Punt Return Options

ScottF · 08-13-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The idea behind returns are field position. If Reggie is our best option you use him. Worrying about injury on a kick return is ridiculous. Injury on special team making a tackle is something you worry about but not returning a kick. What's the difference in kick returning and running through the middle of the line?

There are 2 differences. First, when running through the line you are not looking up, watching a punt with a 3 second hang time.

Second, you are not being tackled by someone who has a full head of steam because they have been sprinting for 40 yards

hagan714 · 08-13-2007, 11:02 AM

200 lbs hurling down the field trying to beat a block usually leads to low hits at the knees.

SAINTSS74 · 08-13-2007, 04:43 PM

why not pitmen returning kicks? thet should try him.he reminds me allot of regie when he runs.

cadilacin · 08-13-2007, 04:55 PM

I don't think reggie is a full time PR or KR. He didn't do that well when he was back there last year. Yeah...he broke the one against TB. And had a spectacular 7 yd gain against GB. But overall it wasn't his thang. Reggie likes to go for the jugular every time he touches it. Thats not always needed back there. We need somebody who is gon b-line through the opeing and gain positive yards almost everytime. Somebody willing and able to get hit hard everytime (not reggie). And who has only KR and/or PR responsibilities. If Payton wants to throw reggie back there every now and then to try and break one...fine. But lets not get him KILLED 20 times just to try and break One. And most of the time, the PR's that are ran back for touchdowns don't required the agility of a Reggie Bush...It's usually a straight line up the middle and then a dash down the sideline. I think Pittman and/or Lance would be a great fit.

But...who am I... Thats Sean's Decision.

blacksaint · 08-13-2007, 09:42 PM

BEERMAN, BEERMAN, BEERMAN!!!!!!!!!!

Budsdrinker · 08-14-2007, 01:39 PM

Everyone makes valid points. But all I'm saying is how many games did the Bears win last year because of Hester returning kicks for TD's. Cards game, 2 TD's in Rams game, 1 in Vikings game plus a couple of returns over 25 yds each in Bucs OT win. Without Hester's returns last year NFC Championship game could have been in the Dome. Field position is what opens up Payton's offense.

JOESAM2002 · 08-14-2007, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Everyone makes valid points. But all I'm saying is how many games did the Bears win last year because of Hester returning kicks for TD's. Cards game, 2 TD's in Rams game, 1 in Vikings game plus a couple of returns over 25 yds each in Bucs OT win. Without Hester's returns last year NFC Championship game could have been in the Dome. Field position is what opens up Payton's offense.

So very true but he wasn't an important part of their offense either. Reggie is far to important to our offense to even consider him getting hurt on treturns in my opinion.

DeadmaN · 08-14-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

So very true but he wasn't an important part of their offense either. Reggie is far to important to our offense to even consider him getting hurt on treturns in my opinion.

agreed
if they put Reggie in as the return guy all they are doing is putting him at risk
I mean come on this is not Madden where you have a reset button this is real life and imagine if he were to get injured…
(Oh man I don’t even want to think about that)
that would be worse then us having a less productive return guy any day of the week
put anyone but him in to do that job

08-13-2007, 09:42 AM	#11
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Punt Return Options Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The idea behind returns are field position. If Reggie is our best option you use him. Worrying about injury on a kick return is ridiculous. Injury on special team making a tackle is something you worry about but not returning a kick. What's the difference in kick returning and running through the middle of the line? There are 2 differences. First, when running through the line you are not looking up, watching a punt with a 3 second hang time. Second, you are not being tackled by someone who has a full head of steam because they have been sprinting for 40 yards

08-13-2007, 11:02 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Punt Return Options 200 lbs hurling down the field trying to beat a block usually leads to low hits at the knees.

08-13-2007, 04:43 PM	#13
SAINTSS74 Registered Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pensacola fl Posts: 36	Re: Punt Return Options why not pitmen returning kicks? thet should try him.he reminds me allot of regie when he runs.

08-13-2007, 04:55 PM	#14
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Punt Return Options I don't think reggie is a full time PR or KR. He didn't do that well when he was back there last year. Yeah...he broke the one against TB. And had a spectacular 7 yd gain against GB. But overall it wasn't his thang. Reggie likes to go for the jugular every time he touches it. Thats not always needed back there. We need somebody who is gon b-line through the opeing and gain positive yards almost everytime. Somebody willing and able to get hit hard everytime (not reggie). And who has only KR and/or PR responsibilities. If Payton wants to throw reggie back there every now and then to try and break one...fine. But lets not get him KILLED 20 times just to try and break One. And most of the time, the PR's that are ran back for touchdowns don't required the agility of a Reggie Bush...It's usually a straight line up the middle and then a dash down the sideline. I think Pittman and/or Lance would be a great fit. But...who am I... Thats Sean's Decision.
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08-14-2007, 01:39 PM	#16
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Punt Return Options Everyone makes valid points. But all I'm saying is how many games did the Bears win last year because of Hester returning kicks for TD's. Cards game, 2 TD's in Rams game, 1 in Vikings game plus a couple of returns over 25 yds each in Bucs OT win. Without Hester's returns last year NFC Championship game could have been in the Dome. Field position is what opens up Payton's offense.

08-14-2007, 03:41 PM	#17
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Punt Return Options Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Everyone makes valid points. But all I'm saying is how many games did the Bears win last year because of Hester returning kicks for TD's. Cards game, 2 TD's in Rams game, 1 in Vikings game plus a couple of returns over 25 yds each in Bucs OT win. Without Hester's returns last year NFC Championship game could have been in the Dome. Field position is what opens up Payton's offense. So very true but he wasn't an important part of their offense either. Reggie is far to important to our offense to even consider him getting hurt on treturns in my opinion.

08-14-2007, 06:05 PM	#18
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: Punt Return Options Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 So very true but he wasn't an important part of their offense either. Reggie is far to important to our offense to even consider him getting hurt on treturns in my opinion. agreed if they put Reggie in as the return guy all they are doing is putting him at risk I mean come on this is not Madden where you have a reset button this is real life and imagine if he were to get injured… (Oh man I don’t even want to think about that) that would be worse then us having a less productive return guy any day of the week put anyone but him in to do that job