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QBREES9 11-08-2007 08:32 PM

Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker
 
Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker
Didn't see this posted yet. I know there had been some comments that some people saw Brees was a little irked about the booing before Mare even got on the field. Here's the article from this morning:

"Brees, who was jogging to the sidelines as the field goal unit set up, seemed annoyed by the boos and gestured to the crowd by waving both arms in an upward motion. "That's the dumbest thing ever," Brees said. "We're in a dome, great kicking conditions, but when the fans are booing you it's just echoing everywhere. I mean -- people -- support him. You want him to make it, right? Don't boo. Cheer."

http://www.beloblog.com/WWLTV_Blogs/...ask_for_b.html

I agree with Drew, but I personally don't boo any of our guys (I save my booing for the refs). When Mare goes out there I just close my eyes and cross my fingers and hope for the best. But that's just me.

hagan714 11-08-2007 08:52 PM

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I am glad to see Drew step up and back me here. Thanks Drew.

LongTimeFan 11-08-2007 09:41 PM

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Drew was 100% correct defending Mare, I understand booing, I've done it in the past but to boo Mare before the kick was uncalled for..
Remember when the fans booed Wade Wilson when he went down to the turf at the Dome?, I'll never forget that, it was embarrassing to all of us Saints fan, it looked really bad on our part for booing a hurt Saints player.
Anyone remember this way back then?
I'm in no way comparing the two but just want to know if any of you recall that day.
Most of you have I'm sure.

LTF

JOESAM2002 11-08-2007 09:43 PM

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I agree with Drew, it's hard to do anything when your fans are booing you. You certainly can't concentrate on the task at hand. On the other hand, if you can't hit your butt with both hands, booing or cheering ain't gonna help or hurt.

Cassady37 11-08-2007 10:23 PM

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Sorry, if the numb-nuts kicker had a history of hitting consistently for us, it would be a different story. But as of yet, he hasn't proven we can rely on him for the clutch kick. And Payton holding onto him when other kickers are out there that can at least give a fresh perspective, is infuriating. I read somewhere Payton said after he made that last field goal, "ok, we're good now." Ummmm....what, were there not two other field goals missed? Sorry, I was the one pulling for him to miss the third one so it would force a change. O-well, when he misses for us in a BIG game, I don't want to hear all the whining about how we should have made a change.

Dan the Man 11-08-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 145576)
Sorry, if the numb-nuts kicker had a history of hitting consistently for us, it would be a different story. But as of yet, he hasn't proven we can rely on him for the clutch kick. And Payton holding onto him when other kickers are out there that can at least give a fresh perspective, is infuriating. I read somewhere Payton said after he made that last field goal, "ok, we're good now." Ummmm....what, were there not two other field goals missed? Sorry, I was the one pulling for him to miss the third one so it would force a change. O-well, when he misses for us in a BIG game, I don't want to hear all the whining about how we should have made a change.

Nobody is saying that he doesn't suck as a kicker. We're just saying it's stupid to boo him before he even kicks the FG.

saintsrule 11-09-2007 01:52 AM

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I do not understand booing anyone.

hagan714 11-09-2007 05:27 AM

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Trust me he knows without being reminder what kind of kicker he is. I do not think he is that stupid. cheering him and encouraging him may get us a few extra field goals. Booing him will definitely work on his psyche the wrong way. It will cost us more FG in the long run. Remember kickers and punters are loners on a football team as it is. they are delicate creatures. lol I was not a kicker but I remember, they were the group way on the other side of the field when I played. 3 maybe 4 players at the most. Thats why punters do a lot of holding. They're the only ones there to help. loners. So why make that rift any bigger by booing. Last thing you want is to start the other players believing the fans. If that happens he is done for and we are in a world of trouble.

SapperSaint 11-09-2007 07:45 AM

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You all know my distaste for Mare. So, I just won't say nothing about this.

I do commend Drew for stepping up for his teammate. That's what a true leader does.

leilung 11-09-2007 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 145592)
Uh, that's great and all but the guy is 6 for 12. Booing is part of the game whether Drew likes it or not. To give up a draft pick and pay Mare what we are paying to get this type of production, well, booing should be the least of Drew's concerns.

True. But he's all you have. Why boo him? Especially at home? Drew's right and it is counter productive anyway you slice it.

You wanna boo someone, it should be directed at the GM for letting this go on for as long as it has. I mean, lets face it: down by 2, with 3 secs left on the clock, Mare ain't my go to guy!

EJAMM 11-09-2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 145592)
Uh, that's great and all but the guy is 6 for 12. Booing is part of the game whether Drew likes it or not. To give up a draft pick and pay Mare what we are paying to get this type of production, well, booing should be the least of Drew's concerns.


Maybe the Saints are not really paying for the current kicking production or rather lack of production. If his contract is performance based than Mare will see the lack of production in his paycheck. One can only hope, eh.

Budsdrinker 11-09-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 145576)
Sorry, if the numb-nuts kicker had a history of hitting consistently for us, it would be a different story. But as of yet, he hasn't proven we can rely on him for the clutch kick. And Payton holding onto him when other kickers are out there that can at least give a fresh perspective, is infuriating. I read somewhere Payton said after he made that last field goal, "ok, we're good now." Ummmm....what, were there not two other field goals missed? Sorry, I was the one pulling for him to miss the third one so it would force a change. O-well, when he misses for us in a BIG game, I don't want to hear all the whining about how we should have made a change.

