weak links in the chain

Tobias-Reiper · 06-10-2007, 06:40 AM

On offense, the TE position. On defense, the secondary, and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down.

hagan714 · 06-10-2007, 07:18 AM

Way too early to tell. Sean taught me last year not to under estimate him, his coaches and the scouting department. He should produce once again more than one gem from the 2007 FAs and the draft. So I have to wait and see who they are. Last year I ate to much humble pie for my liking.
I am already looking forward to 2008 FA and draft.

Bergeaux · 06-10-2007, 07:35 AM

Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team.

Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid.

saintsfan1976 · 06-10-2007, 10:52 AM

I think the food in the Dome is pretty weak....

I mean, can't we get some "local flavor" in the concessions and maybe help resurrect the restaurant scene? Could ya'll imagine a "debris sandwich" at halftime to go with your DOMEFOAM??

Oh, and LB/CB are weak-ish....

ScottF · 06-10-2007, 12:14 PM

Weak link?

We upgraded EVERY position except WR, and that still might still turn out better than last year.

Our offensive backfield & line is a year older and more cohesive, so yes, that is an upgrade.

My only area of concern is special teams. Hopefully the young DB's and LB's can step it up on coverage. Mare's leg will definitely help.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-10-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bergeaux

Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team.

I'm not so sure about that. The last time Martin had substantial playing time with the Rams he led that team to like 4 or 5 wins over an 8 game stretch. In his last game with the Saints he had a 66% completion percentage and only threw one INT (along with one TD)

He's no Brees, I'll give you that, but I think he'd be more like Garcia in Philly last year than the backup for Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (or even Favre for that matter).

Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid.

The new secondary hasn't yet proved that they won't give up the big play. Until they do, they are suspect.

But at the end of the day, the QB position has to be the weak link now only because the #1 guy is an MVP caliber QB in this league, and the #2 isn't.

SFIAH

SapperSaint · 06-11-2007, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down.

Thank God someone else said this before me. I was worried about getting the thrid degree for saying that, so thanks T-R.

McKenzie has never impressed me.

Boogro · 06-11-2007, 10:05 AM

If Harper goes down, we'll have KK and Bullocks starting with Bellamy and Gleason on the bench. Don't know much about the safety we signed from Washington, but a safety going down won't kill us, but will hurt to a degree.

McKenzie hasn't impress as far as his interception numbers go, but I think he's played pretty well. I am not a big McKenzie fan, but I don't have a problem with his play. It's the other cornerback spot I am worried about. I think this offseason took care of that.

I think Mare actually has some big shoes to fill. Carney was money from 40 in, just didn't have the leg strength. Mare has the big leg, but isn't quite as accurate. Hopefully, he will have a good year.

WhoDat205 · 06-11-2007, 11:27 AM

I think the team is a strong as any in the NFL. On Offense, the backfield is probably the best in the league with Deuce, Reggie, Brees and Karney, and the OL is very good, too. that's a dangerous combo. The WR spot is thin in talent. Hopefully Colston can build on last season, that would make him a probowler, no doubt. But after him, Reggie's the second best reciever on the team. Meachum's a big question mark, and Copper, Henderson and Patten just aren't 60 cathes a year recivers. Thank God Drew is the one delivering the ball.

For Defense, the D-Line is stacked. Two all-pro caliber DEs and a now improved DT rotation should make running the ball on a tough job for opposing teams. They're a little thin in the secondary, but there's a lot of young talent on this secondary. LB is probably the weakest link on this side of the ball. Fujita, Shanle, Simmons and Co. can probably get the job done, but none of them are Honolulu bound.

As for the back-up QB. That's the case with everyone. There are like 9 established franchise QBs in the league: Brees, Archie's Boy, Brady, McNabb, Palmer, Farve, McNair, Hasselback and Roethlisberger. Throw in Rivers and maybe Cutler and you've covered all of the SB contenders. I don't think McNabb, Farve or McNair are going to win you a SB, but if any of those 11 guys go down, their team's season is over.

neugey · 06-11-2007, 11:44 AM

I would say TE - Mark Campbell and Eric Johnson are injury prone and have probably already peaked. We need a young promising TE w/ upside to develop that turns out more like Antonio Gates and less like Boo Williams.

