Peter King>monday Morning Qb

hagan714 · 06-23-2007, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by bobcat4u2

The reason elway was in montana's shadow was joe's clutch performance's in playoff's and sb's.If drew or anyone else matches that,they will becme the leader over manning or anyone else in their generation

Drew will be loved thats for sure.
Manning is loved and repect for completely different reasons than the ones listed here. He actually put his body one the line for team. Really! He had his chances to leave but kept signing back on with the saints and the fans. He got killed out there year in and year out. Kept coming back for more. The saints dumped all over him and sent him to the oilers of all teams after all he had done for us. This made him even more of a icon for the fan. We the fans feel we owe Him alot of extra love because of what he gave to US, THE FANS.
Sorry until someone else sacrifices as much as Archie did for this team he will never be replaced. A close second maybe but never above him. Archie stands for more than just wins and looses.

SapperSaint · 06-23-2007, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Drew will be loved thats for sure.
Manning is loved and repect for completely different reasons than the ones listed here. He actually put his body one the line for team. Really! He had his chances to leave but kept signing back on with the saints and the fans. He got killed out there year in and year out. Kept coming back for more. The saints dumped all over him and sent him to the oilers of all teams after all he had done for us. This made him even more of a icon for the fan. We the fans feel we owe Him alot of extra love because of what he gave to US, THE FANS.
Sorry until someone else sacrifices as much as Archie did for this team he will never be replaced. A close second maybe but never above him. Archie stands for more than just wins and looses.

Perfectly said Hag!

No one will be greater than Archie. If you were not alive to see him play you may not understand the true reason for the love for Archie that older fans have for him. I know I cried the day my mom threw my Archie jersey away (because I had worn it slap out). I still have my black and white photo of me (age 8, no BS) and Archie.

Don't get me wrong, with one year under Drew's belt he has become "The Saints", but he will never be Archie. That's why Drew's number is 9. (figuretively)

blacksaint · 06-23-2007, 08:14 PM

It was a discussion between Payton and Drew, no one on this forum will ever question the place in glory that Archie hold in Saints history and our hearts. But you can't tell me if Drew win about three Superbowl's he won't be on that same pedestal as Archie, trust me guys Drew would become the bench mark for every other QB to follow, like Sean Payton will become the bench mark for all coaches who follow him. When we talk about defenses we always compare them to the DOME PATROL and rightfully so, if Brees win one Superbowl in a New Orleans uniform, every QB that comes through here will be compared to Drew hands down. Archie will forever be loved and respected for what he meant to the team, the fans, the community, and the whole Gulf Region, but if Drew gets that ring, he would be worship like a god.

papz · 06-23-2007, 08:26 PM

Very well put blacksaint and I definately agree with that.

hagan714 · 06-23-2007, 08:54 PM

the two would be gods. i agree. But Archies' story is completly different. no better or worse than the superbowl winner. Archie has the goal that all other QB's have to messure up to. Guts and loyality. that is my point. Drew is the closest thing I have seen to him. Now add a superbowl ring and I am sure Archie will be willing to slide over and make room for him on that pedestal. But Drew has to prove the tuffness. That is something I am sure he will do. No one QB will replace the other. No way.

blacksaint · 06-23-2007, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

the two would be gods. i agree. But Archies' story is completly different. no better or worse than the superbowl winner. Archie has the goal that all other QB's have to messure up to. Guts and loyality. that is my point. Drew is the closest thing I have seen to him. Now add a superbowl ring and I am sure Archie will be willing to slide over and make room for him on that pedestal. But Drew has to prove the tuffness. That is something I am sure he will do. No one QB will replace the other. No way.

I think Drew Brees proved his toughness last year, and nobody has the right to question it. Coming from that career threatening shoulder injury and having the type of season he had last year proves his toughness and guts without a doubt.

SapperSaint · 06-24-2007, 07:20 AM

We are all right.

Drew will and is right now, loved by all Saints fans. How can you not.?.?

When Drew leads us to a SB victory, retires with a Saints jersey on his back, yes, I will put him in the same heart felt feelings I have for Archie. Hell, I love Bobby for less reasons. It's just great that we have a great QB, and not just great because he plays almost flawlessly.

cadilacin · 06-24-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

It was a discussion between Payton and Drew, no one on this forum will ever question the place in glory that Archie hold in Saints history and our hearts. But you can't tell me if Drew win about three Superbowl's he won't be on that same pedestal as Archie, trust me guys Drew would become the bench mark for every other QB to follow, like Sean Payton will become the bench mark for all coaches who follow him. When we talk about defenses we always compare them to the DOME PATROL and rightfully so, if Brees win one Superbowl in a New Orleans uniform, every QB that comes through here will be compared to Drew hands down. Archie will forever be loved and respected for what he meant to the team, the fans, the community, and the whole Gulf Region, but if Drew gets that ring, he would be worship like a god.

Well said sir. I like what Archie was for us, but "when" Drew brings the ring home he'll be put in a class all by himself. But I did love the "guts and loyalty" of Archie.