The only thing I have to asked is what kickers out there are you referring to?
Gramatica? cut by Dallas for missing too many
Vanderjagt? also cut by Dallas for missing too many also missed a game winner against the Pats when playing for the Colts a couple of years ago.
All kickers go through this period. We had O'Brien because the 49'ers released him for missing too many. Than we got Carney because the Chargers cut him for missing too many.
The Texans have Kris Brown because the Steelers cut him some years ago for missing kicks. If you look at Morten Andersen's last year with the Saints he even missed more than he ever did before and then turned it around for the Falcons and rubbed our face in it. Just about all kickers go through this whether it's a problem with an unfamiliar holder or the kicker's mechanics it's just something they have to work out. Hopefully he can correct it quickly if not he won't be in a Saints uniform next year but like it or not we will be stuck with him the rest of the year so we might as well try to support him. Hopefully the offense will score more TD's and we don't have to worry about FG's.

exiled 11-09-2007 08:35 AM

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I've always thought NOLA fans had a higher degree of class. Booing the guy is wrong any way you look at it.

before he even walks out on the field?

I have heard that kicking is 30% confidence.

Maybe if all kickers go through this - he'll snapp out of it soon and he'll have had his turn at a slump.

We need every weapon we can get right now.

andersen 11-09-2007 08:55 AM

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Yeah, why don't we just starting booing him in pre-game warm ups. That's a big boost to his confidence. We are stuck with him (for now). It is our responsibility to take it on the chin this week and cheer this guy (untill he misses one).

JOESAM2002 11-09-2007 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 145600)
True. But he's all you have. Why boo him? Especially at home? Drew's right and it is counter productive anyway you slice it.

You wanna boo someone, it should be directed at the GM for letting this go on for as long as it has. I mean, lets face it: down by 2, with 3 secs left on the clock, Mare ain't my go to guy!

Agreed, on the booing of the GM but.......with everything else he's done lately, I'd sure enough hate to boo even him. Loomis, in my eyes has done a very good job in the last couple of years. I guess we could just stand up and give him a disclaimer before the boo. something like this.

Hey Micky, be aware that we are about to boo you. But we want you to know that we think you are doing a great job in all but one thing, so here we go...........BOOOOOOOOOOOO FOR SIGNING MARE! BOOOOOOOOO FOR SIGNING MARE! However yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh for everything else! LOL.

Sorry Lielung, I just had to have some fun with that one. I could just imagine the confusion in the dome if that happened. It would sound like a bunch of lawyers did it.;)

stockman311 11-09-2007 02:04 PM

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Good Lord. Is Mare that emotionally unstable that a little booing throws him off his game? Why not MAN UP, pop that ball through the uprights and give the old middle finger to the home crowd. Shut them up by PERFORMING.
What is he going to do come playoff time on another teams field when the boos are cascading with far more venom??? Probably piss himself and hook the ball into the cheerleaders on the sidelines would be my guess. Mare will kill us before this season is over. I'm telling you all this so you will be emotionally prepared. He is going to end our season and it's going to hurt all the more because we all saw it coming and the coaching staff did nothing to stop it.

phatoosdey 11-09-2007 11:40 PM

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for those who boo, i boo you
booooooooooo!

hagan714 11-10-2007 07:28 AM

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Booing effect everyone. The point is why make matters worse as the home team. Simple and to the point. Do not look at this to deep. Either you can try to help the guy or not. What kind of fan are you? that is the question I put to you.

JOESAM2002 11-10-2007 07:34 AM

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I just had a great idea. We could all stand up and do a silent boo. You know, stand up and just open your mouth, and instead of booing, pour some beer down your throat. See, that's why I get the BIG money around here. Man, I come up with some great ideas! If some of you guys could think of things like that, you too could be jet set members. LOL. LOL. Where in the world do I get this stuff?????? LOL:phat:

I need more coffee!

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-10-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by exiled (Post 145612)
I've always thought NOLA fans had a higher degree of class. Booing the guy is wrong any way you look at it.

before he even walks out on the field?

Correct me if I'm wrong. The fans booed Mare when he came out for his second kick. He had already missed one, right?

Booing comes from frustration. You're talking about a fan base that had become used to Carney being automatic for so many years.

Frankly if Mare doesn't want to be booed, then he needs to do his job. AFAIC the only kick he gets a pass on this year is the 54 yarder for Carolina near the end of the game. He was hurt. It was long. We really needed him to make it, but the odds were against him. But all the rest of them are problematic.

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I have heard that kicking is 30% confidence.

Maybe if all kickers go through this - he'll snapp out of it soon and he'll have had his turn at a slump.

We need every weapon we can get right now.
We need a kicker we can trust. How would you feel right now if the Saints needed a 48 yarder with no time left to win the game?

Not a real good feeling right now to me.

SFIAH

andersen 11-10-2007 09:17 AM

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[QUOTE=JOESAM2002;145794]I just had a great idea. We could all stand up and do a silent boo. You know, stand up and just open your mouth, and instead of booing, pour some beer down your throat.

At seven dollars a beer and several misses, that could be expensive and mind numbing.

JOESAM2002 11-10-2007 09:23 AM

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[quote=andersen;145820]
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Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 (Post 145794)
I just had a great idea. We could all stand up and do a silent boo. You know, stand up and just open your mouth, and instead of booing, pour some beer down your throat.

At seven dollars a beer and several misses, that could be expensive and mind numbing.

Yeah, but after a few, you wouldn't be thinking about Mare, it'd be the third Saintsation on the left! LOL

spkb25 11-10-2007 02:08 PM

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booing beofre the kick is attempted makes no sense. when he misses though feel free


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