06-10-2007, 07:35 AM	#3
Bergeaux Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team. Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid.
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06-10-2007, 12:57 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Originally Posted by Bergeaux Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team. I'm not so sure about that. The last time Martin had substantial playing time with the Rams he led that team to like 4 or 5 wins over an 8 game stretch. In his last game with the Saints he had a 66% completion percentage and only threw one INT (along with one TD) He's no Brees, I'll give you that, but I think he'd be more like Garcia in Philly last year than the backup for Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (or even Favre for that matter). Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid. The new secondary hasn't yet proved that they won't give up the big play. Until they do, they are suspect. But at the end of the day, the QB position has to be the weak link now only because the #1 guy is an MVP caliber QB in this league, and the #2 isn't. SFIAH
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06-11-2007, 08:28 AM	#7
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down. Thank God someone else said this before me. I was worried about getting the thrid degree for saying that, so thanks T-R. McKenzie has never impressed me.

06-11-2007, 11:27 AM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	I think the team is a strong as any in the NFL. On Offense, the backfield is probably the best in the league with Deuce, Reggie, Brees and Karney, and the OL is very good, too. that's a dangerous combo. The WR spot is thin in talent. Hopefully Colston can build on last season, that would make him a probowler, no doubt. But after him, Reggie's the second best reciever on the team. Meachum's a big question mark, and Copper, Henderson and Patten just aren't 60 cathes a year recivers. Thank God Drew is the one delivering the ball. For Defense, the D-Line is stacked. Two all-pro caliber DEs and a now improved DT rotation should make running the ball on a tough job for opposing teams. They're a little thin in the secondary, but there's a lot of young talent on this secondary. LB is probably the weakest link on this side of the ball. Fujita, Shanle, Simmons and Co. can probably get the job done, but none of them are Honolulu bound. As for the back-up QB. That's the case with everyone. There are like 9 established franchise QBs in the league: Brees, Archie's Boy, Brady, McNabb, Palmer, Farve, McNair, Hasselback and Roethlisberger. Throw in Rivers and maybe Cutler and you've covered all of the SB contenders. I don't think McNabb, Farve or McNair are going to win you a SB, but if any of those 11 guys go down, their team's season is over.
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06-10-2007, 06:40 AM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	On offense, the TE position. On defense, the secondary, and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down.

06-10-2007, 07:18 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Way too early to tell. Sean taught me last year not to under estimate him, his coaches and the scouting department. He should produce once again more than one gem from the 2007 FAs and the draft. So I have to wait and see who they are. Last year I ate to much humble pie for my liking. I am already looking forward to 2008 FA and draft.

06-10-2007, 10:52 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	I think the food in the Dome is pretty weak.... I mean, can't we get some "local flavor" in the concessions and maybe help resurrect the restaurant scene? Could ya'll imagine a "debris sandwich" at halftime to go with your DOMEFOAM?? Oh, and LB/CB are weak-ish....

06-10-2007, 12:14 PM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Weak link? We upgraded EVERY position except WR, and that still might still turn out better than last year. Our offensive backfield & line is a year older and more cohesive, so yes, that is an upgrade. My only area of concern is special teams. Hopefully the young DB's and LB's can step it up on coverage. Mare's leg will definitely help.

06-11-2007, 10:05 AM	#8
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	If Harper goes down, we'll have KK and Bullocks starting with Bellamy and Gleason on the bench. Don't know much about the safety we signed from Washington, but a safety going down won't kill us, but will hurt to a degree. McKenzie hasn't impress as far as his interception numbers go, but I think he's played pretty well. I am not a big McKenzie fan, but I don't have a problem with his play. It's the other cornerback spot I am worried about. I think this offseason took care of that. I think Mare actually has some big shoes to fill. Carney was money from 40 in, just didn't have the leg strength. Mare has the big leg, but isn't quite as accurate. Hopefully, he will have a good year.

06-11-2007, 11:44 AM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	I would say TE - Mark Campbell and Eric Johnson are injury prone and have probably already peaked. We need a young promising TE w/ upside to develop that turns out more like Antonio Gates and less like Boo Williams.