New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Dome Patrol #1 Linebacking Corp.... (https://blackandgold.com/saints/16487-dome-patrol-1-linebacking-corp.html)

FatiusJeebs 07-04-2007 02:08 AM

NFL Network.....
 
The NFL Network has been doing a series of Top 10's lately. They've had Top 10 RB's, Top 10 feuds, Top 10 draft steals, so on and so forth. I just saw a commercial for the next one and its the Top 10 linebacking corps. Now....we ALL know darn well our precious Dome Patrol will be on that list. But where do you think they will fall? The only corp to make the pro bowl all the same year but....no championships. What do you guys think??

I'm gonna guess 3 just because of the lack of SB.

ScottyRo 07-04-2007 09:05 AM

I think #1 and even though I am biased I think the best argument is what you already mentioned.

There are many, many LB Corps that have SB championship, but there is only ONE that has EVER had all four starters in the pro bowl. Also, that's not just all THREE starters, that's four.

Like I said, I know I am biased for them, but that seems like a pretty strong argument in favor of them being number one. However, counting on the bias against small markets in the media, 3 may be a pretty good guess. They'll probably put the '85 Bears up there because of Singletary.

Euphoria 07-04-2007 12:17 PM

Its the whole Payton Manning argument... yeah he good but will never be considered the top or best qb's because he has no ring.

Nemesis 07-04-2007 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyRo (Post 133249)
I think #1 and even though I am biased I think the best argument is what you already mentioned.

There are many, many LB Corps that have SB championship, but there is only ONE that has EVER had all four starters in the pro bowl. Also, that's not just all THREE starters, that's four.

Like I said, I know I am biased for them, but that seems like a pretty strong argument in favor of them being number one. However, counting on the bias against small markets in the media, 3 may be a pretty good guess. They'll probably put the '85 Bears up there because of Singletary.




My top 3:

Giants:
LT-Hall
Pepper Johnson
Harry Carson-Hall
Carlton Banks

Saints:
Dome Patrol

Ravens:
Boulware
Lewis
Sharpe

Nothing wrong with bias. I'm hoping the Saints come in at least 2nd.

ATX_SAINT 07-04-2007 02:15 PM

I was watching NFL Network this morning and Marshall Faulk has them number one on his list.

Nemesis 07-04-2007 02:28 PM

I placed the Giants over the Saints, due to LT. Rickey was disruptive. LT was destructive. Fools didn't want to catch the ball around him, and involuntarily turned their body away while carrying the ball.

The only other LB I've seen come close to having that effect was Ray Lewis in his prime. Well, maybe Lambert? It ain't Urlacher. I've seen plenty RBs attempt to truck him, and a rookie Matrix taunted him. Players really didn't do that to LT and Lewis.

blacksaint 07-04-2007 03:02 PM

I believe in my heart that the Saints are the #1 Linebacking corp ever without a doubt. But they probably won't be #1 on the show because of the lack of respect, they'll acknowledge that they were great but never put them in their rightful place at the top. It's Ricky Jackson all over again, they acknowledge he was great, but, there's always a but when it comes to our great warriors, and it's a shame. Well, the Top Ten Linebacking Corps comes on today at 8 'O' clock, so we'll find out how much respect we receive from the so-called experts.

FireVenturi 07-04-2007 07:58 PM

without a doubt top 3, that giants team is also without a doubt no.1

blacksaint 07-04-2007 09:05 PM

Dome Patrol #1 Linebacking Corp....
 
The Dome Patrol were rated the #1 rated Linebacking corp over the likes of LT and his Giants, Mike Singletary and his Bears, Willie Lanier and his Chiefs and everybody else on the list.
Congragulation: Ricky Jackson, Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, and Vaughn Johnson, you guys finally got your well deserving credit.:D

saintswhodi 07-04-2007 09:07 PM

Who rated them?

blacksaint 07-04-2007 09:41 PM

The show came on the NFL channel and the people they interviewed were ex-players, commentators, reporters, and such. San Francisco 49'ers ex-RB Roger Craig said, if the Saints had a offense when the Dome Patrol played they would have won two or three Superbowls, he also said he hated playing against the Saints because they were so violent, nothing against the Giants they were great but the Saints Linebackers were destructive and brutal. See for yourselves, it's a real nice look at our boys

note: The show repeat times.
Today 11:00pm; 2:00am
THU. 1:00pm; 5:00pm
SUN. 11:00am; 8:00pm

gengizk 07-04-2007 09:56 PM

The only reason they ranked #1 was because of Sam Mills.:cool:

blacksaint 07-05-2007 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gengizk (Post 133304)
The only reason they ranked #1 was because of Sam Mills.:cool:

You must have never seen the Dome Patrol in action? The heart and soul of that defense was Ricky Jackson, but the reason why they ranked them #1 was because of the play of all four guys, period.

