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TheDeuce · 09-25-2007, 02:49 PM

I agree with the whole mantra that the games are won on the lines, but this was one of the best damn offensive lines in the NFL last season. How did they get so bad so fast?

Euphoria · 09-25-2007, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I agree with the whole mantra that the games are won on the lines, but this was one of the best damn offensive lines in the NFL last season. How did they get so bad so fast?

No I can argue the point they were not that good they got by and Brees and company made them look better than they were at times. Match that line against decent defenses last year they were not nor looked good at all. 10-6 is good but not that good and a fluke year, over-acheieved at best. The flaws were there they just looked good stat-wise but the flaws were there. Good O-lines will battle and look good no matter what. They will keep you in the toughest of games... that did not happen last year. The tough games they folded like paper.

People have had an entire off-season looking at how to beat the Saints and now everyone follows the others in game planning against us.

Dan the Man · 09-25-2007, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

No I can argue the point they were not that good they got by and Brees and company made them look better than they were at times. Match that line against decent defenses last year they were not nor looked good at all. 10-6 is good but not that good and a fluke year, over-acheieved at best. The flaws were there they just looked good stat-wise but the flaws were there. Good O-lines will battle and look good no matter what. They will keep you in the toughest of games... that did not happen last year. The tough games they folded like paper.

People have had an entire off-season looking at how to beat the Saints and now everyone follows the others in game planning against us.

Actually you're completely wrong. The O-line was one of the best last year. Just because Brees got sacked a couple times by a good DE or LB doesn't mean they were terrible. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, but you gotta promise not to tell anyone...(Peyton Manning and Tom Brady get sacked sometimes too). To say that they didn't look good last year is ignorant. To say that Brees and everyone else made the O-line look good is ignorant. To say that a 10-6 year was a fluke year is ignorant. We were the second best team in the NFC last year because we earned it. Get a clue before you start comoing on here with all this crap.

Euphoria · 09-25-2007, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dan the Man

Actually you're completely wrong. The O-line was one of the best last year. Just because Brees got sacked a couple times by a good DE or LB doesn't mean they were terrible. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, but you gotta promise not to tell anyone...(Peyton Manning and Tom Brady get sacked sometimes too). To say that they didn't look good last year is ignorant. To say that Brees and everyone else made the O-line look good is ignorant. To say that a 10-6 year was a fluke year is ignorant. We were the second best team in the NFC last year because we earned it. Get a clue before you start comoing on here with all this crap.

IGNORANT??? why don't you prove to me they are good??? PROVE IT I dare you... oh wait 0-3 I win, you lose. have a sandwich.

What is ignorant is people like who live in a fantasy land all the time and fail to see the same problem I have been preaching for years. Manning - Brady, whomever they have lines that win... I could careless they get sacked from time to time but year in and year out where the hell are they??? IN THE PLAYOFFS. Get a clue.

Before you say anything else stupid and ignorant why don't you learn the game of football and then come talk to me.

cadilacin · 09-25-2007, 10:16 PM

Everybody is so touchy...Relax. Ok...the O-line and D-Line suck....OK!

It's funny (sad) to me when fans accuse another fan of being a bandwagoner. It don't matter to me when someone started being a saints fans (the more the merrier). We all have suffered through the pain of being a fan...so to the new guys....Welcome to our misery!!

It makes me (or nobody else) better just because I've been rooting for my home team longer than someone else.

We lose 3 games to start the season and we start calling each other ignorant, and claiming that we are better fans than someone else...thats childish...to me. These are the kinds of things that "Loosers" do. We are not loosers...our club is just playing bad football right now. We still have a chance at the division.

So if it makes you feel better to call folks bandwagoners (which I guess makes you a better fan) ENJOY!

In my opinion it just brings a negative, non-inclusive, argumentative energy to blackandgold.

But like I say...whatever makes you feel better.

Dan the Man · 09-26-2007, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

IGNORANT??? why don't you prove to me they are good??? PROVE IT I dare you... oh wait 0-3 I win, you lose. have a sandwich.

What is ignorant is people like who live in a fantasy land all the time and fail to see the same problem I have been preaching for years. Manning - Brady, whomever they have lines that win... I could careless they get sacked from time to time but year in and year out where the hell are they??? IN THE PLAYOFFS. Get a clue.

Before you say anything else stupid and ignorant why don't you learn the game of football and then come talk to me.

Well if you would be so generous as to go back and read what I wrote, I said that LAST YEAR they were one of the best in the league. It was a response to your comment that last year the O-line was terrible. If you want proof, get it yourself. Go back and watch the games from last year. You're just proving my point that you don't have a clue by responding to comments I didn't make. I do agree (and never disagreed) that they are playing terribly this year.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I do stand by what I said about them being ignorant statements.
And by the way, thanks for the suggestion...the sandwich was delicious.

