Marvin Mitchell Signed

D24pick · 06-19-2007, 04:58 PM

mitchell was prospected as the next coming of ray lewis in his freshman season at tennessee. he played under expectations, and then got injured. when he came back healthy (senior year), he lived up to those expectations. the guy is a beast, and i wouldnt mind him starting over simmons

papz · 06-19-2007, 05:18 PM

I'd take Simmons any and everyday over Mitchell. The guy had a decent senior season... let's not get that worked up about him. His mid 4.8ish speed doesn't bold too well for a starting spot. We're not going to hit a Colston every year.

Euphoria · 06-19-2007, 05:31 PM

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...nmitchell.html

Mitchell over Simmons, if that isn't over-hype I don't know what is...

Mitchell has a lot... A LOT to learn. Totally respect the Saints for taking him aboard and giving him a shot to make the team but he'll be fighting for his life to make the cut. You also failed to mention his arrest.

papz · 06-19-2007, 05:34 PM

And here I thought it was mid 4.8ish... I knew it was in the 4.9s. There are offensive lineman who runs faster than he does.

hagan714 · 06-19-2007, 07:48 PM

Bushrod
I keep forgetting about him. I hope that is not a sign.

Danno · 06-19-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by papz

And here I thought it was mid 4.8ish... I knew it was in the 4.9s. There are offensive lineman who runs faster than he does.

There are O-linemen that ran the 40 faster than Ray Lewis' 4.8 also.

papz · 06-20-2007, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

There are O-linemen that ran the 40 faster than Ray Lewis' 4.8 also.

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

Danno · 06-20-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

It is rare, but it does happen, looking at this years prospects only...

Joe Thomas 4.92
Joe Staley 4.82
Allen Barbe 4.84
Jermon Bushrod 4.95
Gabe Hall 4.91

Danno · 06-20-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

Originally Posted by papz

I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

Yes, his 40 time is slow, that doesn't always mean he'll play slow. I personally feel 40 times are important, but way over-rated. Ray Lewis had a slow 40 time, he's one of the fastest MLB's I've ever seen play. Its all gonna depend on how fast he plays with pads on.

But yeah, if he has to race someone 40 yards, from a complete stop, in shorts and a T-shirt, untouched, he's in big trouble.

Or if he doesn't play faster than he times, he won't last long, obviously.

papz · 06-20-2007, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

ALL the MLB's in the league currently, I'm sure you would find a whole bunch who run around a 4.8. If he were a OLB 4.8 would be a big problem. Do you think Vaughn Johnson or Sam Mills ran a 4.5 forty? Got news for you, the answer is NOPE!

4.8 isn't the same as 4.95... and I doubt Johnson and Mills ran close to 5.0 40 either.

Yes, his 40 time is slow, that doesn't always mean he'll play slow. I personally feel 40 times are important, but way over-rated. Ray Lewis had a slow 40 time, he's one of the fastest MLB's I've ever seen play. Its all gonna depend on how fast he plays with pads on.

But yeah, if he has to race someone 40 yards, from a complete stop, in shorts and a T-shirt, untouched, he's in big trouble.

Or if he doesn't play faster than he times, he won't last long, obviously.

I guess we'll find out on the field. I'm not rooting against the guy, but the odds are stacked against him. He's got a lot of work to do.

06-19-2007, 08:03 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by papz And here I thought it was mid 4.8ish... I knew it was in the 4.9s. There are offensive lineman who runs faster than he does. There are O-linemen that ran the 40 faster than Ray Lewis' 4.8 also.

06-20-2007, 09:07 AM	#17
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Originally Posted by Danno There are O-linemen that ran the 40 faster than Ray Lewis' 4.8 also. I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow.

06-20-2007, 09:34 AM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by papz I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow. It is rare, but it does happen, looking at this years prospects only... Joe Thomas 4.92 Joe Staley 4.82 Allen Barbe 4.84 Jermon Bushrod 4.95 Gabe Hall 4.91

06-20-2007, 09:49 AM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by papz I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow. Originally Posted by papz I don't know of any offensive lineman that runs below a straight 4.9. I'm gladly eat my crow if you can prove otherwise though Danno. Regardless, Mitchell is still very slow. Yes, his 40 time is slow, that doesn't always mean he'll play slow. I personally feel 40 times are important, but way over-rated. Ray Lewis had a slow 40 time, he's one of the fastest MLB's I've ever seen play. Its all gonna depend on how fast he plays with pads on. But yeah, if he has to race someone 40 yards, from a complete stop, in shorts and a T-shirt, untouched, he's in big trouble. Or if he doesn't play faster than he times, he won't last long, obviously.

06-20-2007, 10:01 AM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Originally Posted by saintsmissile ALL the MLB's in the league currently, I'm sure you would find a whole bunch who run around a 4.8. If he were a OLB 4.8 would be a big problem. Do you think Vaughn Johnson or Sam Mills ran a 4.5 forty? Got news for you, the answer is NOPE! 4.8 isn't the same as 4.95... and I doubt Johnson and Mills ran close to 5.0 40 either. Yes, his 40 time is slow, that doesn't always mean he'll play slow. I personally feel 40 times are important, but way over-rated. Ray Lewis had a slow 40 time, he's one of the fastest MLB's I've ever seen play. Its all gonna depend on how fast he plays with pads on. But yeah, if he has to race someone 40 yards, from a complete stop, in shorts and a T-shirt, untouched, he's in big trouble. Or if he doesn't play faster than he times, he won't last long, obviously. I guess we'll find out on the field. I'm not rooting against the guy, but the odds are stacked against him. He's got a lot of work to do.

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06-19-2007, 05:18 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	I'd take Simmons any and everyday over Mitchell. The guy had a decent senior season... let's not get that worked up about him. His mid 4.8ish speed doesn't bold too well for a starting spot. We're not going to hit a Colston every year.

06-19-2007, 05:31 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...nmitchell.html Mitchell over Simmons, if that isn't over-hype I don't know what is... Mitchell has a lot... A LOT to learn. Totally respect the Saints for taking him aboard and giving him a shot to make the team but he'll be fighting for his life to make the cut. You also failed to mention his arrest.

06-19-2007, 05:34 PM	#14
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	And here I thought it was mid 4.8ish... I knew it was in the 4.9s. There are offensive lineman who runs faster than he does.

06-19-2007, 07:48 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Bushrod I keep forgetting about him. I hope that is not a sign.