redwolf_5 07-05-2007 12:23 AM

Vaughan Johnson
 
Personally, I liked Vaughan the best, even from his USFL Jacksonville Bulls days. Tough hitter, versatile, decent pass coverage guy, can blitz well enough. I think his problem was he was the Gemini or "Jack of all trades" if you will of the group. He did all well, but no one redeeming quality, save maybe for that aforementioned hitting. Jackson was the blitz man on one side, Swilling especially known for it on the other and good pass coverage guy, and Sam Mills good lateral guy and of course he was famous for being "too small" and 'small school" guy to play in the NFL. Vaughan had really none or of that, or maybe ALL of that (decent height if I recall). And to top it off, from every interview id seen of him, all around good and cool guy. never met him though. any one know what he's up to these days? glad as a group they got their due.

BJSim 07-05-2007 12:41 AM

I'm happy they got their due... I've argued for years that they were the best linebacking squad. Now I can point to NFL Network and say, "see, the *experts* say so too".

Not that I needed it, I'd still be saying it if they came in second.

gengizk 07-05-2007 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksaint (Post 133309)
You must have never seen the Dome Patrol in action? The heart and soul of that defense was Ricky Jackson, but the reason why they ranked them #1 was because of the play of all four guys, period.

Yes but Ricky Jackson was never a panther. Sam Mills was. That is the only reason why the dome patrol was voted #1.:mrgreen:

hagan714 07-05-2007 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gengizk (Post 133314)
Yes but Ricky Jackson was never a panther. Sam Mills was. That is the only reason why the dome patrol was voted #1.:mrgreen:

Ok you guys in carolina got 1 part of the patrol. Sorry you never got listed. Keep trying one day you might get there. The NFL network will do a DL and you might get listed there. doubt it but maybe.

Nemesis 07-05-2007 06:43 AM

I just looked it up, and that Giants bunch also boasted Gary Reasons. I couldn't name any other LBs besides Lambert and Ham with the Steel Curtain, so I placed the Ravens ahead. I'll see how they fared, if I can catch a rerun of the show. Anyway, congrats to the Dome Patrol for being picked #1. I know those cats are proud.

sac-a-lait 07-05-2007 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksaint (Post 133309)
You must have never seen the Dome Patrol in action? The heart and soul of that defense was Ricky Jackson, but the reason why they ranked them #1 was because of the play of all four guys, period.


That was an awesome bunch with Swilling coming from one side and Jackson from the other with Vaughn and Mills in the middle.

Jim Mora, on that same show. said if he was in danger and had to pick one guy he had coached to be with him, his pick would be Ricky Jackson. He was a stud.

BleedBlack&Gold 07-05-2007 09:38 AM

Nice Thread
 
anyone else up for cloning these four?

mjf150 07-05-2007 12:51 PM

Is anyone here familiar with Wikipedia? If so, I noticed that the "Dome Patrol" has not gotten their due. That is to say, there is not an article about them. Each member of the DP has an individual article, however, the corp as a whole does not. I would think that now would be as good a time as any to write an article about the DP, especailly considering their recent accolades. I believe I can write the article, but I need some help putting some sources together. The following facts would have to be included: 1) The years the corp was completely intact. 2) The fact that the entire squad started the Pro-Bowl (I believe that had never happen, or has since been accomplished). 3) The total number of Pro-Bowls between all members, both with the Saints and career. 4) The recent accolade of being named the #1 LB corp of all-time.

Anyone else care to add to this, or have any sources for documentation purposes?

Papa Voodoo 07-05-2007 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwolf_5 (Post 133310)
Personally, I liked Vaughan the best, even from his USFL Jacksonville Bulls days. Tough hitter, versatile, decent pass coverage guy, can blitz well enough. I think his problem was he was the Gemini or "Jack of all trades" if you will of the group. He did all well, but no one redeeming quality, save maybe for that aforementioned hitting. Jackson was the blitz man on one side, Swilling especially known for it on the other and good pass coverage guy, and Sam Mills good lateral guy and of course he was famous for being "too small" and 'small school" guy to play in the NFL. Vaughan had really none or of that, or maybe ALL of that (decent height if I recall). And to top it off, from every interview id seen of him, all around good and cool guy. never met him though. any one know what he's up to these days? glad as a group they got their due.

You forgot to mention thet no one ran at Johnson. That was the last person you wanted to run at.

Euphoria 07-05-2007 01:48 PM

Ahhh the LB'ing corps built by Mora-Benson era.

hagan714 07-05-2007 01:58 PM

Tom Benson acquired the franchise in 1985, and hired Jim Finks as general manager and Jim Mora as head coach.
Rickey Jackson New Orleans Saints (1981-1993)
the rest he gets credit for.

saintsrule 07-05-2007 03:33 PM

Nice to hear the Saints LBs were the best.

avlsaint55 07-05-2007 05:19 PM

It's great to see these guys get the respect and recognition they deserve. Excuse me, I'm having flashbacks of the mayhem and destruction caused by the Dome Patrol on sunday's. WOW!!! What a rush.

gengizk 07-05-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 133315)
Ok you guys in carolina got 1 part of the patrol. Sorry you never got listed. Keep trying one day you might get there. The NFL network will do a DL and you might get listed there. doubt it but maybe.