Euphoria · 09-26-2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dan the Man

Well if you would be so generous as to go back and read what I wrote, I said that LAST YEAR they were one of the best in the league. It was a response to your comment that last year the O-line was terrible. If you want proof, get it yourself. Go back and watch the games from last year. You're just proving my point that you don't have a clue by responding to comments I didn't make. I do agree (and never disagreed) that they are playing terribly this year.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I do stand by what I said about them being ignorant statements.
And by the way, thanks for the suggestion...the sandwich was delicious.

Dude I totally understand you now. You're the type of person who just likes to make BS statements with out really understanding or knowing anything. Blast someones comments or opinions for no reason what so ever nor prove or show facts to make your points. Just running at the mouth with no facts to prove your points... that is an ignorant stance you have taken.

They got lucky and over achieved last year and that has been proven by there play last year in some games and obvious by there play so far this year and an 0-3 record thus far.

Dan the Man · 09-26-2007, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Dude I totally understand you now. You're the type of person who just likes to make BS statements with out really understanding or knowing anything. Blast someones comments or opinions for no reason what so ever nor prove or show facts to make your points. Just running at the mouth with no facts to prove your points... that is an ignorant stance you have taken.

They got lucky and over achieved last year and that has been proven by there play last year in some games and obvious by there play so far this year and an 0-3 record thus far.

Alright, this is the last thing I'll say because you usually prove my point for me anyways, but I can't resist this. You're actually saying that an offensive line in professional football just got lucky for a whole season? What, whenever we played a team they're whole defensive line would just actually fall over an accident? I don't think so dude. And if 0-3 proves that they're terrible this year, then how does 10-6 not prove they were good last year? 10-6, that is my fact to prove my point. Luck is for one game, not 10. 11 if you include playoffs.

Haps Biggest Fan · 09-25-2007, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I agree with the whole mantra that the games are won on the lines, but this was one of the best damn offensive lines in the NFL last season. How did they get so bad so fast?

You've forgotten that the team for whom you cheer are the cursed NO Saints. We are destined for failure. We cannot change our destiny.

Why cannot you be happy with our achievement in 2006, which was granted by God, and be content to return to your/our normal horrible-ness?

Why do you insist on questioning the gods on such things?

Accept that, as a Saints fan, you will dwell amongst the bottom-feeders, and be content with your FATE . . . as I have learned to be content.

09-25-2007, 02:49 PM	#1
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. I agree with the whole mantra that the games are won on the lines, but this was one of the best damn offensive lines in the NFL last season. How did they get so bad so fast?
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09-25-2007, 07:53 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by TheDeuce I agree with the whole mantra that the games are won on the lines, but this was one of the best damn offensive lines in the NFL last season. How did they get so bad so fast? No I can argue the point they were not that good they got by and Brees and company made them look better than they were at times. Match that line against decent defenses last year they were not nor looked good at all. 10-6 is good but not that good and a fluke year, over-acheieved at best. The flaws were there they just looked good stat-wise but the flaws were there. Good O-lines will battle and look good no matter what. They will keep you in the toughest of games... that did not happen last year. The tough games they folded like paper. People have had an entire off-season looking at how to beat the Saints and now everyone follows the others in game planning against us.

09-25-2007, 09:09 PM	#3
Dan the Man Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 87	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by Euphoria No I can argue the point they were not that good they got by and Brees and company made them look better than they were at times. Match that line against decent defenses last year they were not nor looked good at all. 10-6 is good but not that good and a fluke year, over-acheieved at best. The flaws were there they just looked good stat-wise but the flaws were there. Good O-lines will battle and look good no matter what. They will keep you in the toughest of games... that did not happen last year. The tough games they folded like paper. People have had an entire off-season looking at how to beat the Saints and now everyone follows the others in game planning against us. Actually you're completely wrong. The O-line was one of the best last year. Just because Brees got sacked a couple times by a good DE or LB doesn't mean they were terrible. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, but you gotta promise not to tell anyone...(Peyton Manning and Tom Brady get sacked sometimes too). To say that they didn't look good last year is ignorant. To say that Brees and everyone else made the O-line look good is ignorant. To say that a 10-6 year was a fluke year is ignorant. We were the second best team in the NFC last year because we earned it. Get a clue before you start comoing on here with all this crap.

09-25-2007, 09:54 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by Dan the Man Actually you're completely wrong. The O-line was one of the best last year. Just because Brees got sacked a couple times by a good DE or LB doesn't mean they were terrible. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, but you gotta promise not to tell anyone...(Peyton Manning and Tom Brady get sacked sometimes too). To say that they didn't look good last year is ignorant. To say that Brees and everyone else made the O-line look good is ignorant. To say that a 10-6 year was a fluke year is ignorant. We were the second best team in the NFC last year because we earned it. Get a clue before you start comoing on here with all this crap. IGNORANT??? why don't you prove to me they are good??? PROVE IT I dare you... oh wait 0-3 I win, you lose. have a sandwich. What is ignorant is people like who live in a fantasy land all the time and fail to see the same problem I have been preaching for years. Manning - Brady, whomever they have lines that win... I could careless they get sacked from time to time but year in and year out where the hell are they??? IN THE PLAYOFFS. Get a clue. Before you say anything else stupid and ignorant why don't you learn the game of football and then come talk to me.

