Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich?

Euphoria · 10-02-2007, 07:40 PM

When its all said and done it doesn't matter wtf your stats are... all that matters is wins. Do they equate to wins??? 10-9 regular sesaon record and dropping.

LivnaLieTimay · 10-03-2007, 01:46 PM

Euph, I understand that you believe Reggie was the wrong pick for us and we should have gone for DaBrick and built up our o-line. Well, living up here in NY and having to suffer through jets and giants games every week let me tell you, if you think Reggie has struggled, watch a jets game. DaBrick is HORRIBLE, most Jets fans want him on the bench. The guy is always getting beat, has no clue what is going on and is a lot closer to Mandarich than Reggie ever will. The only reason he's still starting on their o-line is because of the money he is making.

So, if we would have gone for DaBrick, we'd be having the same conversation now about building up the o-line only we'd be without Reggie. It is way too early to be calling Reggie a bust. Give him time, I have a feeling that being the go to guy now, he is going to explode. Yes the o-line has struggled and there's nothing Reggie can do about that, but DaBrick wouldn't have done anything to make out o-line better, trust me.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

Euph, I understand that you believe Reggie was the wrong pick for us and we should have gone for DaBrick and built up our o-line. Well, living up here in NY and having to suffer through jets and giants games every week let me tell you, if you think Reggie has struggled, watch a jets game. DaBrick is HORRIBLE, most Jets fans want him on the bench. The guy is always getting beat, has no clue what is going on and is a lot closer to Mandarich than Reggie ever will. The only reason he's still starting on their o-line is because of the money he is making.

So, if we would have gone for DaBrick, we'd be having the same conversation now about building up the o-line only we'd be without Reggie. It is way too early to be calling Reggie a bust. Give him time, I have a feeling that being the go to guy now, he is going to explode. Yes the o-line has struggled and there's nothing Reggie can do about that, but DaBrick wouldn't have done anything to make out o-line better, trust me.

See if you want to put words in my mouth then at least get them half right! I NEVER called Reggie a bust nor even hinted he was going to be a bust. I know its way to early but if we want to make him a bust keep him in a Saints uniform and behind our OLine and he will turn out to be a bust. I am sick and tired of you people putting words in my mouth.

One person on the Oline isn't going to make that much of a difference either. You need so spend 2-3 years building the line with the top quality young players and letting them develop and get familiar with one another to have that trust factor going as well.

If Fergeson was so horrible how come the Jets Offense looks far better than ours and they don't have Reggie... yeah ok. Pennington looks like a Pro-bowler compared to Brees. Yeah there Oline isn't doing the job. GET OUT OF HERE. ...and just wait until they get going in another year or two you come talk to me then.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

We all have to remember this. None of us thought we had to address the O Line at all when the draft was upon us. We had a young, all pro LT in J.Brown and a fairly young, finally panning out Stinchcomb. There was really no logic in drafting an O lineman in the first round. A crystal ball would have been handy. That's the only way we could have foreseen such ugly o line play this season.

NEGATIVE... I said it! I shouted it then... Mangold/Fergeson. Yeah there was some, not many but some. I think its funny everyone/majority of people were all excited and got there panties wet about Reggie not going one. But I was still eyeing trading down or taking a TOP lineman.

Budsdrinker · 10-03-2007, 02:26 PM

To all of you out there, I think you need to remember what Scott Fujita said last week.
The only member of this team playing up to his ability right now is Steve Weatherford the punter. Unless the entire team wakes up and plays on the level they are capable of this will be one long season and every reporter will let us have it because that is what they do best, write crap.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

To all of you out there, I think you need to remember what Scott Fujita said last week.
The only member of this team playing up to his ability right now is Steve Weatherford the punter. Unless the entire team wakes up and plays on the level they are capable of this will be one long season and every reporter will let us have it because that is what they do best, write crap.

You can call it crap... but if you walk like a duck, talk like a duck and smell like a duck you are a duck.

Week in and week out if they stip onto the field it should be the reporters writing crap it should be us the fans giving them just what they give us... crap.

