'm no Vick fan, but I hate a RAT that is knee deep in the crime also. What makes him a good witness? He isnt a good witness, but someone DA, Senator, State Offical, will use this person to tear down Vick, and make a bigger name for themself.

05-29-2007, 10:57 PM	#20
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 My gut felling on this is.....there's far to much smoke to not have a fire there somewhere. Plus the silence out of Falcons camp and Vick is deafening. Great point... Pac-man was never convicted either...yet got 8 games + let's just move on: Falcons are 9-7 with him, 7-9 w/o. In a year that they have some recievers or an offensive line, this would be an issue. This is not that year.

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05-28-2007, 01:29 PM	#13
patdog 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: westwego La Posts: 194	I'm no Vick fan, but I hate a RAT that is knee deep in the crime also. What makes him a good witness?

05-29-2007, 12:12 AM	#15
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	I found the witness' statements to be highly unbelievable. They come off as someone who has some knowledge maybe, but who really is just trying to grab some spotlight. I bet he got paid for this interview. The media is looking for anyone that MIGHT have a valid story linking Vick to this. I'm not saying the guy is lying and I certainly think there is good reason to beieve that Vick is guilty of dog fighting, but this guys sounds shaky to me.

05-29-2007, 11:12 AM	#16
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Couple of interesting links: http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05...vicks-trouble/ ...yes, I am cheering for Vick's demise...but it's about more than him playing for a divisional rival. http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05...nd-thats-fine/ Careful Devery...

05-29-2007, 11:51 AM	#17
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	I believe Vick should be on probation from football until this is settled. It was at a house with his name on the lease, much like another law that states if someone is drunk at your property and they drive off and kill someone you are at fault regardless of if you were there or not. This seems to be the same thing to me. I don't even care if he never stepped foot on that property. He bought it. He let someone else live on it. He should have kept up with the ins and outs of that property. I will be very upset if the Commish does nothing to Vick. It will be a horrible double-standard. Sorry for the rant, but I am pissed that someone would do this to an animal which has no say so in its actions. I also have many friends who own pitbulls which are the nicest dogs I have been around if raised correctly, so Henderson has nothing to worry about unless he is treating them Vick style.

05-29-2007, 01:50 PM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Hey let Vick play... we got his number, we got them figured out and can beat them any given day. Its the unknown which may bite us... no pun intended. I think this needs to play out in the courts first before we rush to judge. But not looking good.

05-29-2007, 04:15 PM	#19
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	My gut felling on this is.....there's far to much smoke to not have a fire there somewhere. Plus the silence out of Falcons camp and Vick is deafening.