David Patten

Saintsfan4ever · 11-05-2007, 04:23 AM

Did you notice that 1st quarter catch by Patten where he broke a tackle and turned it up field for a big gain? ... well, we're lucky the Jags didn't review that play because Patten went down from tripping on his own feet and got up and spiked the ball before he was touched by a Jag. If you'll watch the highlights you'll see what I'm talking about.

I'm not throwing rocks at Patten, he played his butt off, but that was a bonehead mistake that he got away with.

hagan714 · 11-05-2007, 04:44 AM

LOL they are going to ride is butt all week about that one. I would love to be in the film room. Tripped himself and declared himself down. that is great. humble pie for the vet. I missed that one.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-05-2007, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

LOL they are going to ride is butt all week about that one. I would love to be in the film room. Tripped himself and declared himself down. that is great. humble pie for the vet. I missed that one.

I didn't. I was having a fit over that play. Patten needed to get up and continue running. He wasn't down by contact. I was certain that he had turned the ball over.

SFIAH

WhoDat205 · 11-05-2007, 09:14 AM

I agree that Patten was not down, but I wonder if the refs blew the wistle before he got up and spiked it.

papz · 11-05-2007, 09:17 AM

He still played a great game... we did get lucky on that call. I'm loving the 3 WR set with Colston, Patten, and Moore.

fhotard · 11-05-2007, 10:42 AM

He had a great game. But yes, that one play was a boneheaded move.

We got a lucky break on that one.

Euphoria · 11-05-2007, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

I agree that Patten was not down, but I wonder if the refs blew the wistle before he got up and spiked it.

I agree he's a vet he would have got up and gone... there must have been a whistle. I'll have to go back and look at the tape tonight.

Budsdrinker · 11-05-2007, 12:23 PM

Yes, I was worried about the Jags reviewing it. If the refs blew the whistle it couldn't be reviewed but the problem I still have is our inability to get up to the line and snap the ball to avoid a challenge. Brees did get us to the line but had to audible to get a play called giving the Jags plenty of time to challenge unless they knew it couldn't be challenged.

ScottyRo · 11-05-2007, 01:00 PM

I just watched this play a couple more times.

Patten was clearly touched by 3 or 4 defenders during the run. The last contact came about 5 yards before he hit the turf. Essentially he was pushed but didn't fall immediately and then fell trying to make a cut.

It is pretty clear that the whistle blew.

So I guess my question is: How long does a contact last? If a player gets touched by a defender and trips over his own feet 20 yards down field without being touched again, is he down?

WhoDat205 · 11-05-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

So I guess my question is: How long does a contact last? If a player gets touched by a defender and trips over his own feet 20 yards down field without being touched again, is he down?

I think they have to make a "football move", so if he was tripped, stumbled a couple of steps and fell, that would be down by contact, if he regained footing and made a cut (AKA Football Move) then fell, he's still live.

11-05-2007, 04:23 AM	#1
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	David Patten Did you notice that 1st quarter catch by Patten where he broke a tackle and turned it up field for a big gain? ... well, we're lucky the Jags didn't review that play because Patten went down from tripping on his own feet and got up and spiked the ball before he was touched by a Jag. If you'll watch the highlights you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm not throwing rocks at Patten, he played his butt off, but that was a bonehead mistake that he got away with.

11-05-2007, 04:44 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: David Patten LOL they are going to ride is butt all week about that one. I would love to be in the film room. Tripped himself and declared himself down. that is great. humble pie for the vet. I missed that one.

11-05-2007, 06:37 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: David Patten Originally Posted by hagan714 LOL they are going to ride is butt all week about that one. I would love to be in the film room. Tripped himself and declared himself down. that is great. humble pie for the vet. I missed that one. I didn't. I was having a fit over that play. Patten needed to get up and continue running. He wasn't down by contact. I was certain that he had turned the ball over. SFIAH

11-05-2007, 09:14 AM	#4
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: David Patten I agree that Patten was not down, but I wonder if the refs blew the wistle before he got up and spiked it.

11-05-2007, 09:17 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: David Patten He still played a great game... we did get lucky on that call. I'm loving the 3 WR set with Colston, Patten, and Moore.

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11-05-2007, 10:42 AM	#6
fhotard 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 263	Re: David Patten He had a great game. But yes, that one play was a boneheaded move. We got a lucky break on that one.

11-05-2007, 12:15 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: David Patten Originally Posted by WhoDat205 I agree that Patten was not down, but I wonder if the refs blew the wistle before he got up and spiked it. I agree he's a vet he would have got up and gone... there must have been a whistle. I'll have to go back and look at the tape tonight.

11-05-2007, 12:23 PM	#8
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: David Patten Yes, I was worried about the Jags reviewing it. If the refs blew the whistle it couldn't be reviewed but the problem I still have is our inability to get up to the line and snap the ball to avoid a challenge. Brees did get us to the line but had to audible to get a play called giving the Jags plenty of time to challenge unless they knew it couldn't be challenged.

11-05-2007, 01:00 PM	#9
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: David Patten I just watched this play a couple more times. Patten was clearly touched by 3 or 4 defenders during the run. The last contact came about 5 yards before he hit the turf. Essentially he was pushed but didn't fall immediately and then fell trying to make a cut. It is pretty clear that the whistle blew. So I guess my question is: How long does a contact last? If a player gets touched by a defender and trips over his own feet 20 yards down field without being touched again, is he down?

11-05-2007, 01:05 PM	#10
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: David Patten Originally Posted by ScottyRo So I guess my question is: How long does a contact last? If a player gets touched by a defender and trips over his own feet 20 yards down field without being touched again, is he down? I think they have to make a "football move", so if he was tripped, stumbled a couple of steps and fell, that would be down by contact, if he regained footing and made a cut (AKA Football Move) then fell, he's still live.