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Mark Simoneau sucks! If you don't replace him soon, as in the next game, we will not be able to stop anyone. He's GARBAGE as a starter, put Brain Simmons in NOW, PLEASE! Even if he doesn't know all the plays, he can't do no worse than Simoneau, period.

First don't get me wrong on this. I love Reggie but, if you're not going to use the DEUCE, trade him. It just don't make any sense what so ever to have a BULLDOZER like D-MC and keep him on the sideline, I know we need to integrate Bush more in the running game, but when he's running timid like he did Thursday (for whatever reason), and Deuce is getting 4, 5 yards a pop, you stick with Deuce. Payton have to better understand how to use his GRAVEDIGGER Monster Truck(Deuce) and his Cherry Red Ferrari(Reggie).

I'm not to worried about Jason David, he went up against the one QB in this league that knew his every weakness, that QB just happened to be the best in the business. So Coach if you're checking this out, the CB position will be fine, but you can think about trying Kaesviharn opposite Harper and sit Bullocks down for a minute, let him think about his job and do he wants to keep it.

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Blacksaint RETURNS...

Wassup boi

Agreed on all points! I have been putting the Simoneau thang out since camp.

Hopefully Simmons plays on Sun and sparks the D. And hopefully 26 pounds the rock down TB throat.

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Amen blacksaint,
And the OL better be ready for it.

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Trade Duce lol. That would be interesting and I have been wondering if something is in the works for that. I would hate it. But you and I both know right now Bush by himself in the backfield is a crazy idea.
welcome back blacksaint. hope the move went well.

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Agreed.

1. Start Simmons, sit Simoneau.

2. Start Kaesviharn at safety, sit Bullocks. (Note: Kaesviharn was the most productive safety last year. Yes, even more productive than Palumalu whatever.)

3. Jason David will be fine with more veteran help on the defense, a-la Brian Simmons and Kaesviharn (who will both already have great chemistry from the Bengals). Let's not forget, Harper hasn't played a full regular season game in like a YEAR. He'll be making plays soon enough.

4. Sit Clancy, start Hollis. Let Hollis and Brian Young catch their breath every now and then with Clancy filling in. It's apparent that no matter how much more Hollis weighs, he just works better in game situations than Clancy.

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I agree wholeheartedly, especially when it comes to Simmons and Kaesviharn playing.

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will is right...amen man. we gotta get KK out there...he's a huge playmaker. and esp simoneau...he's just worthless.

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The defense was not the problem Thursday, it was the offense. But they will play better from now on. The Colts were not going to lose to anyone that night.

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I hear ya. I know Bellamy is old and slow, but let him make one of his hammer hits on a RB or TE and the D will be set for the rest of the game. Time for Simmons and KK. Bullocks is a good backup and so is Simoneau. they aren't starters and never have shown it.

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And the congregation said: AMEN!!!

I've been beating this same drum for the past month now and it seems I'm not the only one marching to this tune.

Anyone who doubts that Simoneau ain't the one needs to watch the film. Chasing ain't the same as tacklin' and getting run over on your heels after a gain of 5 yards ain't stoppin' squat! You got the upgrades on D. Put Simmons in. Its NOT rocket science guys! GEEZ!!!

On a more positive note: Roman Harper was like horse sh*t on the farm. He was all over the field!

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Duece has to get his carries - a minimum of 15 per game. Everything else works when defenses have to stack the line to stop the run. When Duece get 100 we win...check the stats. The one REAL problem that we had last year was Corners: good cover corners. We didn't address it during the off season. Our biggest Corner/Safety is 6' 1" and that's counting the helmet and the cleats. Even when we cover well we can't stop big receivers...and every team has one - some have two. If we can control the ball on offense (Duece/Karney) everyone else will have a good day, including our defense.

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I agree with pretty much everything that his been said here. This is seriously one of the best threads I've seen on this board in a while.

Sean! Listen to us! Put in Simmons, KK, and Hollis Thomas, and give Deuce the f***ing ball.

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I'll agree on everything except for putting KK in the starting lineup. I think he'll be exposed if we make him a full time starter(he was a part time player/spot starter in Cincy). I'm still behind Bullocks with Harper... now if we start a long losing streak, I might change my tune. This is the first time he'll be under the same DC two years in a row. I expect big things out of him. No one had a good first game... we can't replace them all.

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I hope the reduced pressure on both sides of the ball by TB as opposed to Indy does not lull us into a false sense of security. The good thing about playing Indy in the 1st game is that they had a lot of what I call pressure points. Manning & the rest of the O, the pass rush, their defensive scheme, etc. All these pushed us to our breaking point...which is a good thing. Now we have to adjust accordingly with IMO the insertion of Simmons, KK & running Deuce in a more balanced way. And finally, realizing that playing man D should be avoided as much as possible until we can get the kinks out of our technique or get timely safety help...if possible.

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Dead on point my man! Force a team stop Deuce and the 'Karneyvore' and the game goes wide-the-hell-open!

Or to steal a quote from Gary Busey from the 90's movie, "Soldier": 'My daddy always said, When you want to hammer a nail, don't do anything fancy. Just get a hammer and pound the son of a *****.'

We know Sean loves the pass, but sometimes you need a little meat to go with the gravy.

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Papzy, you sure he was a spot starter? I'm pretty sure he led NFL safeties in interceptions last season. I guess if you're right, he's a hell of a bench player...

