The Draft

Euphoria · 10-02-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Although I was tempted to vote for LB or OT (especially with Jake Long), I cast my vote for Defensive Tackle. Why? Well, the first reason is because of Glenn Dorsey. Second, because it's been a position that this franchise has flat out ignored for about a decade. Third, because previous posters are absolutely right, we need a push up the middle as well as from the edges. You can't have two crap defensive tackles (which Hollis and our street free agents are playing like) and expect to control the line of scrimmage. Put GD in there and see how much it frees up Will Smith and Charles Grant. Also, we can't stop the f***ing run up the middle. It's embarrassing and perhaps the most frustrating thing to watch when LenDale "My Coach Calls me Fat" White is pounding it all over you because you don't have anybody in the middle who can stop him. Think about it: Glenn Dorsey, Will Smith, Charles Grant, Hollis Thompson. Woooooo. That's a line that can dominate the trenches, don't you think?

I think you are right. We need a DT that will draw double teams, if they don't double team our DT our DE will have a better edge -one on one. Not they seem to be drawing a lot of double teams themselves. With Dorsey I'd say give the DE another shot next year or trade them to get some baddly needed help else where.

papz · 10-02-2007, 05:47 PM

I have no clue what our biggest need is. I rather wait until after the season plays out and see who's out there in free agency.

hagan714 · 10-02-2007, 09:24 PM

the defense has been ignored in the draft as we all know. But if there is a stud OL prospect take him. FINISH the building please so we can move on. Please tell me we are close to done with offensive dominance in the draft.

WhoDatQB · 10-02-2007, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Negative, ghostrider. Get real man. We have ZERO sacks from our DE position. ZERO! So I guess when M.Strahan had all those sacks he had two all pro DT's on the team? Nada. Fact is, Grant and Smith are as much to blame as anyone. PERIOD! If I remember correctly, the only defensive lineman to actually play well was Thomas and Young. For the most part, they held a very good running Tenn team in check. You're barkin' up the wrong tree here.

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Staying in your lanes is different from getting push. You can play the run good and not get any push. If you do not get push your DE's will not get to the QB. I am not agreeing with the above poster, but if your QB can just step to avoid them because of a lack of interior push you will never get a sack. Look back at the Titans game, Drew could never just step up, Haynesworth had an amazing push just about every play. Just because we perform well against the run does not mean our DT's are playing well and our DE's are playing bad.

View Poll Results: Which is the biggest position of need?
Corner	6	28.57%
Safety	1	4.76%
Line Backer	5	23.81%
DT	4	19.05%
DE	0	0%
O Line	5	23.81%
WR	0	0%
QB	0	0%
RB	0	0%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

10-02-2007, 06:46 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The Draft Originally Posted by TheDeuce Although I was tempted to vote for LB or OT (especially with Jake Long), I cast my vote for Defensive Tackle. Why? Well, the first reason is because of Glenn Dorsey. Second, because it's been a position that this franchise has flat out ignored for about a decade. Third, because previous posters are absolutely right, we need a push up the middle as well as from the edges. You can't have two crap defensive tackles (which Hollis and our street free agents are playing like) and expect to control the line of scrimmage. Put GD in there and see how much it frees up Will Smith and Charles Grant. Also, we can't stop the f***ing run up the middle. It's embarrassing and perhaps the most frustrating thing to watch when LenDale "My Coach Calls me Fat" White is pounding it all over you because you don't have anybody in the middle who can stop him. Think about it: Glenn Dorsey, Will Smith, Charles Grant, Hollis Thompson. Woooooo. That's a line that can dominate the trenches, don't you think? I think you are right. We need a DT that will draw double teams, if they don't double team our DT our DE will have a better edge -one on one. Not they seem to be drawing a lot of double teams themselves. With Dorsey I'd say give the DE another shot next year or trade them to get some baddly needed help else where.

10-02-2007, 05:47 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: The Draft I have no clue what our biggest need is. I rather wait until after the season plays out and see who's out there in free agency.

10-02-2007, 09:24 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Draft the defense has been ignored in the draft as we all know. But if there is a stud OL prospect take him. FINISH the building please so we can move on. Please tell me we are close to done with offensive dominance in the draft.

10-02-2007, 01:42 PM	#4
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: The Draft Originally Posted by saintsmissile Negative, ghostrider. Get real man. We have ZERO sacks from our DE position. ZERO! So I guess when M.Strahan had all those sacks he had two all pro DT's on the team? Nada. Fact is, Grant and Smith are as much to blame as anyone. PERIOD! If I remember correctly, the only defensive lineman to actually play well was Thomas and Young. For the most part, they held a very good running Tenn team in check. You're barkin' up the wrong tree here. ==== Staying in your lanes is different from getting push. You can play the run good and not get any push. If you do not get push your DE's will not get to the QB. I am not agreeing with the above poster, but if your QB can just step to avoid them because of a lack of interior push you will never get a sack. Look back at the Titans game, Drew could never just step up, Haynesworth had an amazing push just about every play. Just because we perform well against the run does not mean our DT's are playing well and our DE's are playing bad.