I'm just curious. Did the dome patrol even win a playoff game? Didnt think so.:D

FireVenturi 07-05-2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gengizk (Post 133356)
I'm just curious. Did the dome patrol even win a playoff game? Didnt think so.:D


congrats panthers fan on getting to the show once, but this year is ours. plus yall qb is too overrated to ever get back there!!!! peace

blacksaint 07-05-2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gengizk (Post 133314)
Yes but Ricky Jackson was never a panther. Sam Mills was. That is the only reason why the dome patrol was voted #1.:mrgreen:

Your right, Ricky Jackson was never a Panther. But he was a 49'er and he has a Superbowl ring to prove it. Did Sam Mills ever get a ring in Carolina? No, he didn't. So what exactly is your point?

Euphoria 07-05-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 133340)
Tom Benson acquired the franchise in 1985, and hired Jim Finks as general manager and Jim Mora as head coach.
Rickey Jackson New Orleans Saints (1981-1993)
the rest he gets credit for.


That puts the Dome Patrol coming together about 1986-1987... BENSON-Mora-Finks erra and the rest of the supporting cast coming in 1986-87 season. Ricky Jackson was there before everyone else... but he wasn't doing it all on his own until Benson bought the Saints and brought in the supporting cast. Some of you may see where I am going with this...

CheramieIII 07-05-2007 06:41 PM

With the Dhani signing maybe we are starting a new dome patrol this year? Not comparing are anything just yet, but don;t be surprised if our defense is top 5 this year. You know the offense will be top 5.

JOESAM2002 07-05-2007 08:42 PM

Are ya'll sure we signed him? I can't find anything on it except on wikipedia, and they report anything.

SapperSaint 07-06-2007 07:19 AM

Well, I saw the show, and just could not believe the love those guys got. Except from Madden, and who cares what that fat butt thinks. I don't think he was even alive long enough to see them play.

Anyway, great show and those guys FINALLY got some props! The part about the Saints never had a losing season with them was great.

LordOfEntropy 07-06-2007 09:46 AM

It's on Wikipedia now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhani_Jones

"Dhani Makalani Jones (born February 22, 1978, in San Diego, California) is an American football linebacker who just signed with the New Orleans Saints."

mighty12 07-08-2007 12:05 PM

Just finished watching the program and thought there was no way they could put The Dome Patrol #1 against the Steelers of the 70's and Giants of the early 90's. I thought maybe 5 or 6, because all those other corps won rings, but after watching the Dome Patrol again, and how the Saints had ZERO help for them on Offense or DL and DB they really ARE the best LBs. No other team had 4 LBs start in the pro Bowl, and the fact that none of them are getting any talk as Hall Of Fame is a disgrace to Pro Football.

lumm0x 07-08-2007 07:31 PM

Unfortunately much like the Pro Bowl, the Hall of Fame is nearly as much of a popularity contest. With some names the likes of Art Monk and Richard Dent not being enshrined as of yet and being overlooked for, in my opinion, much less worthy members (ala Michael Irvin this year).

I doubt we'll see any of the get in unfortunately.

FatiusJeebs 07-09-2007 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mighty12 (Post 133503)
Just finished watching the program and thought there was no way they could put The Dome Patrol #1 against the Steelers of the 70's and Giants of the early 90's. I thought maybe 5 or 6, because all those other corps won rings, but after watching the Dome Patrol again, and how the Saints had ZERO help for them on Offense or DL and DB they really ARE the best LBs. No other team had 4 LBs start in the pro Bowl, and the fact that none of them are getting any talk as Hall Of Fame is a disgrace to Pro Football.


BINGO! They basically did it all. ALONE. I remember our offensive coordinator was Carl Smith. TALK ABOUT UNIMAGINATIVE AND BORING!! Oh yeah and WAAAAAY too conservative. The only other part of our team that was CONSISTENTLY effective during those years was......Morten Andersen. Those 4 basically made all offenses one-dimensional which made it easy pickings for the secondary. They deserve to be number one without question.

blacksaint 07-09-2007 05:09 AM

I would like (for a minute), for the Nation of the Black & Gold to just imagine; close your eyes and imagine, this offense with the Dome Patrol defense. We're talking about Brees, McAllister, Bush, Colston, and that extremely underrated O-line paired with Jackson, Mills, Swilling, Johnson, Warren, Wilks, Geathers, and the rest of that DOMINATING defense. Man, all I can see or say is, SUPERBOWL, SUPERBOWL, SUPERBOWL. Oh yes, one more word comes to mind. DYNASTY!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:27 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com