Wow!!!

Euphoria · 10-25-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by cadilacin

Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover.

I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor.

But I do see your point.

...are they really Payton's kind of players?

They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide!

"Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol).

JOESAM2002 · 10-25-2007, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

...are they really Payton's kind of players?

They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide!

"Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol).

OK, now this is gonna hurt. Damn, I have to agree with you Euph, I think it's the style of defense too. Why they don't go to more of a zone befuddles me.

cadilacin,

Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world!

WhoDat205 · 10-26-2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world!

Randy didn't change. Remember when the Viks went 15-1? Did you ever hear anything out of Randy? Randy was playing for Art Shell in Oakland. That team had no hope of going anywhere that season. Al Davis knew it that's why he hire Art - as a bandaid. Randy wants to win.

Same goes for this ATL situation. After cutting Grady (7th on the team in tackles, first in tackles for loss), the Falcons have 3 reserve linemen. He kept Montavious Stanley - a Louisville boy - over his most productive DT. How does that make sense? The only explanation is that he's trying to tank the season. We should be crying foul on Petrino for intentionally losing, not Hall for calling him out on it.

10-25-2007, 10:48 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by cadilacin Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover. I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor. But I do see your point. ...are they really Payton's kind of players? They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide! "Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol).

10-25-2007, 11:58 PM	#2
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by Euphoria ...are they really Payton's kind of players? They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide! "Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol). OK, now this is gonna hurt. Damn, I have to agree with you Euph, I think it's the style of defense too. Why they don't go to more of a zone befuddles me. cadilacin, Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world!

10-26-2007, 08:32 AM	#3
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world! Randy didn't change. Remember when the Viks went 15-1? Did you ever hear anything out of Randy? Randy was playing for Art Shell in Oakland. That team had no hope of going anywhere that season. Al Davis knew it that's why he hire Art - as a bandaid. Randy wants to win. Same goes for this ATL situation. After cutting Grady (7th on the team in tackles, first in tackles for loss), the Falcons have 3 reserve linemen. He kept Montavious Stanley - a Louisville boy - over his most productive DT. How does that make sense? The only explanation is that he's trying to tank the season. We should be crying foul on Petrino for intentionally losing, not Hall for calling him out on it.
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