Your Top Five?

cadilacin · 06-02-2007, 06:40 PM

Cheramie...I feel like Ladanian is the best running back that I have seen with my own eyes. He has all the attributes he needs to dominate the game, and that is exactly what he does. He has great vision. Excellent hands. He's fast, elusive, and just an all around "awesome" football player. The only reason he wasn't my number 1 back is because he doesn't have the years in yet, and he hasn't lead his team to the big game yet. But it's coming.

But don't get me wrong. It's hard to dispute the list you put out. The only one I don't like is Franco Harris. I just don't believe he was a "top five" back!!

hagan714 · 06-02-2007, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by cadilacin

But don't get me wrong. It's hard to dispute the list you put out. The only one I don't like is Franco Harris. I just don't believe he was a "top five" back!!

FRANCO HARRIS
Class of 1990
Running Back >>> 6-2, 230
(Penn State)
1972-1983 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1984 Seattle Seahawks

Franco Harris. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1972. . .Provided big-back power to Steelers offense. . .All-Pro, 1977, All-AFC three times. . .In eight Pro Bowls. . .158 yards rushing, MVP in Super Bowl IX . . .Rushed 1,000 yards eight seasons, 100 yards, 47 games. . .Career record: 12,120 yards, 91 TDs rushing; 2,287 yards, 9 TDs receiving; 14,622 combined net yards. . . 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season games. . . Born March 7, 1950, in Fort Dix, New Jersey.

Franco Harris began his pro football career as the Pittsburgh Steelers' No.1 pick and the 13th player selected in the 1972 NFL Draft. For 12 seasons, the 6-2, 230-pounder from Penn State was a big-yardage running back, a key man in the powerful Pittsburgh offensive machine, which also included an outstanding passing attack.

Harris established himself as a future superstar when he became only the fourth rookie in NFL annals to rush for 1,000 yards. He gained additional attention by being on the receiving end of the famous "Immaculate Reception" pass from Terry Bradshaw that gave the Steelers their first-ever playoff win, a 13-7 victory over the Oakland Raiders. In his 13 seasons, the last of which was spent with the Seattle Seahawks in 1984, Harris rushed 2,949 times for 12,120 yards and 91 touchdowns.

He rushed for 1,000 yards or more eight seasons and for more than 100 yards in 47 games. He also caught 307 passes for 2,287 yards and nine touchdowns. His career rushing total and his combined net yardage figure of 14,622 both ranked as the third highest marks in pro football history at the time of his retirement.

Harris, who was born in Fort Dix, New Jersey, on March 7, 1950, was an All-AFC choice in 1972, 1975, 1976, and 1977 and first- or second-team All-Pro six times. He was selected to nine Pro Bowls. Franco played in five AFC championships – missing a sixth because of injury – and four Super Bowls.

In Super Bowl IX, when the Steelers won their first-ever league title with a 16-6 victory over Minnesota, Harris rushed for 158 yards, compared to just 17 yards rushing for the entire Viking team. He was named the game's Most Valuable Player. Harris held numerous Super Bowl and post-season game records by the end of his career. The most notable include 24 points and 354 yards rushing in four Super Bowls and 17 touchdowns and 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season playoff games.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/me...p?player_id=89

How does he not even get considered in your original post? The guy was a beast. you are selling him short. Has to be one of the top 3 backs for size and speed ever to play. Brown, Campbell and Franco are the best. LT when he is done will be among this group.
Like I said I really like power backs with speed.

SaintsfaninVA · 06-02-2007, 08:34 PM

5.Bo Jackson
4.Eric Dickerson
3.Gale Sayers
2.Barry Sanders
(drum roll).......

1.JIM BROWN(duh)

SaintsfaninVA · 06-02-2007, 08:36 PM

oh and how could i forget Ki Jana Carter. that man rewrote the record books

dberce1 · 06-02-2007, 08:42 PM

5. O.J. Simpson
4. Gayle Sayers (didn't play long, but damn he was sweet)
3. Walter Payton
2. Jim Brown- a man amongst boys

1. Barry Sanders- put him with Emmit's offensive lines, and his records would have been untouchable. Put him in Jim Brown's era, and he would have made everyone look foolish. He did what he did behind a usually mediocre at best O-line.

cadilacin · 06-02-2007, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

How does he not even get considered in your original post? The guy was a beast. you are selling him short. Has to be one of the top 3 backs for size and speed ever to play. Brown, Campbell and Franco are the best. LT when he is done will be among this group.
Like I said I really like power backs with speed.