WhoDat205 · 10-03-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Reggie has brought a star quality to this team and city which it DESPERATELY needed. I don't know why everyone is so against this kid? Am I missing something or did he not score two td's last week?

Reggie was the right pick unless you want to be a San Antonio or LA Saints fan. He's probably the sole reason NO was able to renew the contract with Benson. Do you think D'Brick would have essentially sold the Dome out by himself? The team is freakin' 3-0 and they are still running all of those reggie/saints commercials in the national games.

FrenzyFan · 10-03-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

...I don't know why everyone is so against this kid? Am I missing something or did he not score two td's last week? ...

Not "everyone" is against this pick. Many of us (perhaps even MOST) feel that Reggie is a rare talent that absolutely could not be passed up at the second pick. The number that think picking Reggie was a mistake is very small. And so that I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, it is my interpretation (from the dictionary):

Mistake:
noun
1. an error in action, calculation, opinion, or judgment caused by poor reasoning, carelessness, insufficient knowledge, etc.
2. a misunderstanding or misconception.
–verb (used with object)
3. to regard or identify wrongly as something or someone else: I mistook him for the mayor.
4. to understand, interpret, or evaluate wrongly; misunderstand; misinterpret.
–verb (used without object)
5. to be in error.

therefore, if someone says that we selected the "wrong" guy for our team, I would opine that they are saying we were "in error", or have committed "an error in action, calculation, opinion, judgement...et al." - i.e. they think it was a mistake to draft Reggie.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Reggie was the right pick unless you want to be a San Antonio or LA Saints fan. He's probably the sole reason NO was able to renew the contract with Benson. Do you think D'Brick would have essentially sold the Dome out by himself? The team is freakin' 3-0 and they are still running all of those reggie/saints commercials in the national games.

Sure... quick fix. No problem. 0-3 and its not looking any brighter. I can't argue that point. So now do we build a football team finally.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 04:55 PM

I DON'T care if he scores 2 TD's you can tune in and watch him do that every week if you like but as we rack up numbers in the lost column I am not ok with that!!!!

0-3 and 10-9 in regular season so for.

10-02-2007, 07:40 PM	#31
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10-03-2007, 01:46 PM	#32
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Euph, I understand that you believe Reggie was the wrong pick for us and we should have gone for DaBrick and built up our o-line. Well, living up here in NY and having to suffer through jets and giants games every week let me tell you, if you think Reggie has struggled, watch a jets game. DaBrick is HORRIBLE, most Jets fans want him on the bench. The guy is always getting beat, has no clue what is going on and is a lot closer to Mandarich than Reggie ever will. The only reason he's still starting on their o-line is because of the money he is making. So, if we would have gone for DaBrick, we'd be having the same conversation now about building up the o-line only we'd be without Reggie. It is way too early to be calling Reggie a bust. Give him time, I have a feeling that being the go to guy now, he is going to explode. Yes the o-line has struggled and there's nothing Reggie can do about that, but DaBrick wouldn't have done anything to make out o-line better, trust me.

10-03-2007, 02:01 PM	#33
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay Euph, I understand that you believe Reggie was the wrong pick for us and we should have gone for DaBrick and built up our o-line. Well, living up here in NY and having to suffer through jets and giants games every week let me tell you, if you think Reggie has struggled, watch a jets game. DaBrick is HORRIBLE, most Jets fans want him on the bench. The guy is always getting beat, has no clue what is going on and is a lot closer to Mandarich than Reggie ever will. The only reason he's still starting on their o-line is because of the money he is making. So, if we would have gone for DaBrick, we'd be having the same conversation now about building up the o-line only we'd be without Reggie. It is way too early to be calling Reggie a bust. Give him time, I have a feeling that being the go to guy now, he is going to explode. Yes the o-line has struggled and there's nothing Reggie can do about that, but DaBrick wouldn't have done anything to make out o-line better, trust me. See if you want to put words in my mouth then at least get them half right! I NEVER called Reggie a bust nor even hinted he was going to be a bust. I know its way to early but if we want to make him a bust keep him in a Saints uniform and behind our OLine and he will turn out to be a bust. I am sick and tired of you people putting words in my mouth. One person on the Oline isn't going to make that much of a difference either. You need so spend 2-3 years building the line with the top quality young players and letting them develop and get familiar with one another to have that trust factor going as well. If Fergeson was so horrible how come the Jets Offense looks far better than ours and they don't have Reggie... yeah ok. Pennington looks like a Pro-bowler compared to Brees. Yeah there Oline isn't doing the job. GET OUT OF HERE. ...and just wait until they get going in another year or two you come talk to me then.

