Saints/Dolphins thoughts

andersen · 08-31-2007, 08:37 AM

Don't worry about Mare. He will make 70% and put that many in the EZ on KO's

SapperSaint · 08-31-2007, 08:38 AM

I still really don't know why we cut him.

Saintsfan4ever · 08-31-2007, 08:44 AM

if you look at Stecker, Pierre, and Pittman ,.... Pittman is the weakest link, and he should go first when we cut RB`s

SapperSaint · 08-31-2007, 08:45 AM

Field goals should be more important than kick offs. Points are points. If the guy is missing 35 yarders in the dome, something is wrong.

What was Carney's percentage? Anyone know?

mjf150 · 08-31-2007, 08:47 AM

I really did not agree with cutting him, but they did it to save a roster spot. Carney could not handle both field goals and kick-off duties, so the Saints had to use a roster spot on an extra kicker solely for kick-offs. However, I do not think that Mare is better than Carney, as evidenced by their stats from last year. Mare was 26/36 (80.9%) and 10/18 from 40+. Carney was 23/25 (92%) and 6/7 from 40+ yards.

SapperSaint · 08-31-2007, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever

if you look at Stecker, Pierre, and Pittman ,.... Pittman is the weakest link, and he should go first when we cut RB`s

Agreed. Pittman should go before Stecker.

When a contract is signed on a rookie, how much money will the team lose?

SapperSaint · 08-31-2007, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by mjf150

I really did not agree with cutting him, but they did it to save a roster spot. Carney could not handle both field goals and kick-off duties, so the Saints had to use a roster spot on an extra kicker solely for kick-offs. However, I do not think that Mare is better than Carney, as evidenced by their stats from last year. Mare was 26/36 and 10/18 from 40+. Carney was 23/25 and 6/7 from 40+ yards.

Dumb reason in my book.

I hope it doesn't cost us in the long run.

saintsfan1976 · 08-31-2007, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

What was Carney's percentage? Anyone know?

Last year:
Carney
FG's 23 of 25 Xpts 46 of 47
Mare
FG's 26 of 36 Xpts 22 of 22

SapperSaint · 08-31-2007, 08:55 AM

Carney points missed: 7

Mare points missed: 30

Sorry guys but that is a huge difference and not worth an extra spot on the roster.

WhoDat205 · 08-31-2007, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

When's the last time we shut someone out??

Regardless of preseason and/or no 1st stringers!

That what I'm sayin'. I looked at the play by play on espn.com (ESPN.com - NFL - Play-By-Play) and a few names kept popping up. Brian Simmons, Chris Reis, Dhani Jones, Kaesviharn and Fred Thomas all seemed to have big games. Of those 5, Reis and Thomas are playing for a job, with or without the Saints. I think we cut Reis b/c we are pretty deep at safety and I don't see where you can keep more than 4 on the team, but I bet someone picks him up off waivers. Keep Fred around as a nickle/dime guy.

08-31-2007, 08:37 AM	#11
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Don't worry about Mare. He will make 70% and put that many in the EZ on KO's

08-31-2007, 08:38 AM	#12
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts I still really don't know why we cut him.

08-31-2007, 08:44 AM	#13
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts if you look at Stecker, Pierre, and Pittman ,.... Pittman is the weakest link, and he should go first when we cut RB`s

08-31-2007, 08:45 AM	#14
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Field goals should be more important than kick offs. Points are points. If the guy is missing 35 yarders in the dome, something is wrong. What was Carney's percentage? Anyone know?

08-31-2007, 08:47 AM	#15
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts I really did not agree with cutting him, but they did it to save a roster spot. Carney could not handle both field goals and kick-off duties, so the Saints had to use a roster spot on an extra kicker solely for kick-offs. However, I do not think that Mare is better than Carney, as evidenced by their stats from last year. Mare was 26/36 (80.9%) and 10/18 from 40+. Carney was 23/25 (92%) and 6/7 from 40+ yards.
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08-31-2007, 08:47 AM	#16
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever if you look at Stecker, Pierre, and Pittman ,.... Pittman is the weakest link, and he should go first when we cut RB`s Agreed. Pittman should go before Stecker. When a contract is signed on a rookie, how much money will the team lose?

08-31-2007, 08:49 AM	#17
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Originally Posted by mjf150 I really did not agree with cutting him, but they did it to save a roster spot. Carney could not handle both field goals and kick-off duties, so the Saints had to use a roster spot on an extra kicker solely for kick-offs. However, I do not think that Mare is better than Carney, as evidenced by their stats from last year. Mare was 26/36 and 10/18 from 40+. Carney was 23/25 and 6/7 from 40+ yards. Dumb reason in my book. I hope it doesn't cost us in the long run.

08-31-2007, 08:51 AM	#18
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Originally Posted by SapperSaint What was Carney's percentage? Anyone know? Last year: Carney FG's 23 of 25 Xpts 46 of 47 Mare FG's 26 of 36 Xpts 22 of 22

08-31-2007, 08:55 AM	#19
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Carney points missed: 7 Mare points missed: 30 Sorry guys but that is a huge difference and not worth an extra spot on the roster.

08-31-2007, 09:17 AM	#20
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints/Dolphins thoughts Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie When's the last time we shut someone out?? Regardless of preseason and/or no 1st stringers! That what I'm sayin'. I looked at the play by play on espn.com (ESPN.com - NFL - Play-By-Play) and a few names kept popping up. Brian Simmons, Chris Reis, Dhani Jones, Kaesviharn and Fred Thomas all seemed to have big games. Of those 5, Reis and Thomas are playing for a job, with or without the Saints. I think we cut Reis b/c we are pretty deep at safety and I don't see where you can keep more than 4 on the team, but I bet someone picks him up off waivers. Keep Fred around as a nickle/dime guy.
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