Fred Thomas article......

biloxi-indian · 06-07-2007, 09:32 AM

http://www.sunherald.com/sports/story/71302.html

WhoDat205 · 06-07-2007, 09:46 AM

At least he's got the right attitude.

WillMacKenzie · 06-07-2007, 10:58 AM

I agree that it was Toast's lack of safety help that led to alot of those big plays. With Roman back in black, and Kaesviharn (led league in safety interceptions last year) they'll be noticeably fewer big plays.

ScottF · 06-07-2007, 11:02 AM

This article humanizes the guy and puts him in a good light, but doesn't improve his playing ability.

There are a lot of nice guys out there who don't play football.

Euphoria · 06-07-2007, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I agree that it was Toast's lack of safety help that led to alot of those big plays. With Roman back in black, and Kaesviharn (led league in safety interceptions last year) they'll be noticeably fewer big plays.

Well I would have to disagree... I do recall some plays the Saftey blew but FT was no wheres near where he should have been and so clueless out there he might as well have been rainman out there. The classic example was that GB fame (it still sticks with me) Farve didn't hide it and went at FT every pass play. Saftey where he should be and going in FT position right at the line and let the WR work one on one against FT. CB's are on an island... unless you are going to double team a WR Fred is going to have to step up or cut. He has stuck up the joint for 2 years at least.

WillMacKenzie · 06-07-2007, 07:14 PM

yeah of course, by no means am I saying that everytime there was trouble, it was the safety's fault - I meant a chunk of those weren't all Toast's fault. That's why my point is that I'm glad to have our real safeties back. There should be a reduction of those big plays. If Thomas thinks he's actually going to start though, he just soon lower his expectations before he gets hit with a let-down.

TheDeuce · 06-07-2007, 07:27 PM

Yes Fred Thomas got burnt last season, but that's just because I think he was in the wrong position. He wasn't, at that stage of his career, good enough to be playing on of the corners, but we didn't have anybody else. I'm glad he took the pay cut to come back because I think he's going to be a solid contributor to the secondary as a nickel or dime back. He doesn't have world-class speed anymore (he actually never did, but he has lost a step), but he has good technique, and I expect him to be one of the veteran leaders of this defense.

blacksaint · 06-07-2007, 11:50 PM

Nothing personal but Fred "DOUBLE MOVE" Thomas is nothing more than a dime back with the new secondary additions that we have. And for those who don't remember, he bit on those double moves like they were steaks and he was starving. And that's if he makes the team, because we have a lot of young athletic talent at the Corner position, I'm telling you guys keep an eye on Joe Porter from Rutgers, this kid can really fly and he has nice size(6'0",200), he's been making outstanding plays from day one.

WhoDat205 · 06-08-2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

Fred "DOUBLE MOVE" Thomas is nothing more than a dime back with the new secondary additions that we have. And for those who don't remember, he bit on those double moves like they were steaks and he was starving. And that's if he makes the team, because we have a lot of young athletic talent at the Corner position, I'm telling you guys keep an eye on Joe Porter from Rutgers, this kid can really fly and he has nice size(6'0",200), he's been making outstanding plays from day one.

"Double Move"...that's freakin' hilarious.

I really like what I'm hearing about this Porter kid. I hope he's got a head for football.

hagan714 · 06-08-2007, 10:08 AM

I like that better than toast

06-07-2007, 09:32 AM	#1
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Fred Thomas article...... http://www.sunherald.com/sports/story/71302.html

06-07-2007, 07:08 PM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I agree that it was Toast's lack of safety help that led to alot of those big plays. With Roman back in black, and Kaesviharn (led league in safety interceptions last year) they'll be noticeably fewer big plays. Well I would have to disagree... I do recall some plays the Saftey blew but FT was no wheres near where he should have been and so clueless out there he might as well have been rainman out there. The classic example was that GB fame (it still sticks with me) Farve didn't hide it and went at FT every pass play. Saftey where he should be and going in FT position right at the line and let the WR work one on one against FT. CB's are on an island... unless you are going to double team a WR Fred is going to have to step up or cut. He has stuck up the joint for 2 years at least.

06-07-2007, 07:27 PM	#7
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Yes Fred Thomas got burnt last season, but that's just because I think he was in the wrong position. He wasn't, at that stage of his career, good enough to be playing on of the corners, but we didn't have anybody else. I'm glad he took the pay cut to come back because I think he's going to be a solid contributor to the secondary as a nickel or dime back. He doesn't have world-class speed anymore (he actually never did, but he has lost a step), but he has good technique, and I expect him to be one of the veteran leaders of this defense.
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06-08-2007, 09:00 AM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by blacksaint Fred "DOUBLE MOVE" Thomas is nothing more than a dime back with the new secondary additions that we have. And for those who don't remember, he bit on those double moves like they were steaks and he was starving. And that's if he makes the team, because we have a lot of young athletic talent at the Corner position, I'm telling you guys keep an eye on Joe Porter from Rutgers, this kid can really fly and he has nice size(6'0",200), he's been making outstanding plays from day one. "Double Move"...that's freakin' hilarious. I really like what I'm hearing about this Porter kid. I hope he's got a head for football.

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WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	At least he's got the right attitude.

06-07-2007, 10:58 AM	#3
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	I agree that it was Toast's lack of safety help that led to alot of those big plays. With Roman back in black, and Kaesviharn (led league in safety interceptions last year) they'll be noticeably fewer big plays.

06-07-2007, 11:02 AM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	This article humanizes the guy and puts him in a good light, but doesn't improve his playing ability. There are a lot of nice guys out there who don't play football.

06-07-2007, 07:14 PM	#6
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	yeah of course, by no means am I saying that everytime there was trouble, it was the safety's fault - I meant a chunk of those weren't all Toast's fault. That's why my point is that I'm glad to have our real safeties back. There should be a reduction of those big plays. If Thomas thinks he's actually going to start though, he just soon lower his expectations before he gets hit with a let-down.

06-07-2007, 11:50 PM	#8
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Nothing personal but Fred "DOUBLE MOVE" Thomas is nothing more than a dime back with the new secondary additions that we have. And for those who don't remember, he bit on those double moves like they were steaks and he was starving. And that's if he makes the team, because we have a lot of young athletic talent at the Corner position, I'm telling you guys keep an eye on Joe Porter from Rutgers, this kid can really fly and he has nice size(6'0",200), he's been making outstanding plays from day one.

06-08-2007, 10:08 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	I like that better than toast