Walker Would Be A Nice Addition To The D-line.

blacksaint · 06-22-2007, 01:10 AM

DT Walker prepared for free agency after talks with Bills hit impasse

By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer
June 20, 2007

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- From Philadelphia to Buffalo and potentially back again: Defensive tackle Darwin Walker is prepared for anything -- even becoming a free agent in August -- after contract talks with the Bills reached an impasse Wednesday.

"Whether we're done talking, I don't want to go that far," Walker's agent, Albert Irby, told The Associated Press after talks broke down. "I've got to hope they change their mind, because I can tell you we're not changing ours."

And that could mean Walker's tenure with the Bills might be a short one in what is quickly becoming one of the team's most convoluted and unusual acquisitions.

A seven-year veteran, Walker was acquired by the Bills in March as part of a trade that sent Pro Bowl linebacker Takeo Spikes to Philadelphia.

Walker has two years left on his contract, but has yet to report to the Bills after stipulating Buffalo negotiate a new deal.

The Bills, however, included a clause in the trade in which they would receive a sixth-round draft pick and return Walker to Philadelphia if the player didn't report by Aug. 5.

Barring a breakthrough, Irby believes the Bills will have no choice but to send Walker back to the Eagles, at which point he expects Philadelphia to release his client.

The Bills were not immediately available for comment. The Eagles, meanwhile, have yet to discuss their intentions should they reacquire Walker.

Bills general manager Marv Levy said earlier this month that the team was prepared to move on without Walker.

Talks broke down after Irby said he rejected the Bills' latest offer of a one-year, $1.3 million deal. That's what Walker was scheduled to be paid this season under his current contract, which was to also pay him $1.4 million in 2008.

Irby said he's open to a one-year deal, but not for that kind of money.

"It doesn't make any sense," he said. "At $1.3 million, Darwin would be the lowest-paid five-year starter in the league."

Walker has 26 1/2 sacks over the past five years, making him the fourth-most productive defensive tackle during that span. He's also an agile and penetrating tackle who would fit the Bills' defensive scheme.

Irby said he's confident Walker will receive better offers in free agency even in August, when most teams are a week or two into training camp and their rosters relatively set.

Walker faced being fined by Buffalo for missing the team's three mandatory minicamps earlier this month.

"It's left me disappointed," Irby said, noting most teams have restructured contracts when acquiring players in the past. "They, for some shocking reason to me, knew this and made the trade and then didn't want to do the deal."

Irby held out hope that the Bills might increase their offer by July 25, when players report for the start of training camp.

"This could be a strategy of theirs because nothing is going on between now and then," Irby said. "Before I say, 'Not optimistic,' I've seen these kind of deals before where at the 11th hour something gets done. So the door's cracked open."

"I think he would solidify the middle of our D-line, with Clancy and Hollis alternating on one side, Young and Walker alternating on the other, couple that with Grant and Smith crashing in from the outside, we will lead the league in sacks. Also, with that kind of pressure coming from the D-linemen, we wouldn't have to blitz our DBs to much which in turn will lead to more turnovers, one of our main concerns this season, creating more turnovers. Pressure, pressure, pressure, and you know how that ole saying goes; PRESSURE BUST PIPES, and the QBs on our roster are the pipes."

ScottF · 06-22-2007, 09:58 AM

$1.5 mill seems reasonable, but I realistically do not see us picking him up.

Payton scooped up Clancy as soon as he was available, which tells me that he is sold on the guy. A 4 man rotation would be a luxury

Then again, only Meachem is unsigned, and we just cleared some money with Lewis and Whitehead, so we should know exactly where we stand against the cap.

saintswhodi · 06-22-2007, 10:00 AM

I wouldn't mind Walker at all.

saintsfan1976 · 06-22-2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

Walker has 26 1/2 sacks over the past five years, making him the fourth-most productive defensive tackle during that span. He's also an agile and penetrating tackle who would fit the Bills' defensive scheme.

I wouldn't mind this kind of production either....

Did Walker play opposite Hollis in Philly??

I like the depth and I love the idea of having fresh men on the line to improve our "run-stuffing". (sounds like my mom's thanksgiving dinner)

biloxi-indian · 06-22-2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

$1.5 mill seems reasonable, but I realistically do not see us picking him up.

Payton scooped up Clancy as soon as he was available, which tells me that he is sold on the guy. A 4 man rotation would be a luxury

Then again, only Meachem is unsigned, and we just cleared some money with Lewis and Whitehead, so we should know exactly where we stand against the cap.

