I wonder if Coach Payton has learned his lesson.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-17-2007, 08:27 AM

The greatest Saints' moments thread got me thinking about the NFC championship game again. As incredible a force as the Saints' offense is under Coach Payton, schematically they still have some flaws to work on. Last season when faced with defenses of the same caliber as the offense (Baltimore, Chicago, and to a lesser extent Carolina) the offense had some efficiency issues.

Here's the lesson:

When in doubt, run the ball.

Even if it's an 8 man front, run the ball.

To keep the offense balanced, run the ball.

Even if it's two yards and a cloud of dust (or snow in the Chicago case), run the ball.

Even if you're behind in the game, run the ball.

The Saints last year always got in trouble when Brees started slinging the ball all over the field. If the defense succeeded in unbalancing our offense, then they got themselves in trouble.

I still don't know how many times Brees checked out of a run due to scheme, or how many times it was that Coach Payton called for passing the ball.

But what I do know is that Brees needs to limit his attempts to under 40 per game if at all possible. Consider that he threw 45 attempts in the Baltimore game and 49 attempts in the championship game. In both games the rushing game was under 20 attempts by the RBs.

So I ask, do you think Coach Payton has learned his lesson and will keep the rushing offense balanced at all costs. Especially when playing exceptional defenses?

You make the call.

SFIAH

WVSaint · 06-17-2007, 12:10 PM

i think running the ball is gonna be the key to us going to the SB this year. if deuce and reggie improve on last years running game, thatll be enough to keep our defense off the field and win games for us. i still say the best defense is keeping our offense on the field and chewing up the clock with the running game. in a way im hoping brees' numbers drop this year and deuces/reggies yard on the ground increase dramatically.

FireVenturi · 06-17-2007, 03:23 PM

i agree, but especially on the drive we coulda took the lead. with that said he is still a helluva coach.

bobcat4u2 · 06-17-2007, 08:25 PM

i think payton said after game he should have run more.even greatest coach of all time have made errors.i feel at last we have a 1st class coach and organization.let's support them 110% and on to the super bowl.After this year,we start to worry about losing our fine asst. coaches who have a lot to with our gain without much public recognition.

WhoDat205 · 06-18-2007, 09:43 AM

So true. Just take the snap, turn around and say, "here you go Deuce. Go get a 1st down."

06-17-2007, 08:27 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	I wonder if Coach Payton has learned his lesson. The greatest Saints' moments thread got me thinking about the NFC championship game again. As incredible a force as the Saints' offense is under Coach Payton, schematically they still have some flaws to work on. Last season when faced with defenses of the same caliber as the offense (Baltimore, Chicago, and to a lesser extent Carolina) the offense had some efficiency issues. Here's the lesson: When in doubt, run the ball. Even if it's an 8 man front, run the ball. To keep the offense balanced, run the ball. Even if it's two yards and a cloud of dust (or snow in the Chicago case), run the ball. Even if you're behind in the game, run the ball. The Saints last year always got in trouble when Brees started slinging the ball all over the field. If the defense succeeded in unbalancing our offense, then they got themselves in trouble. I still don't know how many times Brees checked out of a run due to scheme, or how many times it was that Coach Payton called for passing the ball. But what I do know is that Brees needs to limit his attempts to under 40 per game if at all possible. Consider that he threw 45 attempts in the Baltimore game and 49 attempts in the championship game. In both games the rushing game was under 20 attempts by the RBs. So I ask, do you think Coach Payton has learned his lesson and will keep the rushing offense balanced at all costs. Especially when playing exceptional defenses? You make the call. SFIAH
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06-17-2007, 08:25 PM	#4
bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71	i think payton said after game he should have run more.even greatest coach of all time have made errors.i feel at last we have a 1st class coach and organization.let's support them 110% and on to the super bowl.After this year,we start to worry about losing our fine asst. coaches who have a lot to with our gain without much public recognition.
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06-17-2007, 12:10 PM	#2
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	i think running the ball is gonna be the key to us going to the SB this year. if deuce and reggie improve on last years running game, thatll be enough to keep our defense off the field and win games for us. i still say the best defense is keeping our offense on the field and chewing up the clock with the running game. in a way im hoping brees' numbers drop this year and deuces/reggies yard on the ground increase dramatically.

06-17-2007, 03:23 PM	#3
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	i agree, but especially on the drive we coulda took the lead. with that said he is still a helluva coach.

06-18-2007, 09:43 AM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	So true. Just take the snap, turn around and say, "here you go Deuce. Go get a 1st down."