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darstep 09-28-2007 01:26 PM

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Getting blind side stripped by 300 pounders is really not the QB's fault. It's hard to hang on to the ball even when you see those guys coming. Trying to force the ball into tight coverage just to get rid of it is on the QB. Low throws, high throws, weak throws to the sidelines are also on the QB. Brees needs time, throwing lanes, and receivers that will hang on to the ball. Receivers need time to get separation and CATCHABLE passes, hopefully in stride, that will allow them to add some after catch yards. It will only happen when the line gives them 4-6 seconds to get it done. Much tougher to do w/o a running game.

MatthewT 09-29-2007 02:19 AM

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Throw him under a bus right now. Dude Brees has 1 TD and 7 INT. Forget about the lack of help on the o-line, dude has freaking Richard Todd and Heath Shuler type of numbers right now. Hold the QB responsible and hopefully he can turn it around. I know he has had poor blocking, but at times when he has had time to throw the passes, he is still very inaccurate. This season has a 2-14 joke written all over it. At least once the Saints go 1-9 the Tyler Palko experiment will come into play. Nothing like another false sense of hope...

Euphoria 09-29-2007 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 140615)
Throw him under a bus right now. Dude Brees has 1 TD and 7 INT. Forget about the lack of help on the o-line, dude has freaking Richard Todd and Heath Shuler type of numbers right now. Hold the QB responsible and hopefully he can turn it around. I know he has had poor blocking, but at times when he has had time to throw the passes, he is still very inaccurate. This season has a 2-14 joke written all over it. At least once the Saints go 1-9 the Tyler Palko experiment will come into play. Nothing like another false sense of hope...

QB is also a BIG mental deal as well. He has in his mind he is having to worry for his life. He's becoming shell shocked and that isn't good for any QB. I don't think you should put any young QB back there because they won't learn and it'll be a very bad experiment for them and there future career. Lets hope Bree survives until SOME BODY in the front office realized they need to protect and block and get us a damn D line.

hagan714 09-29-2007 07:59 AM

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First off I will bring the shovel and a night light to dig up the awards if it help. Second Drew is no AB. Thank God. AB had a lot of problems here. Not only with his team on the field but off as well. The dude was on the outside looking in. Eupho is right. When haz took over the Saints he got a great OL. It took him less than 3 years to gut it. So AB is not to blame. Well not for all of it. I never thought he recovered from that shoulder injury.
As for Drew, he is hearing foot steps. They are real and not ghosts. Th OL can not handle a bull rush. I too have been saying it for years. Teams stack the box, stunt and blitz to their hearts desire. They know they can score on us so they got nothing to lose. Bush is running free out there. He is not getting the attention he did last year. Why because the defense knows it can out man our OL. Simple. Watch the LB and you can see it.

Euphoria 09-29-2007 01:20 PM

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EXACTYLY... The way to beat the Saints is out. You score a few times and take the Saints out of any run game and force them to pass... then you put pressure on the LINE and they fold.

billyh1026 09-29-2007 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 140315)
No O-line. However, even when he does have time to throw he's been throwing junk balls.
Drew threw a ball way too high for Deuce and now Deuce is out for the year.

I've been saying this type thing for the past few weeks. Everyone here keeps saying "O-line" "O-line" "O-line" "O-line". Then, when you mention Drew not not being accurate and needing to suck it up and figure out why he's 75% of the problem, people ask if you saw the same game they did or, they'll wanna sell you a bridge in a desert, etc etc. Truth is that as soon as Drew gets his accuracy back the O-line will magically be playing better.

Euphoria 09-29-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billyh1026 (Post 140650)
I've been saying this type thing for the past few weeks. Everyone here keeps saying "O-line" "O-line" "O-line" "O-line". Then, when you mention Drew not not being accurate and needing to suck it up and figure out why he's 75% of the problem, people ask if you saw the same game they did or, they'll wanna sell you a bridge in a desert, etc etc. Truth is that as soon as Drew gets his accuracy back the O-line will magically be playing better.

That isn't the truth... far from it. If you get a line he'll get the confidence and he'll make plays. You can't make plays if you are wondering if your horrible O-line is going to stop a 320 pound DT from flattening you ass. He is what you call Shell-shocked. You have to depend on your team-mates and they aren't getting it done.

Here is more proof... go and actually watch the games and cound how man seconds Brees has before he has to step up or make a move. He doesn't have much time to even set his feet before he has to worry about running or dodging someone. Buy him sometime and he'll come around and WR will get open.

LordOfEntropy 09-29-2007 06:43 PM

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I knew the O Line was in trouble before the season started. Why? Because I heard an announcer going on about what a great O Line New Orleans has.

I knew it was over as soon as I heard that.

CheramieIII 09-30-2007 09:52 AM

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There is something wrong with Brees and we all know it. When he attempts a downfield pass (more than 15 yards) they look very very weak. One of the longer passes he completed (against the Titans) was a lame duck and he's glad it wasn't intercepted. I don't care what you guys say about the blocking there is something wrong with him. He doesn't look like the leader of last year.

BIGEASY504 09-30-2007 03:28 PM

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Until our O-line get's it together Brees will remain shook!!!


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