BlackandBlue

has predicted that the Saints will end up 4th in the NFC South. Not the NFL, not the NFC, but the NFC South. I have cancelled my subscription. That is all.

saint5221

The highest I\'ve seen any national publication rate theSaints is second in the NFC South. Most putting us at 3rd or 4th. Hard to figure from where i\'m sitting, are we that smart or just that dumb in here? R E S P E C T ,guess there won\'t be any for N.O. till we win in Dec. All\'s well though, the team does seem to play better with a chip on its shoulder and I\'m sure the coaches will use the lack of respect as a motivating tool all season long.

tweeky

If I had to bet my house, Id pick

1st Tampax
2nd New Orleans
3rd Atlanta
4th Carolina

We made more improvements than Atlanta did and we were basically even last year.
We were 2 plays from sweeping them.

I hate pickin TB 1st, but they are the best team in the NFL.
Before the alignment they were my 2nd favorite team.
Now I hope an out of control city bus wipes them all out JK

BillyCarpenter1

Well, lets see.......


QB- Coming off of shoulder surgery. Veiwed as a little on the stupid side and not a leader(even by some Saints fans)

MLB- Ruff is considered a situational backer who couldn\'t cover a peice of bologna with 2 slices of bread,

OLB- Rodgers is consiedered average at best.

CB- Ambrose and Carter are considered over the hill, with their best days behind them.

DT- Rookie on one side and an uproven player that has done nothing in the NFL on the other side.

D-coordinator- who is the worst in the league.

Worst team down the stretch.

I don\'t know why they picked the Saints last.


[Edited on 22/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

tweeky

Did you copy that straight off of the NOLA whiner forum?

ATL: QB who is one-dimensional, who faded miserably down the stretch when TB showed everybody how to defend him
DL: Undersized overachievers who can\'t stop the run
OL: A Sieve.
WR: Sloww-asss 3rd stringers, brought in a 2nd stringer w/ 1 good year to be wr savior
RB: Tiny undersized midget who\'s basically a 3rd down back, slow full back type waiting his turn
FB: Lost one of the best in the game
CB: One of the fewe teams as bad as the Saints
DC: Surprised everybody with the 3-4, who everybody figured out late in the season, just like the AFC east did.


Carolina:
QB: All four are 2nd stringers at best. Couldn\'t knock over a bowlin pin with best pass.
RB: Aging fragile shadow of former self, injured bust as back-up
WR: See RB, and nobody else. Not one could be a 3rd stringer on our team
OL: Below average at best. Probably worse.
TE: Who?
Defense: Lost best DC in league to Jax. Will easily be exploited this year.
LB: Can\'t name one
CB: Can\'t name one
ST: Good punter... WOW! Thats scary!!! Who\'s their kicker again?

TB: Solid in every aspect, but aging, bickering, and SB hangover may cost team 6 losses or more
QB: Only played 16 games one year in his life!
RB: Prison and bust
FB: FumbleBoy
WR: SLOW and ATTITUDE
TE: Who?
Kicker: Gay foreigner!

See, I can play the pessimist role too!

Saints:
One of the best offenses in the game, and will be as good or better with or without Brooks.
OL: Deepest in the league, top 3 at worst
RB: All pro, best in NFC
TE: Solid additions
WR: Top 3 unit in NFL
Special teams: Hands down best in all NFL, probably best NFL has seen in last 10 years
Defense: Upgraded EVERY position that needed it from last year.
CB: Two proven vets
Safety\'s: Could be top tandem in NFC
DL: Young and fast
LB: Young and fast, every position improved from last year, with either better talent or another year of development.

Yea, I see why they picked us 4th, because they are Morons!!!!

Whether we agree or disagree; its all for Him.

BillyCarpenter1

Tweeky,

I\'m just telling you how a lot of people see the Saints. Whether we want to admit it or not, there are a lot of questions on the defensive side of the ball. Tampa and Atlanta made the playoffs last year. We didin\'t. Carolina shouldn\'t be ranked ahead of us though.



I think my feelings on the Saints this year are known. I don\'t care what anyone says, the defensive side of the ball is much eaiser to fix than the offensive side. We\'ll be just fine.

And that comment about Brooks-- if you think it\'s that easy to lead this offense then any old QB should do, because Bouman hasn\'t proved a damn thing...

[Edited on 22/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

FWtex

IF, IF, IF everything goes right for the saints it will be a WAR to stay with ATL and TAMPA. Its going to take at least a 12-4 season to stay with ATL and TAMPA. Vick may be one dimensional but I don\'t think he laid on his tail all season and he has the LEAGUE playing on his side. Saints can\'t afford to play down to the competition this year.

[Edited on 22/7/2003 by FWtex]

WhoDat

I think it\'s F*cking great!!!! When was the last time that the schmucks at football digest (yes B&B, I am also cancelling my subscription) were ever right? They picked Tampa and NE to be the SB contenders this year with Tampa winning it all again. NE? Really? Over Miami, or Oakland? The Jets? Buffalo? KC?

But you know what, I like it when the Aints get no respect, b/c A) they don\'t deserve any until they prove they are a good team on the field, not just on paper, and B) b/c they always play better when they\'re underdogs. I like that we\'re being counted out. When was the last time the team that all of the experts predicted would win the Sb actually won the SB?

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

SCSaintsFan

WHO cares what the experts say? The Saints actually play better as underdogs. Last year, there were several national personalities that actually started picking us to win. We failed. Until we win we won\'t have respect. The coaches have to perform just as the players have to.

As far as coaches go, I think Haslett, don\'t know. He\'s still learning I think. That\'s a good thing, but if he can\'t figure out how to survive December, God help us. McCarthy is pretty good. Venturi(sp?) I think he\'s a GOOD coach with average talent. By that, I mean he gets the average players to play at or above their potential. When he has talent, he seems to not be able to adjust to having extra abilitlies. Perhaps he makes things too complicated. Perhaps he takes more risks. I don\'t know. But, it seems to me the defense even more than the Offense, played to the level of the competition last year. If Defensively, the Saints can rank in the top 1/2 and the offense is level with the first 13 or so games, we will be a playoff team.

As Al Davis says...\"Just Win Baby\".

Kwestions, Kwalmes, Kweries, Kommments...Kall!

BlackandBlue

Normally, I\'d scorch your ass for the above statement, but I\'m on my way to happy hour. I\'m sure WhoDat, tweeky, or a few others will handle it for me. If not, I will do it when I get home.