Can our defense improve?

FireVenturi · 09-10-2007, 09:20 PM

CAN OUR DEFENSE IMPROVE?

Yes......... we are playin' Tampa this week!!

WhoDat205 · 09-10-2007, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by cadilacin

Our linebackers or NOT VERY GOOD. Fujuita is OK, but Shanle and Simoneau are not physical and they are very slow. It's not rocket science, we can't stop the run because we don't have good LB play.

Yes, you are correct, sir.

Originally Posted by cadilacin

I have no confidence in our ability to stop anybody.

I'm always on suprised when we "make a play".

Sounds familiar, go on...

Originally Posted by cadilacin

The bend but don't break....but break anyway style is getting old

I heard it called the break but don't bend D the other day.

Originally Posted by cadilacin

Our defensive team speed is SLOW.

Gary Gibbs plays waay to much man to man for the personnell we have.

So you're saying that good cover corners and LB's with the speed to cover fast TE's like Dallas Clark are what you need to play a pressure D with a lot of Bump and Run man?

Originally Posted by cadilacin

We need a defensive LEADER! Trotter woulda been nice.

He's old and gets injured a bunch, though. Why would we sign a guy with great leadership ability who has been so close to winning it all only to fall short that has gas in the tank and now a huge chip on his shoulder?

Originally Posted by cadilacin

But i'm glad tha Harper is back...He can make plays!

The only "real" player outside of the D-line, IMO. (okay, maybe MM)

Originally Posted by cadilacin

I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE DEFENSE OF THE DEFENSIVE COACHING STAFF.

but i'ma watch and cheer like there is no tommorrow.

Caddy nailed it. The LBs suck. They overachieved last year (and that's not saying much). The only starting caliber LB they we have is Fuji and he is not making any trips to Hawai'i any time soon.

I try to not question the coach and FO's moves much, because I know it's a tough, thankless job, but I've had a few beers so...the Meachem pick...really? He may turn out to be the next Marvin Harrison, but you've got a year left in Horn and two quality guys in Henderson and Colston. Seriously guys...why not Posluzny, Houston or even Branch?

Turbo Saint · 09-10-2007, 11:49 PM

i dunno bout the only REAL player...harper is definitely a real player, but KK is DAAAAAMN good...we need to put him at corner or something. he's a beast.

saintsrule · 09-11-2007, 12:10 AM

I was just the first game.

darstep · 09-11-2007, 08:52 AM

I surely hope so. I think that the corners need to press more and get help over the top. Disrupt receiver's timing off the ball and make the QB have to hold longer than planned and throw through unfamiliar lanes. Perhaps that will give our push one extra second to force bad decisions. We can't just let the O dictate...we have to cause some things to happen. Our best defense is to give Duece 20 carries a game (4.3 per) and keep the defense off the field and fresh.

andersen · 09-11-2007, 10:28 AM

Bucs 13 max. But's that not saying much. We need 14 to win (maybe a RB punt return again)

Cruize · 09-11-2007, 12:03 PM

The talent outside of Grant, Smith, Mckenzie, Fujita, and maybe Harper, just isn't good. Being weak up the middle at DT and MLB is something that is hard to overcome. The front office wasn't lucky or good in their offseason defensive moves. When the Saints offense doesn't hit on all cylinders, they're not going to win. Especially against the better teams.

09-10-2007, 09:20 PM	#21
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09-10-2007, 09:53 PM	#22
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Can our defense improve? Originally Posted by cadilacin Our linebackers or NOT VERY GOOD. Fujuita is OK, but Shanle and Simoneau are not physical and they are very slow. It's not rocket science, we can't stop the run because we don't have good LB play. Yes, you are correct, sir. Originally Posted by cadilacin I have no confidence in our ability to stop anybody. I'm always on suprised when we "make a play". Sounds familiar, go on... Originally Posted by cadilacin The bend but don't break....but break anyway style is getting old I heard it called the break but don't bend D the other day. Originally Posted by cadilacin Our defensive team speed is SLOW. Gary Gibbs plays waay to much man to man for the personnell we have. So you're saying that good cover corners and LB's with the speed to cover fast TE's like Dallas Clark are what you need to play a pressure D with a lot of Bump and Run man? Originally Posted by cadilacin We need a defensive LEADER! Trotter woulda been nice. He's old and gets injured a bunch, though. Why would we sign a guy with great leadership ability who has been so close to winning it all only to fall short that has gas in the tank and now a huge chip on his shoulder? Originally Posted by cadilacin But i'm glad tha Harper is back...He can make plays! The only "real" player outside of the D-line, IMO. (okay, maybe MM) Originally Posted by cadilacin I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE DEFENSE OF THE DEFENSIVE COACHING STAFF. but i'ma watch and cheer like there is no tommorrow. Caddy nailed it. The LBs suck. They overachieved last year (and that's not saying much). The only starting caliber LB they we have is Fuji and he is not making any trips to Hawai'i any time soon. I try to not question the coach and FO's moves much, because I know it's a tough, thankless job, but I've had a few beers so...the Meachem pick...really? He may turn out to be the next Marvin Harrison, but you've got a year left in Horn and two quality guys in Henderson and Colston. Seriously guys...why not Posluzny, Houston or even Branch?
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09-10-2007, 11:49 PM	#23
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Can our defense improve? i dunno bout the only REAL player...harper is definitely a real player, but KK is DAAAAAMN good...we need to put him at corner or something. he's a beast.

09-11-2007, 12:10 AM	#24
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09-11-2007, 08:52 AM	#25
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Can our defense improve? I surely hope so. I think that the corners need to press more and get help over the top. Disrupt receiver's timing off the ball and make the QB have to hold longer than planned and throw through unfamiliar lanes. Perhaps that will give our push one extra second to force bad decisions. We can't just let the O dictate...we have to cause some things to happen. Our best defense is to give Duece 20 carries a game (4.3 per) and keep the defense off the field and fresh.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Can our defense improve? The talent outside of Grant, Smith, Mckenzie, Fujita, and maybe Harper, just isn't good. Being weak up the middle at DT and MLB is something that is hard to overcome. The front office wasn't lucky or good in their offseason defensive moves. When the Saints offense doesn't hit on all cylinders, they're not going to win. Especially against the better teams.
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