coastalkid

My response to this thread has nothing to do with being a voice of reason or even trying to be. It\'s just what is right. This thread, although news, has absolutely NOTHING to do with football which, correct me if I am wrong, is why we are all tuned into this site. I am a DIE HARD SAINTS FAN 100% all of the time through thick and thin for over 25 years and that will NEVER change. What does bother me is low class or no class actions by some of our fans. This isn\'t needed nor does it help anything. Will this effect Sapps performance on the field? I think not. Why? Because this didn\'t just come about now. He has been doing this type of thing for years. He isn\'t effected by his conscience. So this will NOT help our beloved Saints team. It only speaks volumes about Saints Fans! Show some class.
We too have had our share of personal distractions...remember why Roaf was let go? Remember the \"rumors\" of the Willie Roaf or Joe Horn baby thing??? That too was totally unnecessary. It\'s not about being a voice of reason it\'s about class. If you can go ahead and throw the first and all of the stones. If you are qualified to do I tip my hat to you.

BillyCarpenter1

coastalkid,

The one I see thowing the most stones is you, by calling people low class. Exactly who are you calling low class?


Your opinions are just that, opinions. Truth is you don\'t know how this will affect Sapp on the field. Personal problems are a part of life and they are not off limit. You can talk about a man\'s problems off the field and not be low class. You have your right to feel however you want but don\'t push them on me.........

[Edited on 23/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

coastalkid

BC, First of all I apologize if you took my \"no Class\" comments personally. I was NOT calling you low class. I do believe this type of thread does not have much merit in this forum (my opinion). I\'m not throwing any stones. I\'m not perfect myself therefor would not throw any. I will no longer comment on this thread.

BillyCarpenter1

You owe me no apology. Your stance is admirable. I just wasn\'t sure who you were talking about when you said \"some of our low class posters.\" The only thing that is relevant about Sapp\'s infidelity was if it was going to affect his play on the field , which is entirely possible, considering this has brought a many a man down.

To question a mans character, because he made a mistake, is not right. In my opinion.



[Edited on 23/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

SaintNik

BucNup and coastalkid have stoned me with the \"Lame Thread, Sorry Post, Low Class, Relevance to football, No Class\" attacks on MY character and judgement to \"spread this trash that is not considered news\". Thanks for the half hearted pro bono defense BillyC but I\'ll be OK. I\'ll dust myself off here and clear it up for them.

NEWS
Facts of my original post to this thread was found when viewing \"The Official Tampa Bay Buccaneers Bulletin Board by way of NFL.Com\". Starter member \"Buc-ger\", veteran of 967 posts, began thread about Sapp divorce, which at the time had over 1100 views and 40 reply posts. The St. Petersburg Times wrote in depth article on subject and ABC aired the info as well. Like it or not, agree with it or not, once media outlets run a story on something it is deemed to be NEWS. It\'s not like I went down to the local Florida courthouse and unearthed some PRIVATE document.

CONTEXT OF POST/REVELANCE TO FOOTBALL/LEADERSHIP
It is the actions of the subject, not me, that show low class and no class. Not for having children out of wedlock or for making a single mistake, but for repeatedly doing so without regard to all parties affected by the actions of an incorrigible person. Certainly the children of these circumstances suffer the most regardless of monetary compensation. The MESSAGE was that this man has character flaws that have now been exposed to his teammates that they may not have previously known about and some of them may now find his leadership qualities to be questionable. Afterall, if you lie to, cheat on, desert, letdown, all of the people you are supposed to LOVE and who love you, why would others follow the voice of this type LEADER?

If you don\'t think character has anything to do with the game of football you probably never played the game at any level. It is a team sport in which a few members of the team by way of example on AND off the field are looked up to by their teammates as LEADERS. Character becomes increasingly more important for players on the professional level. Players entering the nfl draft out of college each year, as well as in free agency, are examined in every allowable way, rated and graded by talent and past acheivements, and JUDGED BY THEIR CHARACTER. Many individuals are penalized each year sometimes millions of dollars not for what they can or can\'t do on the field, but because of past actions off the field, and because of what is perceived to be character issues, real or not. Mr. Sapp himself was originally drafted lower than what his on the field talent suggested. Understandably so!

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