Hagan, Let me clarify. I didn't mean to omit Franco from my original list. Yes, he was a beast. Yes he is a bonified Hall of Famer. I just don't believe he is a top fiver. I also enjoy the big powerful backs with speed. I'm a football lover...I love all types of backs. Not to diminish anything that Franco has accomplished..."to me", he's just not one of my "top five".

And Ladanian...dawg...Ladanian is a beast!!! I don't have a problem with putting existing players in the group with the greatest of all time (if there deservant). I realize that we are witnessing greatness, so I rate him as such. But I appreciate you reminding me of the greatness of Franco. The boy was a beast.

WhoDat205 · 06-02-2007, 10:41 PM

5. Deuce - you know him, you love him.

4. LDT - 31 TD's in a season? He throws and catches too. I guarantee you he could play linebacker too. He's the most phenomenal RB I've ever watched. Even in college at TCU it was obvious he was a level above.

3. Bo - The size of a LB with the speed of a return man. I still feel jipped about his injury.

2. Barry - The human pinball. Send Emmitt to Detroit and put Barry behind that Big D line and there wouldn't be any records left to break.

1. Walter - All the best things come from Mississppi.

Honorable Mention: Robert Smith

I'm sure I'll get flack from the old timers, but these were the guys I saw play. I've seen clips of Jim Brown, and he was great, but the competition he played against looked like Deuce suiting up for Lena high school.

hagan714 · 06-03-2007, 08:16 AM

LT did one thing I really liked last year and that was set the record in 14 games. That was big in my eyes. He is almost the perfect RB. Like I said when he is done I will have to debate on him or Brown as the best to ever play the game. If the the chargers had a passing game to open up the field then imagine what his numbers would be like. Gates can only do so much. Every team knows if you are going to beat the Chargers you must stop the run or at the least limit it in some shape or form. LT just keeps on going. Plus he has class.

now for Ki Jana Carter lets give him some respect too

06-02-2007, 06:40 PM	#1
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	ok... Cheramie...I feel like Ladanian is the best running back that I have seen with my own eyes. He has all the attributes he needs to dominate the game, and that is exactly what he does. He has great vision. Excellent hands. He's fast, elusive, and just an all around "awesome" football player. The only reason he wasn't my number 1 back is because he doesn't have the years in yet, and he hasn't lead his team to the big game yet. But it's coming. But don't get me wrong. It's hard to dispute the list you put out. The only one I don't like is Franco Harris. I just don't believe he was a "top five" back!!
	The best conerback tandem in the league reside in the N.O. Last edited by cadilacin; 06-02-2007 at 06:42 PM.. Reason: forgot a line

06-02-2007, 08:15 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by cadilacin But don't get me wrong. It's hard to dispute the list you put out. The only one I don't like is Franco Harris. I just don't believe he was a "top five" back!! FRANCO HARRIS Class of 1990 Running Back >>> 6-2, 230 (Penn State) 1972-1983 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1984 Seattle Seahawks Franco Harris. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1972. . .Provided big-back power to Steelers offense. . .All-Pro, 1977, All-AFC three times. . .In eight Pro Bowls. . .158 yards rushing, MVP in Super Bowl IX . . .Rushed 1,000 yards eight seasons, 100 yards, 47 games. . .Career record: 12,120 yards, 91 TDs rushing; 2,287 yards, 9 TDs receiving; 14,622 combined net yards. . . 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season games. . . Born March 7, 1950, in Fort Dix, New Jersey. Franco Harris began his pro football career as the Pittsburgh Steelers' No.1 pick and the 13th player selected in the 1972 NFL Draft. For 12 seasons, the 6-2, 230-pounder from Penn State was a big-yardage running back, a key man in the powerful Pittsburgh offensive machine, which also included an outstanding passing attack. Harris established himself as a future superstar when he became only the fourth rookie in NFL annals to rush for 1,000 yards. He gained additional attention by being on the receiving end of the famous "Immaculate Reception" pass from Terry Bradshaw that gave the Steelers their first-ever playoff win, a 13-7 victory over the Oakland Raiders. In his 13 seasons, the last of which was spent with the Seattle Seahawks in 1984, Harris rushed 2,949 times for 12,120 yards and 91 touchdowns. He rushed for 1,000 yards or more eight seasons and for more than 100 yards in 47 games. He also caught 307 passes for 2,287 yards and nine touchdowns. His career rushing total and his combined net yardage figure of 14,622 both ranked as the third highest marks in pro football history at the time of his retirement. Harris, who was born in Fort Dix, New Jersey, on March 7, 1950, was an All-AFC choice in 1972, 1975, 1976, and 1977 and first- or second-team All-Pro six times. He was selected to nine Pro Bowls. Franco played in five AFC championships – missing a sixth because of injury – and four Super Bowls. In Super Bowl IX, when the Steelers won their first-ever league title with a 16-6 victory over Minnesota, Harris rushed for 158 yards, compared to just 17 yards rushing for the entire Viking team. He was named the game's Most Valuable Player. Harris held numerous Super Bowl and post-season game records by the end of his career. The most notable include 24 points and 354 yards rushing in four Super Bowls and 17 touchdowns and 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season playoff games. http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/me...p?player_id=89 How does he not even get considered in your original post? The guy was a beast. you are selling him short. Has to be one of the top 3 backs for size and speed ever to play. Brown, Campbell and Franco are the best. LT when he is done will be among this group. Like I said I really like power backs with speed.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

