final take on saints/colts game.........

ssmitty · 09-02-2007, 10:06 AM

that is where we disagree......
i believe manning will shred our defense but if whatever
scheme payton and the defense has in place works,
then we take it to the next level.....
in a shootout, i'll have to go with manning.......
he's done it against the best defenses, we have not....
brees somehow loses his cool and gets rattled
against the better defenses, manning just keeps coming,
and although it may not be all brees' fault, he has to find
a way to step up, ( he is the leader)
granted we are not talking about the best defenses here,
which favors manning more than brees imo......
but, i am looking for a step up.........
this is the way to the s.b..............
and we need to find a way........

NarwhalHunter · 09-02-2007, 02:24 PM

Smitty, you sure you're watching the same QBs I am? Manning has proven time and again he is a choke artist; just watch the way the Patriots have manhandled him 4 out of the last 5 playoff games they played them (the last one he only squeaked out of because the Pats D finally ran out of gas). He doesn't rise to the occasion in big games and he gets rattled pretty easily. Brees has defied expectations at every turn and has made the entire team better because of him. I don't think I've ever seen him get flustered. Manning might be able to read coverages better but I'd put my money on Brees being the better leader any day of the week.

Our offense has the ability to totally persecute their defense from the starting gun, and our D has gotten better daily. Once the secondary gels there won't be any stopping them. The way to beat Manning is to blitz him and get him doing some Happy Feet dance moves. The Steelers and Pats exploited this and blew them up doing so. The Bears didn't, and that's a huge reason they lost in the Superbowl. Forget complicated coverage schemes, Manning can eat those up all day. Just let Smith and Grant pin their ears back and smack him in the nose a couple times and you'll start seeing him lose his cool and the passes wobbling out. I think it won't be as high scoring as some do, I count on the Saints playing good old smashmouth football, with lots of Deuce and Thomas up the gut to control the clock and wear out an already ragged defense. 24-10 Saints, but not nearly as close as the score makes it seem.

LongTimeFan · 09-02-2007, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by ssmitty

that is where we disagree......
i believe manning will shred our defense but if whatever
scheme Payton and the defense has in place works,
then we take it to the next level.....
in a shootout, I'll have to go with manning.......
he's done it against the best defenses, we have not....
brees somehow loses his cool and gets rattled
against the better defenses, manning just keeps coming,
and although it may not be all brees' fault, he has to find
a way to step up, ( he is the leader)
granted we are not talking about the best defenses here,
which favors manning more than brees IMO......
but, i am looking for a step up.........
this is the way to the s.b..............
and we need to find a way........

Brees IMO doesn't "lose his cool or gets rattled" when playing against better defenses, it was our defensive line that broke down last season going against better defenses...Bears, Ravens.
Brees had more yardage last season compared to Manning.
The Colts defense were ranked dead last against the run last year and I see no reason to believe they'll be improved in that area, the Saints will run the ball down the Colts throats keeping Manning off of the field some...

09-02-2007, 10:06 AM	#1
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: final take on saints/colts game......... that is where we disagree...... i believe manning will shred our defense but if whatever scheme payton and the defense has in place works, then we take it to the next level..... in a shootout, i'll have to go with manning....... he's done it against the best defenses, we have not.... brees somehow loses his cool and gets rattled against the better defenses, manning just keeps coming, and although it may not be all brees' fault, he has to find a way to step up, ( he is the leader) granted we are not talking about the best defenses here, which favors manning more than brees imo...... but, i am looking for a step up......... this is the way to the s.b.............. and we need to find a way........
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09-02-2007, 02:24 PM	#2
NarwhalHunter 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hattiesburger with Cheese Posts: 146 Blog Entries: 1	Re: final take on saints/colts game......... Smitty, you sure you're watching the same QBs I am? Manning has proven time and again he is a choke artist; just watch the way the Patriots have manhandled him 4 out of the last 5 playoff games they played them (the last one he only squeaked out of because the Pats D finally ran out of gas). He doesn't rise to the occasion in big games and he gets rattled pretty easily. Brees has defied expectations at every turn and has made the entire team better because of him. I don't think I've ever seen him get flustered. Manning might be able to read coverages better but I'd put my money on Brees being the better leader any day of the week. Our offense has the ability to totally persecute their defense from the starting gun, and our D has gotten better daily. Once the secondary gels there won't be any stopping them. The way to beat Manning is to blitz him and get him doing some Happy Feet dance moves. The Steelers and Pats exploited this and blew them up doing so. The Bears didn't, and that's a huge reason they lost in the Superbowl. Forget complicated coverage schemes, Manning can eat those up all day. Just let Smith and Grant pin their ears back and smack him in the nose a couple times and you'll start seeing him lose his cool and the passes wobbling out. I think it won't be as high scoring as some do, I count on the Saints playing good old smashmouth football, with lots of Deuce and Thomas up the gut to control the clock and wear out an already ragged defense. 24-10 Saints, but not nearly as close as the score makes it seem.

09-02-2007, 02:48 PM	#3
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: final take on saints/colts game......... Originally Posted by ssmitty that is where we disagree...... i believe manning will shred our defense but if whatever scheme Payton and the defense has in place works, then we take it to the next level..... in a shootout, I'll have to go with manning....... he's done it against the best defenses, we have not.... brees somehow loses his cool and gets rattled against the better defenses, manning just keeps coming, and although it may not be all brees' fault, he has to find a way to step up, ( he is the leader) granted we are not talking about the best defenses here, which favors manning more than brees IMO...... but, i am looking for a step up......... this is the way to the s.b.............. and we need to find a way........ Brees IMO doesn't "lose his cool or gets rattled" when playing against better defenses, it was our defensive line that broke down last season going against better defenses...Bears, Ravens. Brees had more yardage last season compared to Manning. The Colts defense were ranked dead last against the run last year and I see no reason to believe they'll be improved in that area, the Saints will run the ball down the Colts throats keeping Manning off of the field some...