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lumm0x 10-11-2007 11:25 AM

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I agree. Brees has a quick release and is adept at reading defenses. Our o-line is not even giving him enough time to do either. God forbid Palko gets put in behind this turnstile fivesome.

I would love to see us develop Palko underneath Brees. I think he is just the person to groom leadership and professionalism in a young player.

This team needs to gut out some wins with it's starters and find a stride and build upon it. We don't need to be writing off the season at this point.

papz 10-11-2007 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 142034)
The problem with Bree's Kinks has to do with the offensive line. They haven't given him the confidence to get back there and take the time he needs to make the proper steps during his dropping back and go through the proper progression.

True... but even when he has time, he's still throwing behind receivers and his passes do not look crisp. You cannot solely blame the offensive line... Drew is to blame also.

Euphoria 10-11-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 142040)
True... but even when he has time, he's still throwing behind receivers and his passes do not look crisp. You cannot solely blame the offensive line... Drew is to blame also.

Once you get in your head its tough to get out. You lose confidence, you don't just gain it back over night... sometimes it takes a whole off-season to get it back. Basically the offensive line needs to prove to Brees they got his back. Hell, maybe a QB can never really get it out of there head in which case we are more F-ed.

Combat troops experiance shell-shock syndrom... not the same thing but its similar.

Euphoria 10-11-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 142038)
I agree. Brees has a quick release and is adept at reading defenses. Our o-line is not even giving him enough time to do either. God forbid Palko gets put in behind this turnstile fivesome.

I would love to see us develop Palko underneath Brees. I think he is just the person to groom leadership and professionalism in a young player.

This team needs to gut out some wins with it's starters and find a stride and build upon it. We don't need to be writing off the season at this point.

TOTALLY agree it would not be a good thing for Palko's development.

papz 10-11-2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 142042)
Once you get in your head its tough to get out. You lose confidence, you don't just gain it back over night... sometimes it takes a whole off-season to get it back. Basically the offensive line needs to prove to Brees they got his back. Hell, maybe a QB can never really get it out of there head in which case we are more F-ed.

Combat troops experiance shell-shock syndrom... not the same thing but its similar.

So basically Brees shares no part in the blame.

Using your logic, I realized why our Mare is so horrible. He doesn't have any confidence in the play of our offensive line. He's rushing his kicks because he's afraid it's going to get blocked. Poor Mare... I don't know everyone is blaming him. It's the line's fault he blows.

I don't know why I even bother. :confused:

Euphoria 10-11-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 142044)
So basically Brees shares no part in the blame.

Using your logic, I realized why our Mare is so horrible. He doesn't have any confidence in the play of our offensive line. He's rushing his kicks because he's afraid it's going to get blocked. Poor Mare... I don't know everyone is blaming him. It's the line's fault he blows.

I don't know why I even bother. :confused:

What are you getting at??? Where did I say he shares not part in the blame... I merely try to show what he maybe going through as a QB.

If you have a vendetta against Bree's for whatever reason thats your business but this O line is at fault for a lot of our problems, passing game, running game. We have the same problems when Brooks was at QB so don't give me crap that is solely on our QB because that is so not true.

Unless you fix the major flaw with the offense such as the O line. It won't matter who you have at QB they are going to be rushed, they won't have confidence to make their drops are progression and we won't be able to establish the run on anyone.

A great Offensive line will make up for weakness at QB or even RB... do I have to remind you that Grossman went to the SB??? Carr got a win againts us. Come one man wake up and smell the oline they stink.

DeadmaN 10-11-2007 02:06 PM

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Palco has been moved to the practice squad so it doesn't even matter at this point

Active roster...

New Orleans Saints - Roster

Practice squad roster...

New Orleans Saints - Practice Squad

Euphoria 10-11-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadmaN (Post 142050)
Palco has been moved to the practice squad so it doesn't even matter at this point

Active roster...

New Orleans Saints - Roster

Practice squad roster...

New Orleans Saints - Practice Squad


Its just a matter of signing him on the active roster no biggy but he's not ready nor should we even chance ruining a potential good QB in the future.

papz 10-11-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 142046)
What are you getting at??? Where did I say he shares not part in the blame... I merely try to show what he maybe going through as a QB.

You're certainly making enough excuses for him. You're deflecting blame off him onto the offensive line. He's a ProBowl quarterback, he needs to make adjustments. And when he has time, he needs to make his throws.

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If you have a vendetta against Bree's for whatever reason thats your business but this O line is at fault for a lot of our problems, passing game, running game. We have the same problems when Brooks was at QB so don't give me crap that is solely on our QB because that is so not true.
Vendetta? I love Drew Brees. I'm just smart enough to know everyone is to blame... not just the line. And if you could read and comprehend, nowhere am I putting blame solely on him... I don't even hint at it.

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True... but even when he has time, he's still throwing behind receivers and his passes do not look crisp. You cannot solely blame the offensive line... Drew is to blame also.
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Unless you fix the major flaw with the offense such as the O line. It won't matter who you have at QB they are going to be rushed, they won't have confidence to make their drops are progression and we won't be able to establish the run on anyone.
Seeing how games are won in the trenches, thanks Captain Obvious.

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A great Offensive line will make up for weakness at QB or even RB... do I have to remind you that Grossman went to the SB??? Carr got a win againts us.
I'll give you the Bears... but if you think the Panthers have a good oline, you need to get off whatever you're smoking.

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Come one man wake up and smell the oline they stink.
Never said they didn't. Don't know why you keep telling us that. I mean crap... every thread you're in, you surely make it known.

WillMacKenzie 10-11-2007 02:17 PM

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I'm sayin bring on Tyler Palko!!


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