10-03-2007, 02:05 PM	#34
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by saintsmissile We all have to remember this. None of us thought we had to address the O Line at all when the draft was upon us. We had a young, all pro LT in J.Brown and a fairly young, finally panning out Stinchcomb. There was really no logic in drafting an O lineman in the first round. A crystal ball would have been handy. That's the only way we could have foreseen such ugly o line play this season. NEGATIVE... I said it! I shouted it then... Mangold/Fergeson. Yeah there was some, not many but some. I think its funny everyone/majority of people were all excited and got there panties wet about Reggie not going one. But I was still eyeing trading down or taking a TOP lineman.

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10-03-2007, 02:37 PM	#36
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker To all of you out there, I think you need to remember what Scott Fujita said last week. The only member of this team playing up to his ability right now is Steve Weatherford the punter. Unless the entire team wakes up and plays on the level they are capable of this will be one long season and every reporter will let us have it because that is what they do best, write crap. You can call it crap... but if you walk like a duck, talk like a duck and smell like a duck you are a duck. Week in and week out if they stip onto the field it should be the reporters writing crap it should be us the fans giving them just what they give us... crap.

10-03-2007, 02:58 PM	#37
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by saintsmissile Reggie has brought a star quality to this team and city which it DESPERATELY needed. I don't know why everyone is so against this kid? Am I missing something or did he not score two td's last week? Reggie was the right pick unless you want to be a San Antonio or LA Saints fan. He's probably the sole reason NO was able to renew the contract with Benson. Do you think D'Brick would have essentially sold the Dome out by himself? The team is freakin' 3-0 and they are still running all of those reggie/saints commercials in the national games.

10-03-2007, 04:29 PM	#38
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by saintsmissile ...I don't know why everyone is so against this kid? Am I missing something or did he not score two td's last week? ... Not "everyone" is against this pick. Many of us (perhaps even MOST) feel that Reggie is a rare talent that absolutely could not be passed up at the second pick. The number that think picking Reggie was a mistake is very small. And so that I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, it is my interpretation (from the dictionary): Mistake: noun 1. an error in action, calculation, opinion, or judgment caused by poor reasoning, carelessness, insufficient knowledge, etc. 2. a misunderstanding or misconception. –verb (used with object) 3. to regard or identify wrongly as something or someone else: I mistook him for the mayor. 4. to understand, interpret, or evaluate wrongly; misunderstand; misinterpret. –verb (used without object) 5. to be in error. therefore, if someone says that we selected the "wrong" guy for our team, I would opine that they are saying we were "in error", or have committed "an error in action, calculation, opinion, judgement...et al." - i.e. they think it was a mistake to draft Reggie.
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10-03-2007, 04:51 PM	#39
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Reggie was the right pick unless you want to be a San Antonio or LA Saints fan. He's probably the sole reason NO was able to renew the contract with Benson. Do you think D'Brick would have essentially sold the Dome out by himself? The team is freakin' 3-0 and they are still running all of those reggie/saints commercials in the national games. Sure... quick fix. No problem. 0-3 and its not looking any brighter. I can't argue that point. So now do we build a football team finally.

10-03-2007, 04:55 PM	#40
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? I DON'T care if he scores 2 TD's you can tune in and watch him do that every week if you like but as we rack up numbers in the lost column I am not ok with that!!!! 0-3 and 10-9 in regular season so for.