09-25-2007, 10:16 PM	#5
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Everybody is so touchy...Relax. Ok...the O-line and D-Line suck....OK! It's funny (sad) to me when fans accuse another fan of being a bandwagoner. It don't matter to me when someone started being a saints fans (the more the merrier). We all have suffered through the pain of being a fan...so to the new guys....Welcome to our misery!! It makes me (or nobody else) better just because I've been rooting for my home team longer than someone else. We lose 3 games to start the season and we start calling each other ignorant, and claiming that we are better fans than someone else...thats childish...to me. These are the kinds of things that "Loosers" do. We are not loosers...our club is just playing bad football right now. We still have a chance at the division. So if it makes you feel better to call folks bandwagoners (which I guess makes you a better fan) ENJOY! In my opinion it just brings a negative, non-inclusive, argumentative energy to blackandgold. But like I say...whatever makes you feel better.
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09-26-2007, 09:55 AM	#6
Dan the Man Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 87	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by Euphoria IGNORANT??? why don't you prove to me they are good??? PROVE IT I dare you... oh wait 0-3 I win, you lose. have a sandwich. What is ignorant is people like who live in a fantasy land all the time and fail to see the same problem I have been preaching for years. Manning - Brady, whomever they have lines that win... I could careless they get sacked from time to time but year in and year out where the hell are they??? IN THE PLAYOFFS. Get a clue. Before you say anything else stupid and ignorant why don't you learn the game of football and then come talk to me. Well if you would be so generous as to go back and read what I wrote, I said that LAST YEAR they were one of the best in the league. It was a response to your comment that last year the O-line was terrible. If you want proof, get it yourself. Go back and watch the games from last year. You're just proving my point that you don't have a clue by responding to comments I didn't make. I do agree (and never disagreed) that they are playing terribly this year. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I do stand by what I said about them being ignorant statements. And by the way, thanks for the suggestion...the sandwich was delicious.
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09-26-2007, 11:12 AM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by Dan the Man Well if you would be so generous as to go back and read what I wrote, I said that LAST YEAR they were one of the best in the league. It was a response to your comment that last year the O-line was terrible. If you want proof, get it yourself. Go back and watch the games from last year. You're just proving my point that you don't have a clue by responding to comments I didn't make. I do agree (and never disagreed) that they are playing terribly this year. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I do stand by what I said about them being ignorant statements. And by the way, thanks for the suggestion...the sandwich was delicious. Dude I totally understand you now. You're the type of person who just likes to make BS statements with out really understanding or knowing anything. Blast someones comments or opinions for no reason what so ever nor prove or show facts to make your points. Just running at the mouth with no facts to prove your points... that is an ignorant stance you have taken. They got lucky and over achieved last year and that has been proven by there play last year in some games and obvious by there play so far this year and an 0-3 record thus far.

09-26-2007, 09:21 PM	#8
Dan the Man Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 87	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by Euphoria Dude I totally understand you now. You're the type of person who just likes to make BS statements with out really understanding or knowing anything. Blast someones comments or opinions for no reason what so ever nor prove or show facts to make your points. Just running at the mouth with no facts to prove your points... that is an ignorant stance you have taken. They got lucky and over achieved last year and that has been proven by there play last year in some games and obvious by there play so far this year and an 0-3 record thus far. Alright, this is the last thing I'll say because you usually prove my point for me anyways, but I can't resist this. You're actually saying that an offensive line in professional football just got lucky for a whole season? What, whenever we played a team they're whole defensive line would just actually fall over an accident? I don't think so dude. And if 0-3 proves that they're terrible this year, then how does 10-6 not prove they were good last year? 10-6, that is my fact to prove my point. Luck is for one game, not 10. 11 if you include playoffs.

09-25-2007, 11:20 PM	#9
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Bandwagon: THANK YOU!!! See you soon. Originally Posted by TheDeuce I agree with the whole mantra that the games are won on the lines, but this was one of the best damn offensive lines in the NFL last season. How did they get so bad so fast? You've forgotten that the team for whom you cheer are the cursed NO Saints. We are destined for failure. We cannot change our destiny. Why cannot you be happy with our achievement in 2006, which was granted by God, and be content to return to your/our normal horrible-ness? Why do you insist on questioning the gods on such things? Accept that, as a Saints fan, you will dwell amongst the bottom-feeders, and be content with your FATE . . . as I have learned to be content.