06-02-2007, 09:45 PM	#6
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Franco's a beast! Originally Posted by hagan714 How does he not even get considered in your original post? The guy was a beast. you are selling him short. Has to be one of the top 3 backs for size and speed ever to play. Brown, Campbell and Franco are the best. LT when he is done will be among this group. Like I said I really like power backs with speed. Hagan, Let me clarify. I didn't mean to omit Franco from my original list. Yes, he was a beast. Yes he is a bonified Hall of Famer. I just don't believe he is a top fiver. I also enjoy the big powerful backs with speed. I'm a football lover...I love all types of backs. Not to diminish anything that Franco has accomplished..."to me", he's just not one of my "top five". And Ladanian...dawg...Ladanian is a beast!!! I don't have a problem with putting existing players in the group with the greatest of all time (if there deservant). I realize that we are witnessing greatness, so I rate him as such. But I appreciate you reminding me of the greatness of Franco. The boy was a beast.
	The best conerback tandem in the league reside in the N.O.

06-02-2007, 10:41 PM	#7
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	5. Deuce - you know him, you love him. 4. LDT - 31 TD's in a season? He throws and catches too. I guarantee you he could play linebacker too. He's the most phenomenal RB I've ever watched. Even in college at TCU it was obvious he was a level above. 3. Bo - The size of a LB with the speed of a return man. I still feel jipped about his injury. 2. Barry - The human pinball. Send Emmitt to Detroit and put Barry behind that Big D line and there wouldn't be any records left to break. 1. Walter - All the best things come from Mississppi. Honorable Mention: Robert Smith I'm sure I'll get flack from the old timers, but these were the guys I saw play. I've seen clips of Jim Brown, and he was great, but the competition he played against looked like Deuce suiting up for Lena high school.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

06-03-2007, 08:16 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	LT did one thing I really liked last year and that was set the record in 14 games. That was big in my eyes. He is almost the perfect RB. Like I said when he is done I will have to debate on him or Brown as the best to ever play the game. If the the chargers had a passing game to open up the field then imagine what his numbers would be like. Gates can only do so much. Every team knows if you are going to beat the Chargers you must stop the run or at the least limit it in some shape or form. LT just keeps on going. Plus he has class. now for Ki Jana Carter lets give him some respect too
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

06-02-2007, 08:34 PM	#3
SaintsfaninVA Eskimo Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia Posts: 36	5.Bo Jackson 4.Eric Dickerson 3.Gale Sayers 2.Barry Sanders (drum roll)....... 1.JIM BROWN(duh)

06-02-2007, 08:36 PM	#4
SaintsfaninVA Eskimo Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia Posts: 36	oh and how could i forget Ki Jana Carter. that man rewrote the record books

06-02-2007, 08:42 PM	#5
dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	5. O.J. Simpson 4. Gayle Sayers (didn't play long, but damn he was sweet) 3. Walter Payton 2. Jim Brown- a man amongst boys 1. Barry Sanders- put him with Emmit's offensive lines, and his records would have been untouchable. Put him in Jim Brown's era, and he would have made everyone look foolish. He did what he did behind a usually mediocre at best O-line.