06-23-2007, 07:22 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by bobcat4u2 The reason elway was in montana's shadow was joe's clutch performance's in playoff's and sb's.If drew or anyone else matches that,they will becme the leader over manning or anyone else in their generation Drew will be loved thats for sure. Manning is loved and repect for completely different reasons than the ones listed here. He actually put his body one the line for team. Really! He had his chances to leave but kept signing back on with the saints and the fans. He got killed out there year in and year out. Kept coming back for more. The saints dumped all over him and sent him to the oilers of all teams after all he had done for us. This made him even more of a icon for the fan. We the fans feel we owe Him alot of extra love because of what he gave to US, THE FANS. Sorry until someone else sacrifices as much as Archie did for this team he will never be replaced. A close second maybe but never above him. Archie stands for more than just wins and looses.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

06-23-2007, 07:40 AM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by hagan714 Drew will be loved thats for sure. Manning is loved and repect for completely different reasons than the ones listed here. He actually put his body one the line for team. Really! He had his chances to leave but kept signing back on with the saints and the fans. He got killed out there year in and year out. Kept coming back for more. The saints dumped all over him and sent him to the oilers of all teams after all he had done for us. This made him even more of a icon for the fan. We the fans feel we owe Him alot of extra love because of what he gave to US, THE FANS. Sorry until someone else sacrifices as much as Archie did for this team he will never be replaced. A close second maybe but never above him. Archie stands for more than just wins and looses. Perfectly said Hag! No one will be greater than Archie. If you were not alive to see him play you may not understand the true reason for the love for Archie that older fans have for him. I know I cried the day my mom threw my Archie jersey away (because I had worn it slap out). I still have my black and white photo of me (age 8, no BS) and Archie. Don't get me wrong, with one year under Drew's belt he has become "The Saints", but he will never be Archie. That's why Drew's number is 9. (figuretively)
	"We are number one. All others are number two, or lower." -The Sphinx http://blackandgold.com/groups/28-ou...tsman-s-corner

06-23-2007, 08:14 PM	#3
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	It was a discussion between Payton and Drew, no one on this forum will ever question the place in glory that Archie hold in Saints history and our hearts. But you can't tell me if Drew win about three Superbowl's he won't be on that same pedestal as Archie, trust me guys Drew would become the bench mark for every other QB to follow, like Sean Payton will become the bench mark for all coaches who follow him. When we talk about defenses we always compare them to the DOME PATROL and rightfully so, if Brees win one Superbowl in a New Orleans uniform, every QB that comes through here will be compared to Drew hands down. Archie will forever be loved and respected for what he meant to the team, the fans, the community, and the whole Gulf Region, but if Drew gets that ring, he would be worship like a god.
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06-23-2007, 08:54 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	the two would be gods. i agree. But Archies' story is completly different. no better or worse than the superbowl winner. Archie has the goal that all other QB's have to messure up to. Guts and loyality. that is my point. Drew is the closest thing I have seen to him. Now add a superbowl ring and I am sure Archie will be willing to slide over and make room for him on that pedestal. But Drew has to prove the tuffness. That is something I am sure he will do. No one QB will replace the other. No way.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

06-23-2007, 09:28 PM	#6
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Originally Posted by hagan714 the two would be gods. i agree. But Archies' story is completly different. no better or worse than the superbowl winner. Archie has the goal that all other QB's have to messure up to. Guts and loyality. that is my point. Drew is the closest thing I have seen to him. Now add a superbowl ring and I am sure Archie will be willing to slide over and make room for him on that pedestal. But Drew has to prove the tuffness. That is something I am sure he will do. No one QB will replace the other. No way. I think Drew Brees proved his toughness last year, and nobody has the right to question it. Coming from that career threatening shoulder injury and having the type of season he had last year proves his toughness and guts without a doubt.

06-23-2007, 08:26 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Very well put blacksaint and I definately agree with that.

06-24-2007, 07:20 AM	#7
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	We are all right. Drew will and is right now, loved by all Saints fans. How can you not.?.? When Drew leads us to a SB victory, retires with a Saints jersey on his back, yes, I will put him in the same heart felt feelings I have for Archie. Hell, I love Bobby for less reasons. It's just great that we have a great QB, and not just great because he plays almost flawlessly.

06-24-2007, 09:23 PM	#8
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	well said Originally Posted by blacksaint It was a discussion between Payton and Drew, no one on this forum will ever question the place in glory that Archie hold in Saints history and our hearts. But you can't tell me if Drew win about three Superbowl's he won't be on that same pedestal as Archie, trust me guys Drew would become the bench mark for every other QB to follow, like Sean Payton will become the bench mark for all coaches who follow him. When we talk about defenses we always compare them to the DOME PATROL and rightfully so, if Brees win one Superbowl in a New Orleans uniform, every QB that comes through here will be compared to Drew hands down. Archie will forever be loved and respected for what he meant to the team, the fans, the community, and the whole Gulf Region, but if Drew gets that ring, he would be worship like a god. Well said sir. I like what Archie was for us, but "when" Drew brings the ring home he'll be put in a class all by himself. But I did love the "guts and loyalty" of Archie.