Blame it on the O-Line Again
 

Say what you want about the Defense costing us games. I don't care. No, they're not good, but they are not the difference this year.

The difference is the O-Line. They have yet to play a good game. Their run blocking is getting worse by the game and their pass blocking absolutely stinks. Brees is getting no time and therefore the WRs don't have time to get open down field. Stinchcomb has been pathetic, but that hasn't stood out because the others have been only a shade better, if any. Even Jamal Brown has regresses from his Pro Bowl season.

Say what you want about any other position on the team, but "it all starts up front" and they suck, suck, suck.

I'm writing this before the end of the game and we may win, but that doesn't change a thing for me. If the O-line doesn't get better, we might as well get used to losing.

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I was thinking the same thing. My high school team can run through this line.

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You've said it all!!

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We can't stop anything and we damn sure can't give Brees enough time to develop anykind of offensive rythmn

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I couldn't agree more. Drew Brees has had absolutely not time to throw the ball. I'm getting so disgusted. You also have to look at the defense though. Everyone who talks about the defense blames the secondary for their troubles. However, I don't think it's the secondary. It's the front seven. Opposing quarterbacks have had all day to pick apart the secondary. How many sacks does the D-Line have this year? I believe that number is ZERO! Now that is what you call pathetic. And how about an interception returned for a touchdown for a nail in the coffin. The offense has given up almost as many points as the defense. What is going on this year? Should I be getting the paper bag and scissors ready?

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i agree 100%

maybe now we know why payton drafted o-linemen

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I am glad everyone FINALLY starting to see what I have seen for years about this damn team. YOU BUILD ON THE LINES. We got by last year but now the weakness has been exposed. Our lines O and D suck.

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and is Jammal Brown is out for any length, god help them. Strief looked ok in relief it appearred.

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I have an idea! Lets draft Robert Meachum. And injured riddled decent college WR who should have stayed in college one more year when we really need defensive player or O-line help. Or lets get rid of Joe Horn the leader of our team because he's on the downside of his career. No No I got it! Lets sign Brian Simmons just to warm the bench for a totally horrible excuse for an NFL linebacker Mark Simoneau. Then lets sign Jason David who has never played Man to Man in his life!!!! We're super bowl bound baby!!! :( I'm totally disgusted right now

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Both lines...equally as bad. 34 total yards rushing. Terrible pass blocking that caused Brees to get rattled even when he did have a few seconds to make his delivery. Still zero sacks on the other side. I hope Duece gets healthy and gets rolling or its going to be a long long long long season.

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We have a core but we need a lot more. Shame the coaches got as involved in all the hype as we did. Years not done. Division is still in reach. Sweep Is need now.

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I completely agree that the O-line is a major problem with this team. Brees doesn't have the time he needs for his receivers to get open and for him to make the plays. Reggie and Deuce don't have the holes they need to run it up the middle. BUT a lot of this is also on other members of the team. Reggie has GOT to stop dropping balls that are thrown right to him and Brees needs to practice on his throwing accuracy. He was all over the place tonight which contributed to the 4 interceptions he threw.

Not to mention the defense. I think we stole the Redskins tackling techniques from last year. Although I do love it when Fujita gets a good hard hit in :D

We've got a week off and there's ALOT we need to work so we need it.

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yes...oline is bad.

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This is just like the Haslett years. First people love Payton, because he wins a playoff game, then things go bad the next year, and then everyone is against him.

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I just don't understand how our O-line which was so good last year, can look so bad this year. I mean they were arguably the best surprise of the Saints last year.
Any thoughts, besides the fact that they suck?

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Strief looked better to me. Move Brown back to right tackle and let Strief play right.

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FWIW...

Last night, I OFTEN TIMES seen Jammal Brown with his hands on his hips, gasping for air in the huddle. He looked like he was tanking.

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This is a swiss cheese based coaching staff. The holes near the meat make the quarterback taste better.

Brees is going to wind up with Deuce on IR before week 8.

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Yeah I totally agree…

everyone’s bashing on drew for the int’s last night and lest week but lets get real he has only one receiver that is making catches consistently (that’s Colston) and an “O” line that can’t seam to make a block.
I’m willing to bet that from a QB’s standpoint that has to put you in an uneasy spot just being on the field let alone passing the ball. Then on top of that he is not being given time in the pocket like he was last season due to the lack of effective blocks.

And now I they are saying Duce has torn ACL (normally career ending) and what really concerns me is that I don’t think Reggie is up to the task of being a success at the starting RB position considering this offensive line can’t block to save there lives, and in no way am I saying he is not good, I’m simply saying that he is no Duce nor is he an up the gut runner without proper blocking.

Personally I would love to see him line up in the slot that would make 2 backs that should be able to make catches coming out of the back field cause lets face it outside of Colston no one else seams to be able to hold on to the ball

Let’s face facts Reggie does not do as well with the ball in his hands until he is in the secondary. I mean, we all saw how explosive he can be once he is there…
So, my question is why not put him in the very position that would get him there (the secondary) right from the start of the play?
Not to mention with his speed and moves I bet he would light the field on fire

Then let Pitman and Thomas work the ball from the back field under the guidance of Duce and Stecker

I bet that they would see a huge improvement

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yea lets not do this...we're a different team and he's a different coach. stay with him...lets not turn at ANY sight of bull****...we have the skills.

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I agree. Nothing I wrote in this thread said anything bad about Payton. Before last season, I wrote elsewhere that I expected a 6&10 or 7&9 season because of lack of talent on the o-line. Somehow last year, they pulled it together and played well.

For good reason, maybe, the coaching staff bought into their '06 performance as a sign of good things to come because I did too. Unfortunately, they have regressed.

Maybe with some rest they can get it back together. That's about all we can hope for now.

There is one thing I'd like Payton to consider changing. Have you noticed how sluggish our guys seem? I can't help but think that maybe they were beaten down physically before the season even started by facing a Mississippi summer in training camp. The Cowboys went through what the players were calling "camp cupcake" - practicing indoors everyday. I hate the cowboys, but they have the look of a fresh team that knows what is going on. Payton might want to re-think this Milsaps thing.

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I think we need a Strief to start campaign.
However, Nesbit looked horrible as well. Haynesworth might as well called him Susan all game. Let Bushrod give it a shot at Guard or RT. Stick Stinchcomb on the bench and put in Bushrod and Strief. Strief is a mauler, imagine him and Brown(if healthy) on the left side of the line. Bushrod cannot be worse than Stinchcomb.

Bottom line is we need netter play out of the O line, and if the current starters can't get it done then it is time to bring in some of the new blood.

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Brown was getting beaten like a dirty rug all night long last night. I hope one of the Titans DLinemen took him into the shower after the game

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despite what the expert say Brown belongs on the right. We need a starting LT. End og story. I have said this last year too. We need on of the young guys to step up or we need to address it in FA or the draft.

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So from last year to this year he just forgot how to play LT? I'm not buying it. He played well, very damn well last year. has he last the drive? At RT he was trying to prove he was good enough to get a chance to play LT. Last year he wanted to prove now that the position was his he deserved it. Now he earned and played great, does he feel he doesn't have anything to prove? Is the drive to be better gone? That is it, he has all the tools and showed last year he could do it. If he can't find the desire, I have a boot to stick up his A## on his way to the bench.