Payton knew Marion Hobby coached Clancy at Ole Miss...so Clancy wasn't all that much of a mystry! Hobby most likely pitched Clancy to Payton!

I don't know if anyone is pulling for Walker like Hobby was most likely doing for Clancy.

saintsfan1976 · 06-22-2007, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

I don't know if anyone is pulling for Walker like Hobby was most likely doing for Clancy.

Maybe Hollis is???

blacksaint · 06-22-2007, 10:12 PM

New Orleans Saints ties to the NFC East:

COACHES:
Sean Payton - Head Coach
Eagles,1997-98; Giants,1999-02; Cowboys,2003-05

Gary Gibbs - Defensive Coordinator
Cowboys,2002-05

Joe Vitt - Assistant HC/Linebackers
Eagles,1995-98

George Henshaw - Senior Offensive Assistant/RBs
Giants,1993-96

Pete Carmichael Jr. - Quarterbacks
Redskins,2001

Tom Hayes - Defensive Backs
Redskins,1995-00

PLAYERS:
Kendrick Clancy DT - Giants,2005; Cardinals,2006
Terrence Copper WR - Cowboys,2004-05
Scott Fujita LB - Cowboys,2005
Lance Legree DT - Giants,2001-04
Anton Palepoi DE - Cardinals,2005
David Patten WR - Giants,1997-98; Redskins,2005-06
Rob Petitti OT - Cowboys,2005
Scoot Shanle LB - Cowboys,2004-05
Mark Simoneau LB - Cowboys,2003-05
Hollis Thomas DT - Eagles,1996-05

"With all these ties to the NFC East, someone should have an insight on this guys skills, he's a hell of a physical presence in the middle. If we don't seriously consider this young man, we may come to regret it.

bobcat4u2 · 06-23-2007, 07:47 AM

If this lasts untill 2 weeks of training camp,our present dt's will have had more time to earn or lose their spot.also,the condition he is in will have large impact on payton's interest.

hagan714 · 06-23-2007, 08:04 AM

If Sean wants to add another NFC East defensive player than by all means do so. He has done a great job selecting players from that division so far. If Walker wants to much money then he may go the way Clancy did. Play for someone else then when they relize it was a mistake to pay them that much up front, we can scoop them up from thier reject pile.

06-22-2007, 01:10 AM	#1
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Walker Would Be A Nice Addition To The D-line. DT Walker prepared for free agency after talks with Bills hit impasse By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer June 20, 2007 BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- From Philadelphia to Buffalo and potentially back again: Defensive tackle Darwin Walker is prepared for anything -- even becoming a free agent in August -- after contract talks with the Bills reached an impasse Wednesday. "Whether we're done talking, I don't want to go that far," Walker's agent, Albert Irby, told The Associated Press after talks broke down. "I've got to hope they change their mind, because I can tell you we're not changing ours." And that could mean Walker's tenure with the Bills might be a short one in what is quickly becoming one of the team's most convoluted and unusual acquisitions. A seven-year veteran, Walker was acquired by the Bills in March as part of a trade that sent Pro Bowl linebacker Takeo Spikes to Philadelphia. Walker has two years left on his contract, but has yet to report to the Bills after stipulating Buffalo negotiate a new deal. The Bills, however, included a clause in the trade in which they would receive a sixth-round draft pick and return Walker to Philadelphia if the player didn't report by Aug. 5. Barring a breakthrough, Irby believes the Bills will have no choice but to send Walker back to the Eagles, at which point he expects Philadelphia to release his client. The Bills were not immediately available for comment. The Eagles, meanwhile, have yet to discuss their intentions should they reacquire Walker. Bills general manager Marv Levy said earlier this month that the team was prepared to move on without Walker. Talks broke down after Irby said he rejected the Bills' latest offer of a one-year, $1.3 million deal. That's what Walker was scheduled to be paid this season under his current contract, which was to also pay him $1.4 million in 2008. Irby said he's open to a one-year deal, but not for that kind of money. "It doesn't make any sense," he said. "At $1.3 million, Darwin would be the lowest-paid five-year starter in the league." Walker has 26 1/2 sacks over the past five years, making him the fourth-most productive defensive tackle during that span. He's also an agile and penetrating tackle who would fit the Bills' defensive scheme. Irby said he's confident Walker will receive better offers in free agency even in August, when most teams are a week or two into training camp and their rosters relatively set. Walker faced being fined by Buffalo for missing the team's three mandatory minicamps earlier this month. "It's left me disappointed," Irby said, noting most teams have restructured contracts when acquiring players in the past. "They, for some shocking reason to me, knew this and made the trade and then didn't want to do the deal." Irby held out hope that the Bills might increase their offer by July 25, when players report for the start of training camp. "This could be a strategy of theirs because nothing is going on between now and then," Irby said. "Before I say, 'Not optimistic,' I've seen these kind of deals before where at the 11th hour something gets done. So the door's cracked open." "I think he would solidify the middle of our D-line, with Clancy and Hollis alternating on one side, Young and Walker alternating on the other, couple that with Grant and Smith crashing in from the outside, we will lead the league in sacks. Also, with that kind of pressure coming from the D-linemen, we wouldn't have to blitz our DBs to much which in turn will lead to more turnovers, one of our main concerns this season, creating more turnovers. Pressure, pressure, pressure, and you know how that ole saying goes; PRESSURE BUST PIPES, and the QBs on our roster are the pipes."
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06-22-2007, 10:11 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by blacksaint Walker has 26 1/2 sacks over the past five years, making him the fourth-most productive defensive tackle during that span. He's also an agile and penetrating tackle who would fit the Bills' defensive scheme. I wouldn't mind this kind of production either.... Did Walker play opposite Hollis in Philly?? I like the depth and I love the idea of having fresh men on the line to improve our "run-stuffing". (sounds like my mom's thanksgiving dinner)

