Falcons at Saints > Keys To Success

saintsfan1976 · 10-18-2007, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

I think Atlanta is just the opponent we need to follow up on our first win. Leftwich, being limited in exposure to their playbook and personnel is in for a long day. He has less mobility than Harrington and they have some questions on their o-line. Dunn and Norwood scare me as we are notorious for giving up the odd huge play. Offensively I think we match up well in the short game. Hall is a good corner, even if I detest him, and Chris Houston showed some agressiveness in jamming against New York. All in all this is a very winnable game for us.

But what scares me....Reggie Bush. Why? The game against Seattle really showed that his runs are only effective for the most part when it is on a delay or misdirection blocking scheme. Near the end of the game when we needed to grind out the hard yards in definite run downs we couldn't even get a couple yards. We need to set the tempo by nailing a few passes and keep the defense from attacking the line in order for Reggie to break long runs. He goes down very easily when he can be touched but give him a little space and he makes people miss or simply runs away from them. I fear seeing us come out and fail to run the ball and go away with nothing in a series or two, get behind and then be unable to get stride offensively because we can't rush the ball and start forcing the pass.

Agree with the first part.

On Reggie though, IMO he's just now getting used to being the feature back. He may be too winded?? Think he'll be just fine.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-19-2007, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

"lumm0x - I share your same fears about Reggie Bush. It looked like he wore down again as the game progressed. The Saints do need to find a way to pound it in the 4th quarter. It will bite them in the butt eventually..."

Hey! I got a great idea. Let's use Pierre Thomas a little more. Get him involved in the offense.

BRILLIANT!

SFIAH

andersen · 10-19-2007, 08:54 AM

Our Deuce is gone. We need to find out if Pierre or Jamal can pound it or not. We have a pro-bowl caliper fullback. Use him.

mighty12 · 10-19-2007, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Near the end of the game when we needed to grind out the hard yards in definite run downs we couldn't even get a couple yards.

The thing with Reggie is he has the talent to go 80 yards a run. The problem is he can only do that when the defense expects pass first. Remember that he has been in a pass first program since High School, so it wasn't that he wore down, or the O-line didn't block well. Seatlle sold out on the run, and let us get the short passes in. It was Payton who continued to call Bush's and Stecker's number even though He knew Seatlle would be gunning for them. I want better playcalling.

darstep · 10-19-2007, 10:37 AM

Four yards per carry is a good play - a successful run. 2nd and 6 becomes wide open, and so does 3rd and 2. Three of those and we have a first down. Beautiful - in my eyes. It seems that Sean isn't satified with the slow grind. Its like sitting in slow traffic or being stuck behind grandma and can't get around her. He gets impatient and tries to "pass" in a no passing zone, putting Brees and his passengers in danger. Not every play has to make the highlight reel. We saw more of Mike Karney last week than we have since before to the NFC Champ game last year. He helped Reggie through some cracks, helped Brees' jersey stay clean, and was a significant part of the success that has been noticeably absent in previous performances. I hope Payton uses Karney's many talents again this week with Bush, Stecker, and Pierre Thomas.

10-18-2007, 11:56 PM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Falcons at Saints > Keys To Success Originally Posted by lumm0x I think Atlanta is just the opponent we need to follow up on our first win. Leftwich, being limited in exposure to their playbook and personnel is in for a long day. He has less mobility than Harrington and they have some questions on their o-line. Dunn and Norwood scare me as we are notorious for giving up the odd huge play. Offensively I think we match up well in the short game. Hall is a good corner, even if I detest him, and Chris Houston showed some agressiveness in jamming against New York. All in all this is a very winnable game for us. But what scares me....Reggie Bush. Why? The game against Seattle really showed that his runs are only effective for the most part when it is on a delay or misdirection blocking scheme. Near the end of the game when we needed to grind out the hard yards in definite run downs we couldn't even get a couple yards. We need to set the tempo by nailing a few passes and keep the defense from attacking the line in order for Reggie to break long runs. He goes down very easily when he can be touched but give him a little space and he makes people miss or simply runs away from them. I fear seeing us come out and fail to run the ball and go away with nothing in a series or two, get behind and then be unable to get stride offensively because we can't rush the ball and start forcing the pass. Agree with the first part. On Reggie though, IMO he's just now getting used to being the feature back. He may be too winded?? Think he'll be just fine.

10-19-2007, 07:21 AM	#12
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Falcons at Saints > Keys To Success Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 "lumm0x - I share your same fears about Reggie Bush. It looked like he wore down again as the game progressed. The Saints do need to find a way to pound it in the 4th quarter. It will bite them in the butt eventually..." Hey! I got a great idea. Let's use Pierre Thomas a little more. Get him involved in the offense. BRILLIANT! SFIAH

10-19-2007, 08:54 AM	#13
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Falcons at Saints > Keys To Success Our Deuce is gone. We need to find out if Pierre or Jamal can pound it or not. We have a pro-bowl caliper fullback. Use him.

10-19-2007, 09:09 AM	#14
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Falcons at Saints > Keys To Success Originally Posted by lumm0x Near the end of the game when we needed to grind out the hard yards in definite run downs we couldn't even get a couple yards. The thing with Reggie is he has the talent to go 80 yards a run. The problem is he can only do that when the defense expects pass first. Remember that he has been in a pass first program since High School, so it wasn't that he wore down, or the O-line didn't block well. Seatlle sold out on the run, and let us get the short passes in. It was Payton who continued to call Bush's and Stecker's number even though He knew Seatlle would be gunning for them. I want better playcalling.

10-19-2007, 10:37 AM	#15
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Falcons at Saints > Keys To Success Four yards per carry is a good play - a successful run. 2nd and 6 becomes wide open, and so does 3rd and 2. Three of those and we have a first down. Beautiful - in my eyes. It seems that Sean isn't satified with the slow grind. Its like sitting in slow traffic or being stuck behind grandma and can't get around her. He gets impatient and tries to "pass" in a no passing zone, putting Brees and his passengers in danger. Not every play has to make the highlight reel. We saw more of Mike Karney last week than we have since before to the NFC Champ game last year. He helped Reggie through some cracks, helped Brees' jersey stay clean, and was a significant part of the success that has been noticeably absent in previous performances. I hope Payton uses Karney's many talents again this week with Bush, Stecker, and Pierre Thomas.
	SaintSince67

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