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frankeefrank 10-07-2007 03:29 PM

Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Let me first say,
I watched the game in a bar without sound.



How could Payton call out Brown for a penalty which should have been a no call,
Then three plays later on third and goal from the 15 call for a 5 yard pass play?

Payton has lost me, I wonder about the team.
This loss was not on the personnel.

Payton needs to relinquish the play calling.

FrenzyFan 10-07-2007 03:32 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Agreed, especially when Devery Henderson can't catch a cold. Brown get's called for a total BS call that had NOTHING to do with the play. Hell, Stinchcomb was lined up further back than Brown. Coach pulls him from the lineup and it sends the wrong message.

Bad coaching again.

JOESAM2002 10-07-2007 03:39 PM

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The reason Brown was called on that play was he was warned 5 plays before about lineing up wrong. So they flagged him. Can't blame the refs on that one. He should know better. I even thought it was a rinky-dink call but if you're warned, hey, you better listen. Lack of attention is killing this team.

frankeefrank 10-07-2007 03:42 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
He was warned???

I don't buy that.

winmill1 10-07-2007 03:42 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
yes, attention to detail is the killer. it was a call that was well trivial. but he was warned and payton knew he was warned. i would have benched him for a few as well. five plays earlier he was warned. attention to detail.

WVSaint 10-07-2007 03:44 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Hey, if you had sound you would've heard he was warned prior to getting flagged. BS call or not, he shouldn't have been where he was.

frankeefrank 10-07-2007 03:47 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
B/S call
Especially on a TD.

I work in baseball and this call equates to an umpire calling a strike on a guy for leaving the batter's box

Bush league.
And payton should know that.
BTW,
Why then call a screen pass to the side you just replaced your Pro Bowl OT?
Payton I am benching you

hagan714 10-07-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Brown should have had company ridding the bench. Henderson comes to mind as the first

JOESAM2002 10-07-2007 03:53 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 141300)
He was warned???

I don't buy that.

Oh,well. To bad. That's what happened.

saintsfan1976 10-07-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 141300)
He was warned???

I don't buy that.

They asked the refs at halftime and yes, he was warned. Still a ticky tack call, but in no way does it excuse the Saints performance.

winmill1 10-07-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Devery definitely should have been riding the bench with Brown and they should have grabbed Copper and Simoneau with them. Simoneau had a pick thrown at his hands and a fumble he let get stolen from him.

Turbo Saint 10-07-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
mare should be cut...he should turn in his cleats.

MatthewT 10-07-2007 04:09 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Time for Devery to be deactivated. There is no way he is back with the team next season. It's amazing how a team that gets to the NFC Championship game now looks like a team that needs a total rebuild.

I thought the call again Brown was rather lame, but I actually agree with the decision to yank him for a few plays. Payton needs to do this more often, including doing this to Brees when he gets into a funk.

Donuts32 10-07-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Sean Payton must be smoking some serious weed. J.Brown was on the sidelines. Refs are against Saints. Calling bad . Who thinks the good players might want out of their contracts next year. Lets get Marty Schottenheimer he a pretty good coach. Our if DeAngelo Hall leaves Atl we should get him.

Euphoria 10-07-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
just think we got rid of Stallworth.

AllSaints 10-07-2007 09:13 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Donuts32 (Post 141423)
Sean Payton must be smoking some serious weed. J.Brown was on the sidelines. Refs are against Saints. Calling bad . Who thinks the good players might want out of their contracts next year. Lets get Marty Schottenheimer he a pretty good coach. Our if DeAngelo Hall leaves Atl we should get him.

and your talking about payton smoking weed man your ignorant....... I liked what Payton did to Brown he was warned and he still lined up that far behind the line..... and the refs calling bad.... the refs pretty much let the saints march down the feild on penalties called on the panthers and saints do nothing..........

darstep 10-07-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Throwing J. Brown under the bus
 
Sean's use, our lack of use of Mike Karney amazes me - no disgusts me. Feels just like it does when Duece only got 8-9 carries. Hmmm...we lost then too. If we never establish a running game, we will never get out of this funk. Brees will continue to struggle until it changes. Attention to detail is the problem. I think that Sean has toooooooooo many details, too many schemes, too many sets, too many pages in his face. He can't seem to see that it is 3rd and 10 and not 2nd and 3. I can't even count the number of completions for less than 5 yards. Two weeks ago I saw Bush lose a yard on a one yard forward pass. Why even waist a good pass play on that. I can't even say whether its Sean's call or if it just ends up that way at the end of Brees' option list. I think we should get back to basics. Football is simple: blocking, tackling, running, kicking, pitch and catch. Toss all of the cheat sheets, line up eleven, everybody take somebody, and go. I hate CUTE football. You end up 0-5 like that. I think Sean is down to a King and a few Pawns - CHECK!

Saintsfan4ever 10-08-2007 02:18 AM

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Darstep, all I can say is BAM! you nailed it. CUTE football, that totally nails it.


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