06-22-2007, 10:11 AM	#5
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Originally Posted by ScottF $1.5 mill seems reasonable, but I realistically do not see us picking him up. Payton scooped up Clancy as soon as he was available, which tells me that he is sold on the guy. A 4 man rotation would be a luxury Then again, only Meachem is unsigned, and we just cleared some money with Lewis and Whitehead, so we should know exactly where we stand against the cap. Payton knew Marion Hobby coached Clancy at Ole Miss...so Clancy wasn't all that much of a mystry! Hobby most likely pitched Clancy to Payton! I don't know if anyone is pulling for Walker like Hobby was most likely doing for Clancy.

06-22-2007, 10:19 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by biloxi-indian I don't know if anyone is pulling for Walker like Hobby was most likely doing for Clancy. Maybe Hollis is???

06-22-2007, 10:12 PM	#7
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	New Orleans Saints ties to the NFC East: COACHES: Sean Payton - Head Coach Eagles,1997-98; Giants,1999-02; Cowboys,2003-05 Gary Gibbs - Defensive Coordinator Cowboys,2002-05 Joe Vitt - Assistant HC/Linebackers Eagles,1995-98 George Henshaw - Senior Offensive Assistant/RBs Giants,1993-96 Pete Carmichael Jr. - Quarterbacks Redskins,2001 Tom Hayes - Defensive Backs Redskins,1995-00 PLAYERS: Kendrick Clancy DT - Giants,2005; Cardinals,2006 Terrence Copper WR - Cowboys,2004-05 Scott Fujita LB - Cowboys,2005 Lance Legree DT - Giants,2001-04 Anton Palepoi DE - Cardinals,2005 David Patten WR - Giants,1997-98; Redskins,2005-06 Rob Petitti OT - Cowboys,2005 Scoot Shanle LB - Cowboys,2004-05 Mark Simoneau LB - Cowboys,2003-05 Hollis Thomas DT - Eagles,1996-05 "With all these ties to the NFC East, someone should have an insight on this guys skills, he's a hell of a physical presence in the middle. If we don't seriously consider this young man, we may come to regret it.
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06-22-2007, 09:58 AM	#2
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	$1.5 mill seems reasonable, but I realistically do not see us picking him up. Payton scooped up Clancy as soon as he was available, which tells me that he is sold on the guy. A 4 man rotation would be a luxury Then again, only Meachem is unsigned, and we just cleared some money with Lewis and Whitehead, so we should know exactly where we stand against the cap.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I wouldn't mind Walker at all.

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bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71	If this lasts untill 2 weeks of training camp,our present dt's will have had more time to earn or lose their spot.also,the condition he is in will have large impact on payton's interest.
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06-23-2007, 08:04 AM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	If Sean wants to add another NFC East defensive player than by all means do so. He has done a great job selecting players from that division so far. If Walker wants to much money then he may go the way Clancy did. Play for someone else then when they relize it was a mistake to pay them that much up front, we can scoop them up from thier reject pile.