weak links in the chain

BleedBlack&Gold · 06-09-2007, 07:49 PM

Only my third post and would like to say ya'll provide for some interesting reading.
See alot of positive comments and was wondering what everyone thinks is/are
the weak links (besides Fred Thomas) that could come from injury or just lack of depth, or talent at certain positions..
In looking at the draft and F/A aquistions I believe (and pray it doesnt happen) that if Brees goes down we are screwed. Martin might prevent the ship from sinking but he wont sail it to the promised land.
What do ya'll think?

maximkat · 06-09-2007, 09:37 PM

i'm actually eager to see the team we have right now on the field. sure i think a lot of us are worried about the backup qb position, but hey - we are worried about a backup spot. when was the last time we weren't worrying about starting talent? i can't recall. i'm pretty happy with the people we have, i'd just like to see the finished product. here's looking forward to another great season!

Tobias-Reiper · 06-10-2007, 07:40 AM

On offense, the TE position. On defense, the secondary, and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down.

hagan714 · 06-10-2007, 08:18 AM

Way too early to tell. Sean taught me last year not to under estimate him, his coaches and the scouting department. He should produce once again more than one gem from the 2007 FAs and the draft. So I have to wait and see who they are. Last year I ate to much humble pie for my liking.
I am already looking forward to 2008 FA and draft.

Bergeaux · 06-10-2007, 08:35 AM

Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team.

Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid.

saintsfan1976 · 06-10-2007, 11:52 AM

I think the food in the Dome is pretty weak....

I mean, can't we get some "local flavor" in the concessions and maybe help resurrect the restaurant scene? Could ya'll imagine a "debris sandwich" at halftime to go with your DOMEFOAM??

Oh, and LB/CB are weak-ish....

ScottF · 06-10-2007, 01:14 PM

Weak link?

We upgraded EVERY position except WR, and that still might still turn out better than last year.

Our offensive backfield & line is a year older and more cohesive, so yes, that is an upgrade.

My only area of concern is special teams. Hopefully the young DB's and LB's can step it up on coverage. Mare's leg will definitely help.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-10-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bergeaux

Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team.

I'm not so sure about that. The last time Martin had substantial playing time with the Rams he led that team to like 4 or 5 wins over an 8 game stretch. In his last game with the Saints he had a 66% completion percentage and only threw one INT (along with one TD)

He's no Brees, I'll give you that, but I think he'd be more like Garcia in Philly last year than the backup for Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (or even Favre for that matter).

Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid.

The new secondary hasn't yet proved that they won't give up the big play. Until they do, they are suspect.

But at the end of the day, the QB position has to be the weak link now only because the #1 guy is an MVP caliber QB in this league, and the #2 isn't.

SFIAH

SapperSaint · 06-11-2007, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down.

Thank God someone else said this before me. I was worried about getting the thrid degree for saying that, so thanks T-R.

McKenzie has never impressed me.

Boogro · 06-11-2007, 11:05 AM

If Harper goes down, we'll have KK and Bullocks starting with Bellamy and Gleason on the bench. Don't know much about the safety we signed from Washington, but a safety going down won't kill us, but will hurt to a degree.

McKenzie hasn't impress as far as his interception numbers go, but I think he's played pretty well. I am not a big McKenzie fan, but I don't have a problem with his play. It's the other cornerback spot I am worried about. I think this offseason took care of that.

I think Mare actually has some big shoes to fill. Carney was money from 40 in, just didn't have the leg strength. Mare has the big leg, but isn't quite as accurate. Hopefully, he will have a good year.

06-10-2007, 08:35 AM	#5
Bergeaux Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team. Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid.
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06-10-2007, 01:57 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Originally Posted by Bergeaux Right now I think the weakest link is the backup QB position. If Drew Brees gets hurt, we are done as a team. I'm not so sure about that. The last time Martin had substantial playing time with the Rams he led that team to like 4 or 5 wins over an 8 game stretch. In his last game with the Saints he had a 66% completion percentage and only threw one INT (along with one TD) He's no Brees, I'll give you that, but I think he'd be more like Garcia in Philly last year than the backup for Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (or even Favre for that matter). Besdies that... Maybe the backup MLB or TE? I don't see the secondary as a problem anymore, and I don't see any other weaknesses... Seriously, maybe I am just being a homer, but this team is solid. The new secondary hasn't yet proved that they won't give up the big play. Until they do, they are suspect. But at the end of the day, the QB position has to be the weak link now only because the #1 guy is an MVP caliber QB in this league, and the #2 isn't. SFIAH
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06-11-2007, 09:28 AM	#9
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down. Thank God someone else said this before me. I was worried about getting the thrid degree for saying that, so thanks T-R. McKenzie has never impressed me.

06-09-2007, 07:49 PM	#1
BleedBlack&Gold Registered Join Date: May 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 45	weak links in the chain Only my third post and would like to say ya'll provide for some interesting reading. See alot of positive comments and was wondering what everyone thinks is/are the weak links (besides Fred Thomas) that could come from injury or just lack of depth, or talent at certain positions.. In looking at the draft and F/A aquistions I believe (and pray it doesnt happen) that if Brees goes down we are screwed. Martin might prevent the ship from sinking but he wont sail it to the promised land. What do ya'll think?

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06-09-2007, 09:37 PM	#2
maximkat ChocolateMilk Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Live Free or Die Posts: 362	i'm actually eager to see the team we have right now on the field. sure i think a lot of us are worried about the backup qb position, but hey - we are worried about a backup spot. when was the last time we weren't worrying about starting talent? i can't recall. i'm pretty happy with the people we have, i'd just like to see the finished product. here's looking forward to another great season!

06-10-2007, 07:40 AM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	On offense, the TE position. On defense, the secondary, and while everyone piles on Thomas, McKenzie isn't exactly shutting anyone down.

06-10-2007, 08:18 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Way too early to tell. Sean taught me last year not to under estimate him, his coaches and the scouting department. He should produce once again more than one gem from the 2007 FAs and the draft. So I have to wait and see who they are. Last year I ate to much humble pie for my liking. I am already looking forward to 2008 FA and draft.

06-10-2007, 11:52 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	I think the food in the Dome is pretty weak.... I mean, can't we get some "local flavor" in the concessions and maybe help resurrect the restaurant scene? Could ya'll imagine a "debris sandwich" at halftime to go with your DOMEFOAM?? Oh, and LB/CB are weak-ish....

06-10-2007, 01:14 PM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Weak link? We upgraded EVERY position except WR, and that still might still turn out better than last year. Our offensive backfield & line is a year older and more cohesive, so yes, that is an upgrade. My only area of concern is special teams. Hopefully the young DB's and LB's can step it up on coverage. Mare's leg will definitely help.

06-11-2007, 11:05 AM	#10
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	If Harper goes down, we'll have KK and Bullocks starting with Bellamy and Gleason on the bench. Don't know much about the safety we signed from Washington, but a safety going down won't kill us, but will hurt to a degree. McKenzie hasn't impress as far as his interception numbers go, but I think he's played pretty well. I am not a big McKenzie fan, but I don't have a problem with his play. It's the other cornerback spot I am worried about. I think this offseason took care of that. I think Mare actually has some big shoes to fill. Carney was money from 40 in, just didn't have the leg strength. Mare has the big leg, but isn't quite as accurate. Hopefully, he will have a good year.