It's Very Simple...Deuce

WhoDat205 · 09-17-2007, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Why do we do everything except run Deuce up the gut?

Papa, Deuce got 10 carries in the first half. The Saints didn't score and Tampa went up 21.

You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game.

cadilacin · 09-17-2007, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game.

Thank You WhoDat. I'm tired of all these Katz thinking that the only answer is..."RUN DEUCE". Deuce ran pretty good early, and his fumble started the momentum for Tampa. We do need to run, but more importantly we need better and smarter play from (like HAGAN has been saying) the OL and DL. And we need Sean Payton to call ONE GOOD GAME!

I still think we're fine. One game down in the division aint bad. Not Superbowl contenders yet, because The Might Pats look Awesome...But we can get there...

Papa Voodoo · 09-17-2007, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Papa, Deuce got 10 carries in the first half. The Saints didn't score and Tampa went up 21.

You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game.

That's exactly my point. Deuce is a hammer back. He is supposed to pound opposing defenses and set up play action. With a pounding RB the D gets worn down and huge offensive plays open up from the running game. Running is also easier than throwing and can help a struggling team get in rthythm.

Being down by 3 TDs is not a reason to abandon the run in the second half. You come out pounding and get some points and momentum. Then work from there. It also keeps opposing defenses off the field, even when you are down so they can't score as often. If they can score 3 TDs in the first half and there is the same amount of time in the second half as the first, then we can score three without having to get desparate and pass happy.

We need to run Deuce...the whole game...a lot. Our game plan for Chicago was pathetic and we've been stuck on the same thing ever since.

At the beginning of last year we ran Deuce in our first two games more than 10 times, even when Karney went out and we won. It's not a mystery.

iceshack149 · 09-17-2007, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Papa, Deuce got 10 carries in the first half. The Saints didn't score and Tampa went up 21.

You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game.

Actually, Deuce only ran the ball 10 times (again) and his average yards per run was 4.9 yards. So in theory, give it to him on 1st and 2nd down and you'll have less than a yard to go on 3rd down. This is, by the way, an example not a game plan.

09-17-2007, 08:21 AM	#1
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: It's Very Simple...Deuce Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Why do we do everything except run Deuce up the gut? Papa, Deuce got 10 carries in the first half. The Saints didn't score and Tampa went up 21. You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game.

09-17-2007, 09:23 AM	#2
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: It's Very Simple...Deuce Originally Posted by WhoDat205 You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game. Thank You WhoDat. I'm tired of all these Katz thinking that the only answer is..."RUN DEUCE". Deuce ran pretty good early, and his fumble started the momentum for Tampa. We do need to run, but more importantly we need better and smarter play from (like HAGAN has been saying) the OL and DL. And we need Sean Payton to call ONE GOOD GAME! I still think we're fine. One game down in the division aint bad. Not Superbowl contenders yet, because The Might Pats look Awesome...But we can get there...

09-17-2007, 12:39 PM	#3
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: It's Very Simple...Deuce Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Papa, Deuce got 10 carries in the first half. The Saints didn't score and Tampa went up 21. You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game. That's exactly my point. Deuce is a hammer back. He is supposed to pound opposing defenses and set up play action. With a pounding RB the D gets worn down and huge offensive plays open up from the running game. Running is also easier than throwing and can help a struggling team get in rthythm. Being down by 3 TDs is not a reason to abandon the run in the second half. You come out pounding and get some points and momentum. Then work from there. It also keeps opposing defenses off the field, even when you are down so they can't score as often. If they can score 3 TDs in the first half and there is the same amount of time in the second half as the first, then we can score three without having to get desparate and pass happy. We need to run Deuce...the whole game...a lot. Our game plan for Chicago was pathetic and we've been stuck on the same thing ever since. At the beginning of last year we ran Deuce in our first two games more than 10 times, even when Karney went out and we won. It's not a mystery.

09-17-2007, 03:01 PM	#4
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,430 Blog Entries: 1	Re: It's Very Simple...Deuce Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Papa, Deuce got 10 carries in the first half. The Saints didn't score and Tampa went up 21. You could make the Deuce argument last game, but not in this game. Actually, Deuce only ran the ball 10 times (again) and his average yards per run was 4.9 yards. So in theory, give it to him on 1st and 2nd down and you'll have less than a yard to go on 3rd down. This is, by the way, an example not a game plan.