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Yea I'm sure of it.

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Hmm, you may be right.

I say put him in the game at the red-zone. Probably his most effective area.

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IMO Deuce will be traded next season, it's not something I'm looking forward to be I think he's a player that the Saints need to help win games but I agree, he's not be used enough, I hope to see him get more carries, I don't think Bush is a back that can carry a team alone so if Deuce is traded next year as I think he will the saints will have to get him some help back there..
My two cents worth..

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Duce runs means Bush runs and vice a versa. end of story
KK is good at run support but like Bullocks he can be exploited in the passing game.

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And what was the KK to Bullocks pick ratio last year? Bullocks sucks. He's almost always out of position and rarely makes any kind of play. Harper and Bellamy is better than Harper and Bullocks. I say put in KK and let Bellamy play the red zone. Bellamy and Simmons in the red zone will produce for sure.

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First off, Leilung, that's a great avatar.

I see where trading Deuce makes sense for the team, he would have a lot of value on the market and you might be able to use him to get a good CB or LB or similar. I just don't think it's that simple. Deuce likes spending time with his family in Lena and he has the car lots in Jackson and several other business ventures going on. There's even rumblings about him running for political office in MS.

Deuce is a smart guy. I think he understands that he can extend his career by playing with Reggie and taking fewer snaps than guys like LJ, not to mention there is a chance to do something great with the Saints. I think he also understands that he has a legacy in the Gulf South.

It would not surprise me if Deuce elected to retire rather than be traded.

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I wholeheartedly agree with the assesement on Bullocks, he has left more than one cornerback out to dry! As I have said time and time again on this board, we need a new defensive coordinator, plain and simple. This one seems to have as bad of blinders on as did Haslett with Brooks. ( Oh no he didn't just go there! ) We cannot run man on d, we have sucked at it for years now and the d-coordinator just can't seem to let it go. His reasoning has made me question his intentions the whole time. His 'let's bring in zone players to play man coverage' has me baffled on so many levels. And as I have said before, if you continue to get beat down the field, at least start blitzing form every conceivable angle! You're getting beat anyway, why not try to get to the QB before he burns you? But staying with man, and leaving our LB's in a maybe we blitz from a vanilla scheme or maybe we leave them in run d to get the hell pounded out of them, ain't going to cut it any longer. And don't think Peyton didn't know he could burn Jason David anytime he wanted to, now he just showed the rest of the NFL how to do it. We better be making some adjustments on both sides of the ball this week or else that feeling of how Haslett started his descent his second year will creep back into the back of my mind.

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Great points. It's not often you think of a player taking his legacy into consideration, or for that matter anything besides the mighty dollar. But Deuce is no ordinary 'run of the mill' cat.

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Even the thought of a Duece trade starts to fuel that upchuck feeling way down deep somewhere. It would be a big mistake. There is nothing that you could get for Duece that would come close to what he brings to our success week in and week out, on and off of the field. I love Reggie...he's exciting, explosive, intriguing, all of that; but he's not ready to carry our load. I've seen Bush get snatched with one hand while the lineman is fighting off a block with the other hand - not so with Duece. I've seen linebackers find excuses to lay on the ground to keep from having to take yet another pounding from Duece late in the 3rd and into the 4th. A Duece trade sounds like money talking - Benzo counting nickels and pennies and ending up with just pennies. I would turn a flip if the Saints "approached" salary cap issues. The Brees deal saved Benny a 1st round QB salary...worked out just fine. No Duece deal, at this point in our struggle, is worth it.

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OK guys, let's sit back and take a very deep breath. Now relax, we're not 0-6 or 0-10, we're 0-1, no one should be having anxiety attacks. When I mentioned Deuce and trade in the same sentence, I didn't mean for you guys to run off with that, I really don't think the Saints will trade the Deuce for the simple reason Bush haven't proved he can be the man yet and until then they feel a lot more comfortable with Deuce in the backfield. Coach has since acknowledge he have to run the Deuce way more than they did against the Colts, and I think the Bucs better button their chin straps up because THE DEUCE IS COMING!

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Good post. The next Jim Brown/ Barry Sanders/ Robert Smith perhaps? Get out before you become the next Earl Campbell?
This is a subject that will haunt this forum and my mind this year. I love the guy. I'd hate to see him go but would prefer retirement over a trade.

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All I am saying is KK may not be the answer you are looking for. He is another signing that did not address a problem as a fix for that position but it did add depth so the bleeding would not be so bad if injury hits again. He is just another temp

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I agree that Duce is smart and I could see him redoing his contract to stay also. Being smart he realizes that Bush has lengthen his football life. If he goes else were he will be the 25 to 30 carries a game back. Can the knee hold up?

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We can all agree that Simoneau has had his chance to shine and started all last year, and is starting this year with the same results.

What isn't taken into account is that neither Simmons, nor Kaesviharn has had an opportunity to even START a game yet this year, much less play an entire game, much less play an entire season. So the argument that they haven't solved any defensive problems isn't completely accurate - they just haven't had an opportunity from ol' pass-happy.

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* and it's only game 2 of the regular season.

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How many of you kats out there are CPR certified, because by game 6 we're going to need cha. lol.:D

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i'm complete first aid certified, don't worry lol....

*includes cpr, AED, O2, etc* hopefully someone can get me when i crack.

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no...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Good one, WillieMac.:D

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In Coach Payton I TRUST, just like it sez on my money